The Official ZT0562 Thread!! (FIRST LOOK)

[PC87]

Birthing pains. I assume they will get better, hopefully.

 

[Sunyata]

Man you guys are killing my buzz for the 0562cf

Damn

 

[PC87]

Phone will not focus close enough to show G10 being heavy to liner. For me it is a non issue. This this is smooth though. I can't wait to see how it feels after it breaks in. Still love the 0560 though.

That 566 still looks like its in the sweet spot for EDC.

 

[cakes072185]

I'm not getting any of those machining lines, and mines dead centered. Hopefully that one is a fluke. I tell you what though I'd be HEATED if that was me. I've been waiting for this for a while.

 

[bld522]

You are assuming that the XM-18 and the 0562CF are interchangeable because they originate from the Rick, but that will never happen.

Yes, I understand how you could draw that conclusion from what I said. But I said "dead ringer" more to make a point than to infer that the parts will be interchangeable. Even admitting that they won't be interchangeable, I suspect the knives will be close enough that only a diehard Hinderer aficionado will be willing to pay twice as much money or more to buy a 3.5" XM-18 with a slicer grind once the 0562CF comes to market. And I'd still be willing to bet that the secondary market in 3.5" XM-18's will take a hit after the 0562CF is released. Time will tell if I'm right about that.

 

[NaturalMystic]

Thanks for the pics, I'm glad these are finally available but I'll also be waiting a while before deciding which model I'll purchase. I'm trying to reduce new knife purchases and will likely only get one of these models, likely the 0562CF.

 

[NaturalMystic]

I'm inclined to agree with you man, the aftermarket price on original Hinderers is ridiculous. If these cut into aftermarket sales and mark up, and go back to Rick himself it'd be great if that profit turns into bigger production runs on XMs and more widespread availability for those who really want a real Hinderer. One can only hope!

Yes, I understand how you could draw that conclusion from what I said. But I said "dead ringer" more to make a point than to infer that the parts will be interchangeable. Even admitting that they won't be interchangeable, I suspect the knives will be close enough that only a diehard Hinderer aficionado will be willing to pay twice as much money or more to buy a 3.5" XM-18 with a slicer grind once the 0562CF comes to market. And I'd still be willing to bet that the secondary market in 3.5" XM-18's will take a hit after the 0562CF is released. Time will tell if I'm right about that.

 

[rxavage]

the 562cf looks sweet but I'm still eying the 561 for my next buy, maybe one day I will pick up the former but Cake's pics sealed it for me.

 

[Gavin S.]

Here are some quick pictures.

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That's not great. I'd send it back, too.

 

[bld522]

I'm inclined to agree with you man, the aftermarket price on original Hinderers is ridiculous. If these cut into aftermarket sales and mark up, and go back to Rick himself it'd be great if that profit turns into bigger production runs on XMs and more widespread availability for those who really want a real Hinderer. One can only hope!

Once again, if the 0562CF lives up to it's potential, there won't be any need for Rick to make bigger production runs of XMs. On paper, the only advantages an XM-18 has over an 0562CF is bling and the Hinderer trademark.

 

[grownstar]

On paper, the only advantages an XM-18 has over an 0562CF is bling and the Hinderer trademark.

For many, that bling and trademark is enough. Don't underestimate the rabid Hinderer fanbase. Some purists won't accept anything but an XM haha.

 

[bld522]

Yep. To paraphrase Ella Fitzgerald, it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that bling. I refer to it as the Jeremy effect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC5P234Fs8s

 

[bld522]

Man you guys are killing my buzz for the 0562cf

Damn

The problems that exist will get corrected over time. Meanwhile, ZT has one of the best warranties in the business. The only thing you may have to pay for over and above the price of the knife is the cost of shipping it back to the factory. And just so you know, I speak from experience. I bought an 0770CF on the initial run and had to ship it back to ZT to correct a cosmetic flaw with the scale on the presentation side of the knife. It came back perfect, as expected.

For what it's worth, I'll never buy another ZT knife on the initial run again unless I personally inspect it first. Once bitten, twice shy. If you're concerned that you may receive a flawed example, wait for the complaints people post on BF to die down and then buy it. That's what I plan to do from now on. And, of course, there will always be a certain percentage of knives that have issues regardless of how long you wait. That's why manufacturers issue warranties in the first place.

PS: Here's a link to the ZT warranty form if you need it: http://zt.kaiusaltd.com/warranty/form

 

[vinnier6]

What was the cosmetic flaw with the 770cf

 

[bld522]

Uneven patterning in the carbon fiber. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same issue:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...F-production-question?p=13503907#post13503907

And in case you're thinking what I'm thinking, I'd keep an eye out for that on the 0562CFs when they get released.

 

[Misanthropia]

If anyone gets the chance, can they measure the thickness behind the edge? I know it's supposed to be a "slicer" grind but I'm a little skeptical of its performance since ZT's are notoriously thick behind the edge.

 

[ToddM]

For what it's worth, I'll never buy another ZT knife on the initial run again unless I personally inspect it first. Once bitten, twice shy. If you're concerned that you may receive a flawed example, wait for the complaints people post on BF to die down and then buy it. That's what I plan to do from now on. And, of course, there will always be a certain percentage of knives that have issues regardless of how long you wait. That's why manufacturers issue warranties in the first place.[/url]

That's good advice with any product, not just knives, especially ones with a lot of anticipation, that are rushed because they are behind schedule, etc. the first couple runs have more issues. I avoid first runs whenever possible, unless it's a limited edition etc. where it can't be helped. The BM 940-1 had issues to start as well. There's also the reality that once 100, 1000, 10000 people start using a product some issues won't show up even with very diligent QC and testing.

Thankfully most companies are good about getting it sorted but there's still downtime and cost of return. Personally if a knife arrives to me new out of the box with issues, I don't believe it should cost the customer a penny to get it fixed/replaced. A customer should not have to pay return shipping because the company QC failed and put a poor example of their product in a box.

 

[bld522]

Personally if a knife arrives to me new out of the box with issues, I don't believe it should cost the customer a penny to get it fixed/replaced. A customer should not have to pay return shipping because the company QC failed and put a poor example of their product in a box.

I agree. But it's the rare manufacturer that will pay return shipping for their QC failures. Having to absorb that cost if necessary is a risk a person has to assume if they decide to do business via the Internet.

 

[Rolex John]

So is anyone hearing anything about how much longer it will take the CF version to ship?

 

[bld522]

Not me. And if ZT remains true to form, nobody will know how much longer it will take the CF version to ship until it actually shows up at a dealership somewhere.