lol hes leaking specs right here in front of RAT cutlery workers, funny. are the handles typically factored into the blades listed weights? and can some one account for the 8oz difference in weight between the rtak and junglas? seems like an extreme difference for .25 longer blade. am i missing something? like i was thinking maybe the rtak handle is heavier? or maybe it has to do with steel composition? though they both say they are 1095