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The Bonecutter Files

Discussion in 'Himalayan Imports' started by Bladite, Mar 18, 2008.

  1. Bladite

    Bladite ǝɹnsıǝן ɟo uɐɯǝןʇuǝb Moderator

    Feb 28, 2003
    LINKS to other Bonecutter posts/etc:
    Updated List:

    The Bone Cutter Files:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542155

    First for sale thread:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=548676

    Big W's Review:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549166

    HD's Review:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5533439

    HD's More Bonutter Pix
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=656674

    The Super-CAK Thread - The Almost Bone Cutter One Off:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=545016

    More Bonecutter pictures by IlBruche:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=551001

    The Bonecutter Files - 16 inch:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5565214

    Cult of the Bonecutter:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=570308

    Putting a Bonecutter to work:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=604873

    Review - The Bonecutter
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=662614

    2014-03-01
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...-warranty-and-quot-advertising-quot-pictures/

    2014-03-01
    The Super CAK and Boncutter:
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...necutter/page2?highlight=the+bonecutter+files

    2014-03-01
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...cutter-Picture?highlight=the+bonecutter+files

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    Wellio kidz!

    Auntie Yangdu wrote me a note today saying that the prototype Sgt Khadka Bonecutter showed up at her place today. Wahoo. Between her, Rajeesh, and the good Sgt, HI seems to have made something unique :) Hopefully, it'll stay that way too!

    Shortly it shall be in my hands, where it will endure a photo shoot, testing, and other antics. Got the good dSLR and will make a nice photo album for Yangdu and a review to boot. Nifty stuff.

    Though, for your early warning benefit, here are some specs and photos. It turned out interesting. Thoughts please. I'm not sure if this is the final version, or if it will evolve, or if there will be other sizes, or WHAT! It's very exciting.

    The Specs straight from the computer shack in Reno:

    Overall length -- 20 inch
    Weight -- 34 oz
    Blade width -- 2.5''
    Walnut wood handle
    White metal fittings
    Black leather scabbard

    and now the original authentic pictures as taken by Yangdu today:


    I'm speechless. Lovely!
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    The Sgt's standard sheath, and look at that karda! A "sarge" knife almost!
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    Check out this handle. I've never seen anything like it. 4 pins!
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    Whoa! Bones. Look at those FULLERS. Whoa baby!!!
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    Well, what are you waiting for? POST! Like it? Want one? You know who to ask. Auntie! This one is NFS! moo hah hah.

    there will be more from me on this soon. Be sure of it.

    bladite
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2014
  2. cocomen69

    cocomen69

    723
    Nov 16, 2007
    WOW!!!:eek: That is a beauty. Yes, I want one! Who doesn't? :D
     
  3. HiramRanger

    HiramRanger

    456
    Mar 3, 2008
    I might be interested... a little big for my likings, but if it is unique... I like unique

    ETA... oh hell I need a Sarge. Yangdu darling, how much?
     
  4. WVHILLS

    WVHILLS Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 2, 2006
    Good Lord man! that is awesome:thumbup: I very much like it:) What is the primary difference between this and a standard 20 inch AK though? So I take it that this beast is a custom made to your specs?
     
  5. Bladite

    Bladite ǝɹnsıǝן ɟo uɐɯǝןʇuǝb Moderator

    Feb 28, 2003
    Well, I have a chiruwa 20 inch ang khola khadka (CAKK) that's pretty awesome.

    I WILL compare the two, but I believe this one has more pronounced and longer fuller, a longer handle; I suspect there's some spine differences... and it might be wishful thinking, but I think the bonecutter should be wider and more leaf shaped.

    We shall see huh?

    bladite
     
  6. CallsThunder

    CallsThunder

    617
    May 10, 2004
    I'd like to see it around 16 or 17 inches, but otherwise it's nice.
     
  7. Nesk

    Nesk

    11
    Nov 18, 2007
    I have kind of a weak spot for the rougher use khuks, all visable tang and made for heavier work. So I Like it, the overall lengths i prefer is about 14-18". So perhaps a bit to long for my personal taste, but overall impression is thumbs up! Unpolished blade and about 18" overall... then we are talking.
     
  8. ilbruche

    ilbruche

    Jun 19, 2007
    Looks great to me. I like the beefed up handle. The length to weight ratio seems right on to me. Looks perfect to me not too heavy and has gorgeous fullers to boot. :thumbup:

    I guess it ultimately would come down to how big the handle is. I don't have huge mitts so that is a concern for me.
     
  9. hollowdweller

    hollowdweller

    Sep 22, 2003
    If the intention was to reproduce the Bonecutter design that I have it doesn't even come close.:thumbdn:

    That just looks like a big Ang Khola stretched out.:rolleyes::p
     
  10. Cpl Punishment

    Cpl Punishment

    Jan 28, 2006
    Interesting. It's the right length.

    What did you want it to be? I'm not sure of the reasons behind the design. Please enlighten us.
     
  11. hollowdweller

    hollowdweller

    Sep 22, 2003
    Well the Bonecutter was a model put out by the now defunct GK Khukuris that in my opinion was superior in every way to most others.

    First the handles were not hugely oversize. Second they had no rings that dug into your hand. Third the bell on the end was big and did not dig into your hand like a lot of the HI models.
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    Also the bevel for the edge starts farther back, is more blunt tipped and the curve is more gradual
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  12. hollowdweller

    hollowdweller

    Sep 22, 2003
    The bottom one is a Bonecutter. Notice how much metal it has farther out the blade. Gives it a great chopping power. The bottom one is 16" and 25oz! The curve is much more like the YCS, but because of the handle they handle way better than a YCS
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    Here's the 3 sizes.

    16" 25 oz
    18" 27 oz
    20" 31oz
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  13. Fiddleback

    Fiddleback Knifemaker Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Oct 19, 2005
    Well I think its badass in its own right, but I agree with HD too, its a lot different than its inspiration.

    Pics of the Bonecutter and various other knifeage.

    R to L: Bonecutter, Dick Singer Samsher, FFBM, Sherp, and HI Bolo with FB handle.

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    R to L: Bolo, FFBM, Samsher, Sherp, Bonecutter

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    Spines L to R: Bolo, FFBM, Samsher, Sherp, Bonecutter (look at that Bonecutter, its almost as thick as my Bolo)

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    One more image just for fun. Can you see how wide the edge bevel is on the BC?? Its over 1" wide. Thats what makes this khuk penetrate so well. The only khuk I've owned that comes close is the HI Samsher. Which, IMHO, is HI's best model for chopping and for looks.

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  14. hollowdweller

    hollowdweller

    Sep 22, 2003
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  15. Mark Nelson

    Mark Nelson

    Feb 21, 2003
    While I like the looks of the HI Bonecutter, I must agree with Hollowdweller on this one. I have a 20" Bonecutter from GK Khukuris and the HI version does not look to be anywhere near the same. From a blade shape and handle standpoint. If the intent was to come up with something like the GK Bonecutter then it needs to be reworked. If the intent was to come up with another great HI chopper then the design hit spot on looking at the pics. Just my thoughts without having the two side by side.
     
  16. hollowdweller

    hollowdweller

    Sep 22, 2003
    Look also at the pics Andy and I posted.

    Most of us when chopping hold a khuk loosely with the front fingers and then tighter with the back finger so we can sort of snap it on impact and also to minimize the transmission of shock to the hand.

    The problem with a LOT of khuks is they have to make the handle super long or the pointed part of the butt cap digs into your palm. Yvsa used to actually bevel off that part.

    Another problem is that they make the handle so fat, especially at the bolster area that it is hard to hold it loosely up there.

    The Bonecutter has the ideal handle IMO because it is not so fat right at the bolster but then when you get to the swell at the butt rather than a "concave" curve to the butt the slope is more straight.

    What that does is give you a way wider butt area so your little fingers at the back you are gripping with don't slide off plus where it is not concave it forces you hand forward off the area of the butt that digs into your palm that most khuks have. The fact it has no butt cap helps too:thumbup:

    On most khuks I find my hand on chopping sliding farther and farther back till the butt cap is digging into my palm. But the slope and width of the swell of the handle on the Bonecutter prevents this.

    Sorry for talking it to death but I'm trying to describe something I'm not sure I can get across in words:D:rolleyes:;)
     
  17. Bladite

    Bladite ǝɹnsıǝן ɟo uɐɯǝןʇuǝb Moderator

    Feb 28, 2003

    Yes, the intent (for me) is to copy the Praj/GK-Bonecutter exactly. "Bonecutter" is more a name, than a function. "Ultimate Chopper" is the function :) So maybe the function is thre. The Form is key too.

    If possible, it would be really useful to get good pix of all the known bonecutters sitting on a 1x1 inch grid like a cutting mat, draw it yourself, etc, that way it can be more apparent how the shapes and lengths are. Weights too. I'll be taking such a picture a on a 1x1 green cutting mat.

    Do you know the weight of your 20 inch bonecutter? I don't have that data, just for 16 and 18:

    o Here is some data that I've been able to collect:
    Code:
    overall length : 18 inches
    weight         : 32 ounces
    spine          : 1/2 inch
    edge width     : VERY wide; 1 inch
    blade tip      : not pointed like samsher; blunt/rounded like old GRS
    blade          : one very long forged fuller/chirra
    cho            : right up against the bolster
    bolster        : standard, very flat; NOT habaki
    handle         : rat-tail or chiruwa?
    
    overall length : 16 inches
    spine          : 3/8 inch
    weight         : 27 ounces
    
    I'll know more when the THING comes in. It's a lovely looking beast. Kind of CAK meets Foxy Folly. I'd be leaning more towards rounded old-school GRS meets Foxy Folly with some Samsher thrown in.

    bladite
     
  18. ilbruche

    ilbruche

    Jun 19, 2007
    I agree if the attempt is to replicate the Bonecutter it is lacking in several areas. Blade shape being one but handle also.

    I don't have a BC to compare but I can offer my handle insights.

    This handle done by the Sarki shop for an M43 is ideal IMHO. The top of the bell is reduced and the handle has a nice contour.

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    My Gelbu Special for example had a WAY too thick handle. It protruded from the bolster significantly. I had to reshape it and actually make it slimmer than the bolster in order to fit my hand correctly.

    Here you can see it compared to my WW2 which has a perfect handle for me.

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    Here it is after the reduction.

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    The version produced does look like a modified AK. The curve just doesn't match the original.
     
  19. hollowdweller

    hollowdweller

    Sep 22, 2003
    If I could be assured that it could make it back to me I would send one of my 18" models to Yangdu
     
  20. Fiddleback

    Fiddleback Knifemaker Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Oct 19, 2005
    Mine is a rat tail tang peened over a keeper at the back of the handle.

    I agree with this statement wholeheartedly:

     

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