The Flea Market Mung Absolution Thread

This one is routinely ignored here. I'm not trying to single anyone out. I just want to clarify what is the right behavior for my own flea market posts.

Spark said:
You must wait 14 days (2 weeks) to relist an item for the second time. So once you list an item for sale, that item cannot appear for a second time in a sales thread until 2 weeks have passed from the date of the original thread.
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TripleT said:
This one is routinely ignored here. I'm not trying to single anyone out. I just want to clarify what is the right behavior for my own flea market posts.
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Yes, there are a few things that are harder to enforce because it's reliant on us self-policing it. It can't have the rules enforced by the software like the exchange does for who can start a thread, etc. Nor does it have a moderator really. It's just up to us to understand the rules and do the right thing.

Most of the time PMs or comments seem to resolve things.

Stuff that's blatantly against the rules that doesn't resolve on it's own can be reported to get a moderator to look into it. But hopefully that's not needed often.
 
While I'm on a soap box, I'll throw out this additional thought about the Flea Market. I'm not trying to single anyone out, just making a general comment and sharing my personal opinion.

While there's no rule for sellers prohibiting them from asking people to use Paypal Gift, buyers should be aware of rule #8 in the Buyer's Section:

8. Warning: You as a buyer are responsible for using Paypal as it was intended, according to their Terms of Service. Using the "Gift" option revokes any buyer protection you may have if something goes wrong and makes it easier to get scammed. Be smart and protect yourself, if you use gift and get scammed don't come crying to us about it as you've already been advised.
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Rather than asking the buyer to figure out a price (gift or +4% type of thing), I just include everything in the asking price. (btw - asking a buyer to explicitly cover the paypal fee is against the terms of service).

When buying knives, I'll typically pass on ones that ask for gift. Unless I REALLY want it, then I'll figure out the fee and buy it as goods anyway. I'm not going to give up my rights, even though I trust you guys.

I'll step off the soap box now.
 
thurin said:
While I'm on a soap box, I'll throw out this additional thought about the Flea Market. I'm not trying to single anyone out, just making a general comment and sharing my personal opinion.

While there's no rule for sellers prohibiting them from asking people to use Paypal Gift, buyers should be aware of rule #8 in the Buyer's Section:



Rather than asking the buyer to figure out a price (gift or +4% type of thing), I just include everything in the asking price. (btw - asking a buyer to explicitly cover the paypal fee is against the terms of service).

When buying knives, I'll typically pass on ones that ask for gift. Unless I REALLY want it, then I'll figure out the fee and buy it as goods anyway. I'm not going to give up my rights, even though I trust you guys.

I'll step off the soap box now.
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Nice soap box. You taught me something thanks Bro
 
Waiting to see how long the Apache Hunter lasts. If I didn't have one coming it would be gone
 
Went back to the photoset for kicks. I put another picture up in the original thread.
 
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Will somebody please buy Sky's Camp Knife in the market??! $395.00 for a bolstered Camp :eek: I'm getting ready to sell of the dog and my wife's cat together for the funds but then I can't afford a lawyer.
 
MajorD said:
Will somebody please buy Sky's Camp Knife in the market??! $395.00 for a bolstered Camp :eek: I'm getting ready to sell of the dog and my wife's cat together for the funds but then I can't afford a lawyer.
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My wife is a Paralegal lol I'm sure I can get U an atty lol!

I'll take the dog just send it in the package lol
 
Scotcha said:
I would like to add a quick note as I have received a few comments - I don't make any profit on any of the knives I have sold on the Flea Market. My asking price is always lower than what I paid. On top of that I don't include the shipping that I have paid to Australia and my shipping costs while calculating the cost of the knife. Just wanted to clarify.
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Scotcha, we have always dealt fairly with each other. I imagine you take quite a hit on shipping. It cost me nearly $70 to get a knife out of country once. Sometimes less, sometimes more. But there is no shame in making a few bucks on solid pieces, and I have at times made a premium on select Fiddleback knives. The idea that the flea market should be a deal or that sellers should act out of altruism is in error. Nice knives often go up and value, and the total cost is what the buyer will pay or what the seller thinks its fair. Not to mention that your time is worth money. If the price is too expensive for a buyer then they have the option to walk away. I am sorry you have had comments that imply that your knives are not prices fairly.
 
TripleT said:
Scotcha, we have always dealt fairly with each other. I imagine you take quite a hit on shipping. It cost me nearly $70 to get a knife out of country once. Sometimes less, sometimes more. But there is no shame in making a few bucks on solid pieces, and I have at times made a premium on select Fiddleback knives. The idea that the flea market should be a deal or that sellers should act out of altruism is in error. Nice knives often go up and value, and the total cost is what the buyer will pay or what the seller thinks its fair. Not to mention that your time is worth money. If the price is too expensive for a buyer then they have the option to walk away. I am sorry you have had comments that imply that your knives are not prices fairly.
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Scotcha, I'm sorry you've had to deal with questions about your pricing. I'll echo what TripleT said. Expecting Flea Market knives to be priced as a "deal" is unrealistic. The prices should be what the market will bear. Price things how you want.

I have some Fiddlebacks that would be listed at over double the standard pricing if not more. Because that's what they're worth based on offers I get weekly. I have others that I know will only sell at a discount.

If a buyer doesn't like the price, they don't have to pay. Or they can make a reasonable offer. Lowballers and jerks should be ignored.
 
TripleT said:
Scotcha, we have always dealt fairly with each other. I imagine you take quite a hit on shipping. It cost me nearly $70 to get a knife out of country once. Sometimes less, sometimes more. But there is no shame in making a few bucks on solid pieces, and I have at times made a premium on select Fiddleback knives. The idea that the flea market should be a deal or that sellers should act out of altruism is in error. Nice knives often go up and value, and the total cost is what the buyer will pay or what the seller thinks its fair. Not to mention that your time is worth money. If the price is too expensive for a buyer then they have the option to walk away. I am sorry you have had comments that imply that your knives are not prices fairly.
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Thanks TripleT. You have been more than fair in our dealings. I really like FB's and would rather see somebody use it than it sit in my safe or shelf. I am slowly moving away from the collector mentality. I know what you say makes sense as it does take a fair bit of time and effort to obtain certain pieces. I would still feel guilty marking anything up though but that's just me.
I am not blaming anybody but unless someone has had to ship overseas they have very little idea of the costs involved. I cover these costs myself and and still charge less than what I paid.
Thanks again for your comments.
 
TripleT said:
Scotcha, we have always dealt fairly with each other. I imagine you take quite a hit on shipping. It cost me nearly $70 to get a knife out of country once. Sometimes less, sometimes more. But there is no shame in making a few bucks on solid pieces, and I have at times made a premium on select Fiddleback knives. The idea that the flea market should be a deal or that sellers should act out of altruism is in error. Nice knives often go up and value, and the total cost is what the buyer will pay or what the seller thinks its fair. Not to mention that your time is worth money. If the price is too expensive for a buyer then they have the option to walk away. I am sorry you have had comments that imply that your knives are not prices fairly.
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Well said.
 
It is what it is. Sellers are free to price their knives for whatever they think they will sell for. No need to justify asking prices. That said, potential buyers are free to make offers and negotiate. Arguments about fairness are just negotiating tactics. When selling, I don't take offers or negotiating tactics personally. I just say make me an offer (if one has not already been made). If it's an offer I can accept, I say deal. If not, I say no thanks. Ultimately they all sell for what they are worth at that point in time to that group of potential buyers.

One thing I can't stand as a seller is when a potential buyer says "what's your best price." Ma'f*cker, my best price is the one I sell it for. Now make me an offer or get off the pot. I feel like saying go pound sand. Sometimes I say I don't know - feel free to make me an offer. Sometimes I say nothing. /rant
 
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