The blade Shop

TheBladeShop has indicated that it has/had a problem and is willing to resolve.

Jim, has and had in your sentence are not interchangeable at all. This is what Eddie wrote,

I openly admitted when we had trouble last year (christmas 2006) and I also explained how we fixed it.

But he was not prepared to admit and to address that he has problems now. What he was prepared to do was say that there was one exception of one order that went wrong and beyond that he was just spouting a mass of excuses and obfuscations.

As I wrote earlier, if Eddie were wise he would admit recent problems and negative feedback and do something about them. Fortunately for Klaus that has already happened. But if Eddie is going to continue to only admit mistakes once they are shown to him and otherwise maintain that they are exceptions these mistakes will continue.

As far as the vehemence you have a very good point. I'll be very honest with you. I don't have a lot of respect for people who try and pull the wool, knowingly or unknowingly. When Eddie said that he wished he could contact the customer of December 4th he had many ways to do so if he had really wanted. That and the rest of his smug complacency was just too much.

If he's learned from this thread to take customer/forum feedback more seriously I have no axe at all to grind here and have no intention at all to harrass him.
 
And Eddie in the interests of full disclosure to you and to everybody else here on BF... let me tell you that I know what I am talking about. I am involved in running an online knife store

How do I order from you dovwcom ???
I am waiting to hear.
PM or email info ASAP ... please.......:thumbup:
 
How do I order from you dovwcom ???
I am waiting to hear.
PM or email info ASAP ... please.......:thumbup:

teacher, this account is an individual basic account I had/have on BF before we launched here in the Exchange area.

Eddie indicated earlier that he had discovered my other user name, dave_last and our website. Of course he did. A quick look at my posts as dovwcom shows that some of them were signed Dave Last. I never kept it a secret and when I deliberately disclosed my involvement in running a knife site, it wasn't rocket science for Eddie to figure the rest out...

To cut a long story short, I pm'd you from our business account... can't mix business with pleasure and have to keep BF rules...
 
Hey Klaus,
Just wanted to you know that we called and left you a message to call us back so we can get this taken care of for you. So when you get a chance, please call us a 877-291-1328.

Thanks,
Eddie
 
Hey Klaus,
Just wanted to you know that we called and left you a message to call us back so we can get this taken care of for you. So when you get a chance, please call us a 877-291-1328.

Thanks,
Eddie

Thanks Eddie,

I just called and talked to Will - I hope everything will work out,
I will update this thread as soon as something new happens.

Seems one knife was discontinued and this caused your system to stall

Best regards

Klaus
 
No problem.
I will follow up and make sure it ships out for you today, and once again, sorry for the trouble.

Eddie
 
Eddie, have you gone back and addressed the numerous complaints by on-line customers made to the Better Business Bureau?

There's a thread I can dig up here on BF, and according to the BBB, you won't even respond to their complaints...so why should we believe you? I'm one of the ones that got screwed over by your poor customer service. I haven't forgotten it, and anytime your "Store" is asked about, I helpfully offer my experiences with you. I think that if you want to remove the negative image you have here, a good place to start would be by owning up to the BBB and then take it from there.

With quality, service oriented e-tailers (and yes, they actually do have a fully stocked physical store) such as New Graham in VA and the Knifecenter in MD (and you really don't have their prices beat by that much), they will tell you right up front if an item is in stock. If not, they will give you their best estimate of when they expect it to be in stock. Then, they place your name on a waiting list and when the particular item comes in, you get a friendly email telling you that it's in, and if you want to place an order, please get in touch. They NEVER charge for something they don't have in stock, unlike...well...why bother. My granddaddy taught me to never try to teach a pig to sing. All it does is waste your time and annoy the pig.

Enjoy the reputation.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443023
 
SPX I appreciate your feedback, and I think its a good idea. I know that many of the BBB complaints have been resolved with the customer, just not on the BBB website. But I still need to check them all and follow up with the cusotmers to make sure that all of the troubles have been resolved.

I also wanted to state that Im not trying to make it sould as if we are perfect(because we are not) but we are always striving to get better. I also understand that once someone has been burned they will never forget. I believe that its members right to voice their opinions and experiences with us good or bad.

I also feel that many people think that once a business makes mistakes they should pack it up and close the doors instead of trying to correct and make things better. I will never stop trying to improve the way we run our busniess since I seriously doubt we will ever achive perfection.

Thanks again SPX for the constructive feedback.
 
I also feel that many people think that once a business makes mistakes they should pack it up and close the doors instead of trying to correct and make things better.

I believe that almost to a man and woman BF members would much prefer that a business with a history of problems resolve its issues satisfactorily rather than close its doors leaving its customers/victims in the lurch.

But the thing about BF members is that we won't buy into something just because you say it. We are going to keep you honest.

Eddie, you said that you are going to resolve the outstanding BBB issues. Good luck to you. And come back here when you're done and post here letting us know so that we can all check it out for ourselves.
 
dovwcom, your relentless attack on TheBladeShop leaves me wondering what they have done to get you so riled up. They have had problems that are not going to be completely fixed over night. Things seem to have improved greatly, and maybe in a few months they will be better still. What have they done that has made you decide to go after them so relentlessly?
 
Things seem to have improved greatly, and maybe in a few months they will be better still. What have they done that has made you decide to go after them so relentlessly?

Keith,
I am not sure on what basis you believe that things have improved so greatly. The fact that Eddie thinks or at least says so is hardly an objective indication. The relative lack of negative feedback here may well be more due to his reputation here scaring off BF members than anything else. The fact that he has very negative feedback on resellerratings is certainly not a positive indication.

But all of that is beside the point. The Blade Shop has had a longstanding problem with charging orders, not shipping them and lying about stock, shipping etc. All indications are that the problem is still here. Eddie's reaction, problem, what problem? I had a great Christmas season and our problems are a thing of the past. Negative feedback, customers being lied to, oh that was a single exception.

You may believe that Eddie should have been given a break. I don't. I believe that there has to be accountability. Eddie certainly was not ready to hold himself accountable and I am still convinced that there wouldn't have been any accountabilty at all if he hadn't been pushed and shoved into a corner.

But Keith I have a question for you. Why do you sympathize with people like Eddie who are getting rich with their thousands of bulk orders on the back of the little guy who has no recourse against him? Maybe it's time to sympathize with the little guy, with the guys on resellerratings and no doubt many others like Klaus for whom Eddie lost no sleep.

We at BF have a proud tradition of bringing arrogant merchants like Eddie to heel and I am proud to be a small part of that.
 
Keith there is no sense in talking to Dave Last, he puts words in people mouths and tries to prove points with nothing to back them up.

Dave, there are 2 feedbacks on resellerratings.com. I have never heard of the site until you mentioned it. So do you have anything else besides 1 negative feedback in the last year?

It seems to me that perhaps you, DAVE are jealous of us? We have a good business, we sell a lot of knives to a lot of good people at great prices.

Also, we dont lie to people about stock, shipping or anything else. I have more than admitted to making mistakes but I WONT sit here and listen to your sorry excuse for a business person call me or people in my company liars. Period. Do you have ANY PROOF that we have ever tried to intentionally trick or decieve anyone? If not, I would watch my mouth.

This is the last time I will respond to Dave Last. Dave, do you even sell any knives? Im just trying to figure out why you are so jealous of The Blade Shop.... Ohh I see, your business isnt making money. I know why you dont have any feedback, positive or negative, because you arent selling anything.

Once again, If there are any customers of mine that need anything from me, please let me know and I will respond, otherwise, im done with this thread.
 
Are you saying that things haven't improved? If so, how do you know that?

I don't sympathize with Eddie. If you read the previous threads about him you will see that I did not care for the way he was doing business. I just find it odd that you are going after him the way you are. It appears to me that you have a personal stake in this. There are lots of online knife dealers that have had every bit as many problems as TheBladeShop, but you have decided that this particular dealer deserves your personal attention. That gives me the impression that there is something more to this than meets the eye.
 
Keith can attest to this much at least, that last Christmas this thread would have been 6pages full of angry customers. Like I said, we are not where I want to be, but we are getting MUCH better.

This Christmas season we sold 38.2% more than last year and only had a few instances where we dropped the ball. Im proud of that. But I also know we still need to work, and thats what we are doing, and will continue to do.
 
Dave, there are 2 feedbacks on resellerratings.com. I have never heard of the site until you mentioned it. So do you have anything else besides 1 negative feedback in the last year?

I'm not sure what sort of math that is, Eddie. 2 "Very Dissatisfieds" on resellerratings does not equal 1. Add to those 2, Klaus' being charged and his order not shipping = 3 known cases, not one. But this is total silliness. When you have a history of orders being charged and not shipping you need to go out of your way to be sensitive to such instances and not dismiss them out of hand as exceptions and demand proof of more instances.

It seems to me that perhaps you, DAVE are jealous of us? Dave, do you even sell any knives? Im just trying to figure out why you are so jealous of The Blade Shop.... Ohh I see, your business isnt making money. I know why you dont have any feedback, positive or negative, because you arent selling anything.

This is real silliness. As you so astutely noticed yesterday I have another user name under which I sell (in case you didn't know, it's against BF rules to sell as a basic user), and the vast majority of our sales are direct through the store which is not eligible for feedback. But I am going to ignore your foolishness here because it is just another pathetic attempt to distract attention from your own problems.

Do you have ANY PROOF that we have ever tried to intentionally trick or decieve anyone?

It doesn't help the customer who was told four times that his order would ship the same day if your people were deliberately fooling themselves instead of deliberately fooling the customer. You'll have to do better than that.

Are you saying that things haven't improved? If so, how do you know that?

I am saying that since there is no way to know how much and to what degree things have improved, if Eddie had any sense at all he'd realize that he needs to go out of his way to show that things have improved by taking mistakes very seriously. He didn't do that here. If he is now it's a direct result of this thread.

It appears to me that you have a personal stake in this. There are lots of online knife dealers that have had every bit as many problems as TheBladeShop, but you have decided that this particular dealer deserves your personal attention. That gives me the impression that there is something more to this than meets the eye.

Keith, I have never had anything to do with Eddie before. I am not after Eddie's business, believe me, there's enough business for everyone. I have said here more than once that in my opinion Eddie's response crossed a red line. You want to disagree, I can respect your opinion. You want to say that the same thing could have been achieved in a gentler manner, I have to tell you that I am skeptical. But what I can tell you is that it is what it is, there are no conspiracy theories at work here.

Keith can attest to this much at least, that last Christmas this thread would have been 6pages full of angry customers.

This Christmas BF members got smart.

Like I said, we are not where I want to be, but we are getting MUCH better.

Eddie, I don't know how much better you are getting and how quickly, and neither does anyone else. Hopefully at least you do. The more you take the public seriously the better it will be for you. You don't have to close up, your sales don't have to go down, you just need to show that no matter how infrequent the mistake, you take each mistake seriously. That's the only way you'll be able to show that you really care.

You have said that you are done here, so am I. We have both said what we have to and BF members can read and decide for themselves.
 
Hello Klaus,
Your order did ship yeterday, our tracking system doesnt update until early morning. I am emailing you your tracking number.

Thanks,
Eddie
 
Thx much Eddie,

I just saw the email and the tracking number, all fine and thanks for taking care

Best regards

Klaus
 
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