The Flea Market Mung Absolution Thread

xxkcxx said:
Brother with all I have seen of the awesomeness of your instagram posts you could keep your soul and still acquire that Duke! She is gorgeous and SO hard for me to sell.
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Haha. I'm trying to be good, but that is a hard one to pass up, especially being Duke-less at the moment! Someone would be wise to jump on that before you have second thoughts. Primo example of that model
 
That's it, I can't take any more of these price drops! I'm going the opposite way and will start a new trend ...


Bog Oak collection for sale






Yes, this is a joke!! (not for sale) It IS the Mung thread! :p
 
Warrior108 said:
That's it, I can't take any more of these price drops! I'm going the opposite way and will start a new trend ...



Yes, this is a joke!! (not for sale) It IS the Mung thread! :p
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BTW... What is the name for the Surls knife (pattern) in between the Inlander and the Terrasaur? The handle for that one looks looks to be similar in length to that of the Ladyfinger...
 
PolRoger said:
BTW... What is the name for the Surls knife (pattern) in between the Inlander and the Terrasaur? The handle for that one looks looks to be similar in length to that of the Ladyfinger...
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In case there are questions about any of them, left to right they are:
WAS Patch, WAS Palmer, WAS Big Palmer, WAS Inlander, WAS Patriot, FF Terrasaur, FF Old School Ladyfinger, OKT Hunter. The Patriot does have a large-ish handle for the size of the blade. Very comfortable.
 
At the rate they have been dropping, by next summer I will be able to start offering free knives with every sheath purchase :D I'm only keeping a couple and selling the rest, at a spectacular loss, and buying a Motoped to goof off with this fall.

Not so long ago used to be able to just try out whatever model and maybe lose ten bucks if the model/handle/color didn't work for you, now you just consider yourself lucky if you get half of what you paid. With the smaller knives at 400$ I can no longer accept that kind of loss as normal for a hobby. There are knives at dealers that wouldn't have lasted two seconds that now sit for weeks or months meaning the market has been flooded and this tidal wave of production needs to be reined in, otherwise people will just start buying only from the secondary market which will kill the primary as prices hitting half of retail become the new norm, and makes retail seem ridiculously high by comparison, which is why the flea market has been going crazy this past year and the Friday sales have slowed.

A year ago if you didn't get to the shark tank on Friday in the first minute or two you would probably get nothing that week. Frustrating at times, but fun. It can be difficult to define the line between not making enough and making way too many.
 
Warrior108 said:
And, this would be a reason to support removal of the sale price once the sale is complete. Some people replace the price with SOLD while others do not like that practice. There are pros and cons but I agree that its up to the seller to decide.
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It is the best reason I know of. I always do when the price has been dropped lower than what the knife is worth or should have sold for. I just see it as being respectful since the thread is in the maker's own forum. In most of the few cases where I have had to sell something a good bit lower than market value, I have avoided doing it here.
 
mistwalker said:
It is the best reason I know of. I always do when the price has been dropped lower than what the knife is worth or should have sold for. I just see it as being respectful since the thread is in the maker's own forum. In most of the few cases where I have had to sell something a good bit lower than market value, I have avoided doing it here.
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This is what I've come around to recognize since this conversation started. Appreciate that perspective, Mistwalker.
 
Good morning everyone. With respect to the current temperature of the Flea Market, there have been a lot of great observations/ suggestions over the last two days. I'd have to say that Kymedic and Skyler nicely hint at the most fundamental microeconomics principle, Supply & Demand.
It would be interesting to see if our group here could reshape the ordinary flow of supply in this market to increase demand.
I don't know? We are seeing some heavy discounts at the moment, yet still a saturation of desirable pieces in the market.
I think it's admirable for some willing to pull pieces from the market for the sake of the maker and the product's integrity.
On the flip side, we all know how this hobby can get us carried away over budget. The Flea market is a vessel for those individuals to recoup funds quickly. Yes, sometimes at a discounted price, but if that is what the current market is dictating, then the seller may have no other choice at the time. Don't forget, the buyer also gets a great deal. And, who doesn't like a great deal?

I think you guys hit the nail on the head though. Right now, it's the end of summer. A lot of us have plenty of other financial obligations at the moment. Especially those of us with kids getting back to school. And though impressive as to how many pieces the forge is pumping out every week, it just may be a wee bit heavy on the supply side at the moment. The good part is, there seems to be a heightened awareness as of late to produce some of the more desirable features people are looking for. Although, stainless steel still seems to remain somewhat elusive.

Well, at any rate, this isn't the first time we've seen the market in this condition and it won't be the last. I'd simply encourage more folks to take advantage of some of the great prices right now. There are truly some stellar knives in the market just waiting to be scooped up!

Take care everyone. I hope you all have a good week and rest of the summer.
For those of you needing to sell for other financial obligations, good luck!
 
Kal-El said:
Good morning everyone. With respect to the current temperature of the Flea Market, there have been a lot of great observations/ suggestions over the last two days. I'd have to say that Kymedic and Skyler nicely hint at the most fundamental microeconomics principle, Supply & Demand.
It would be interesting to see if our group here could reshape the ordinary flow of supply in this market to increase demand.
I don't know? We are seeing some heavy discounts at the moment, yet still a saturation of desirable pieces in the market.
I think it's admirable for some willing to pull pieces from the market for the sake of the maker and the product's integrity.
On the flip side, we all know how this hobby can get us carried away over budget. The Flea market is a vessel for those individuals to recoup funds quickly. Yes, sometimes at a discounted price, but if that is what the current market is dictating, then the seller may have no other choice at the time. Don't forget, the buyer also gets a great deal. And, who doesn't like a great deal?

I think you guys hit the nail on the head though. Right now, it's the end of summer. A lot of us have plenty of other financial obligations at the moment. Especially those of us with kids getting back to school. And though impressive as to how many pieces the forge is pumping out every week, it just may be a wee bit heavy on the supply side at the moment. The good part is, there seems to be a heightened awareness as of late to produce some of the more desirable features people are looking for. Although, stainless steel still seems to remain somewhat elusive.

Well, at any rate, this isn't the first time we've seen the market in this condition and it won't be the last. I'd simply encourage more folks to take advantage of some of the great prices right now. There are truly some stellar knives in the market just waiting to be scooped up!

Take care everyone. I hope you all have a good week and rest of the summer.
For those of you needing to sell for other financial obligations, good luck!
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Yes, it is definitely tough this time of year, just with all of the supplies for a kid in elementary school, I can just imagine what it's like for parents having to buy college books, the prices on those can get insane fast. I don't think anyone here understands financial stress any better than I do, maybe just with more obligations and bigger numbers, but life as you know it coming unraveled really feels no different in one tax bracket than it does in another, just looks more intimidating on paper...

I guess it just bothered me to see two pieces with extras in such great shape sell for roughly $100 more than one would have sold for as new. I know we all see things differently, and we have all faced hard times. I have had to let several go much lower than I should have, because I had an immediate need to get my family out of actual physical jeopardy in -49F night time temps, when our propane tank ran empty and my financial partner bailed on me. But I just couldn't have posted them that low here in Andy's own forum just because I needed to thin my collection. I would have seen that as me being disrespectful to the man in his own forum, and as me abusing the opportunity to sell here, and thinking much of myself, and little of the craftsman involved.

Maybe it was a case where I let my heart out on my sleeve for a minute because Andy and I became friends long before I could afford to become a customer. Yet still, I hate to see the market get lowered that way openly, because market value also in large part dictates collection values. It is a vicious cycle...
 
Hey Brian,
I certainly hope that my comments weren't taken the wrong way or that I was directing them to any one person. Like I said, I find it admirable that you and likely others have taken the position to remove or re-list their pieces at prices more in line with their original value out of either respect for Andy and this forum or just plain principle. I also understand that others may have to discount their listings in order to recoup "something" so that they can fulfill more pressing expenses. As you said, it is a cycle and the market should come back around soon (I hope). I have a beautiful Patch on the exchange right now that I thought would sell in no time. It's been about a week now?? I just may remove the listing for now as well.

Anyway, take care my friend. As always, I hope things get better and that you have many great successes.

Sergio

mistwalker said:
Yes, it is definitely tough this time of year, just with all of the supplies for a kid in elementary school, I can just imagine what it's like for parents having to buy college books, the prices on those can get insane fast. I don't think anyone here understands financial stress any better than I do, maybe just with more obligations and bigger numbers, but life as you know it coming unraveled really feels no different in one tax bracket than it does in another, just looks more intimidating on paper...

I guess it just bothered me to see two pieces with extras in such great shape sell for roughly $100 more than one would have sold for as new. I know we all see things differently, and we have all faced hard times. I have had to let several go much lower than I should have, because I had an immediate need to get my family out of actual physical jeopardy in -49F night time temps, when our propane tank ran empty and my financial partner bailed on me. But I just couldn't have posted them that low here in Andy's own forum just because I needed to thin my collection. I would have seen that as me being disrespectful to the man in his own forum, and as me abusing the opportunity to sell here, and thinking much of myself, and little of the craftsman involved.

Maybe it was a case where I let my heart out on my sleeve for a minute because Andy and I became friends long before I could afford to become a customer. Yet still, I hate to see the market get lowered that way openly, because market value also in large part dictates collection values. It is a vicious cycle...
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Jerry, nice snag on that Runt!

And...... While we're on the topic, nice way to get the ball rolling in the Market!!

Now, who wants my Patch :D
 
While we are on the subject:

You must wait 14 days (2 week rule) to relist an item for the second time. So once you list an item for sale, that item cannot appear for a second time in a sales thread until 2 weeks have passed from the date of the original thread. Any changes made to your existing sales thread (withdrawing, editing price, etc.) must be made to that thread, don't start new threads with the same items. Use a calendar if you need to. You can link your sales threads to your signature space, but don't make it a giant billboard.
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Navigating the market can be very difficult when the same knives appear over and over in separate posts. The forum etiquette and rule is to edit your initial post with any changes to pics/sale price/terms/etc. If you do choose to bump it after 14 days have passed, please remove your original post so that other member's sales are not masked by your activities. In some cases, I have seen posters abiding by this rule have their sale pushed back three or four pages by repeated bumps in violation of this rule.
 
Kal-El said:
Jerry, nice snag on that Runt!

And...... While we're on the topic, nice way to get the ball rolling in the Market!!

Now, who wants my Patch :D
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Thanks :-) I paid asking price, didn't question it and added the PP fees also for Goods/Service.


I'm not sure if that Runt is bad luck or what but it was up for sale 2 times before and I missed it both times.
 
Panthera tigris said:
While we are on the subject:



Navigating the market can be very difficult when the same knives appear over and over in separate posts. The forum etiquette and rule is to edit your initial post with any changes to pics/sale price/terms/etc. If you do choose to bump it after 14 days have passed, please remove your original post so that other member's sales are not masked by your activities. In some cases, I have seen posters abiding by this rule have their sale pushed back three or four pages by repeated bumps in violation of this rule.
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Nice reminder. I am actually guilty of this with my latest listing. I followed up with a new post indicating a price reduction.

Warrior108 said:
Thanks :-) I paid asking price, didn't question it and added the PP fees also for Goods/Service.


I'm not sure if that Runt is bad luck or what but it was up for sale 2 times before and I missed it both times.
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Not bad luck. I'm sure it was simply fate that enabled you to finally snag it :)
 
Market is also complicated right now due to bladeforums functionality. Searching for recent posts/started threads by any user is limited to 08/15 and before since search isn't caching.
 
Panthera tigris said:
Market is also complicated right now due to bladeforums functionality. Searching for recent posts/started threads by any user is limited to 08/15 and before since search isn't caching.
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grumble grumble ... Thanks for that info! I was wondering why my search wasn't working earlier.
 
Kal-El said:
Hey Brian,
I certainly hope that my comments weren't taken the wrong way or that I was directing them to any one person. Like I said, I find it admirable that you and likely others have taken the position to remove or re-list their pieces at prices more in line with their original value out of either respect for Andy and this forum or just plain principle. I also understand that others may have to discount their listings in order to recoup "something" so that they can fulfill more pressing expenses. As you said, it is a cycle and the market should come back around soon (I hope). I have a beautiful Patch on the exchange right now that I thought would sell in no time. It's been about a week now?? I just may remove the listing for now as well.

Anyway, take care my friend. As always, I hope things get better and that you have many great successes.

Sergio
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Of course not. I understand completely, and you do have to expect some depreciation even if it just sat in a box never touched due to being second hand. I get that. I was just expressing some personal general thoughts. I guess it's just how I look at things, and don't take this the wrong way guys, if I list something for sale here used I drop the price to reflect it being used. Then if it sits too long, and I feel I have room to adjust it without dissing anyone, I may lower it a bit. However, I know the regulars here and their buying habits (lol, I have been hanging out here for almost seven years now :) ) and if I really need the funds and really need to move it quickly, rather than risk it being bought by someone who really has no interest in the knife and is only buying it because it is a Fiddleback at a ridiculously low price, I contact people who have shown lots of interest in Andy's knives in the past but who simply cannot afford them as new or even at standard flea market pricing. My thinking being why give an insanely good deal to a person who doesn't even want the knife and it will just sit in a box until it sells again, when I can give that same break to someone out there who has been wishing they could afford one for years, and whom the knife will actually make happy and be used. That just makes more sense to my mind...
 
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