the next rhino????

If the plasma cutter generates enough heat in the cutting process it will destroy the blades temper. I don't know what the going rate is on a plasma cutter but it doesn't take much to screw up a tempered knife blade. That's just been my experience.

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Thanks Ark, that is what I am trying to find out about. The heat that is. The parts we are cutting do not seem to be getting very hot. I do remember reading where the edge of the cut actyally gets quite hard and therefore difficult to grind/file after wards. This leads me to believe that heat is an issue. I just do not know if it is concentrated enough that it would not effect the hole of the knife blade? Maybe I will post this in the custome knifemakers forum?
Thanks again for any help!
 
Just got an email from the maker. He recieved it this afternoon and the grinding is done. Talk about service!
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The Black-T had to be stripped and he says the finish leaves a little to be desired. We're working on what the finish should be. Bead blasted or Teflon. Hmmmmm
 
Awesome John!
I don't think I will try this on my knife if your knife grinding friend is willing to do a few more?
Thanks for keeping us up to date!
 
Sorry about the delayed post. The blade has been bead blasted and was suppost to have been placed in the mail this morning, coming home.

Pictures and details will be up ASAP.
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I talked with the maker and he will make them for folks. Details will be posted with the pictures. Why put the horse before the cart?
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John
 
Guess what came in the mail this evening.
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More in a little while. Pictures being done as we "speak" . . . well as I type. You know what I mean.

John
 
Here are the pictures. I will be having the top edge serrated in the next couple of weeks. I'll amend the pictures when that is done.

Overall, I have to say I really dig the look. Not something I think I'd carry every day, but defiantly has a "cool" factor.

Let me know what you think:
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The grinding was done by maker Bill Siegle, aka WAS4U on the forums. While I was searching for a maker that would be willing to take on the project, Bill contacted me, saying he like doing things of this nature.

A couple of emails and sketches later, we were in business. I was amazed that I sent the knife "Priority" mail from Florida to Oregon and I received an email in 48 hours saying he had not only received the knife, but that it was complete!!

Bill is willing to do the same job for anyone that is interested. The ground rules are as follows:

The cost is $75 for the conversion on your Commander. This includes assembly/disassembly, grinding, refinishing (bead blasting or coating with Teflon/Moly) and return shipping. He is how ever open to trades. As he put it, "will work for knives".

Bill wants it understood that as he is working on the customers knife and not his own, that he can not be responsible if "something goes awry" with the customers knife. Commanders are just to expensive for him to buy someone a new Commander if their not happy with the results. I don't think this is a problem, but you have to know it going in.

Also, I have not checked, but I'm fairly sure this work voids your factory warranty.
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It had to be said.

While I chose to have the wave removed, you can retain it on yours.

You can view his work on his web site:

http://www.geocities.com/siegleknives/

I really like that "Purple Tanto" myself.
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His contact info is:

Bill Siegle
1295 Toliver Rd #1
Molalla, OR 97038
WAS4U@cs.com

He says he will be out of reach until Monday.

Let me personally thank Joel and Bill. Without either of them this project would not have happened.

Joel, you get any more ideas like this, you just let me know buddy.
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John:

Slap some serrations on that thing and I want it!

This may actually cause me to break down and buy a commander just to do the conversion because you all know how tough it is to find a Genuine Emerson Custom Rhino!

The custom maker did a awesome job on this! I think it looks great.
 
Man that knife looks......I don't know, ah..wicked? No that's not it,....Lets just say I would run the other way as fast as I could if someone pulled it out on me in a dark alley.
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Especially being armed with only a little CQC5
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It'll be getting a serration job very soon.
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But ya' know, looking at the pictures side by side, the "Combat Commander" looks even more wicked then the Rhino, doesn't it? I think it's the recurve.

John
 
Y'know, this may upset some people, but I prefer the looks of the conversion more than the real Rhino !

I think I may just have to get one of mine done !

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darN! i love that converted emerson....makes it look much better then the original commander...could someone tell me how long it would take for the conversion to be done?? and how much would it be inclusive of postage to singapore??

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John, it came out looking really nice! I can't tell where the edge is though. Is it on the same side as the original edge? Also, how sharp is it compared to the original edge, because the top side must have a steep angle. Is Bill also going to do the serrations? I believe I will be adding to his list of 'Combat Commmander Conversions'!
 
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Good question. As I pointed out above, this one is not 100% complete yet. The top edge does not have a final sharpening on it yet.

As I'm having the top edge serrated, there was no sense in putting a final sharpening on it, then serrating over that.

Having said that, the grind lines he did on the top are awesome. the final sharpening/serrating will be no problem. I'll try to explain it.

The ground out portion of the blade runs from the tip to the edge of the thumb disk. The top edge is "V" ground from the tip to the point that the body would not cover the edge when the knife is closed. (You don't want a sharpened edge exposed when the knife is closed) See the original sketch. The hash mark is the area that we're talking about. From that point back, it widens out until it gets to the edge of the thumb disk.

If you look at the tip, you will see that it's was a "new grind" 2000 Commander. As such it has the angled tip. Bill managed to grind the top so that it matches that angle, keeping the blade thickness that the redesign intended all the way out to the point.

I'll attempt to get a picture that will help illustrate these points.

The final serration (aka completion of the project) will be done in the next couple of weeks, as time allows. On knives sent into him, Bill will complete the final sharpening, but Bill doesn't have a serrating wheel. I'm having that done elsewhere.

On a side note, I took the knife to a Glock match today and showed it around. Half the folks that saw it were in love. The other half looked at me like I was insane.
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