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The price of being prepared

Esav Benyamin said:
"America"?

We know school systems have been beset by "progressive" causes and thinking, including "zero tolerance" as a way of avoiding personal responsibility for adult decisions.

But "America"? Our attitude to the contrary here is proof that there is a lot more to America than these occasional travesties.

Perhaps someone could find an address or email address to which we could write to help convince that particular school system how unreal their behavior may seem to real grown-ups.
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You are right about zero tolerance policies. I'm against them and mandatory sentencing for that matter. It takes the circumstances out of the equation so nobody has to actually think about the correct punishment.
 
For occasions such as these where they can search your car ( is a locked glove box private? ).
How about putting a pocket knife in a small box then seal the box in heat seal nylon. You can't see thru the material it does not feel like a knife, where is the PC to open it?
 
So this zero tolerance policy will generate liars.

Those who want to harm with weapons, will lie about them anyway - and now those who only have them in their car for emergencies will also start to lie about them.

Note that he was completely honest and did what he was told. He might not do that again.
 
I'm sure the young man did not consider his knife a weapon but a necessary tool. I feel the punishment was harsh, but the school is trying to make a point to those who would do harm. What better way to show how impartial they are. Punish the cream de la cream. I hope this action doesn't sour him from being the best of the best. He should keep his head high and his mouth shut next time. He was probably telling others how to be prepared or how prepared he was. If asked about a knife, he could have said that he could make one if necessary out of glass or a can. A good lesson in not showing your hand. Those that would do harm will continue to take knives and guns to school.
 
""I was upset with it, but I can understand that. They have the zero-tolerance rule."

Sheep, let him live with it then.

A lot of infants are very cute and you can tell they are going to be good looking human beings. A lot of infants look like something out of a horror film but you don't go around telling the parents that, right?

Even some of those unpleasant looking infants could grow up to be beautiful or handsome, but you don't go around telling the absolute truth about it all the time. I have yet to hear a person tell the unvarnished truth about an ugly infant, "That baby is something else all right." You get out in the parking lot and the guy says, "God Almighty that is one homely child."

There is a time to keep things private which is most of the time. And there is a time to LIE when you are doing the right thing and someone else wishes to do the wrong thing to you. Simple as that.

I got rather discouraged in here about a month or so ago and took a break. Everyone wants the 1-800-RATBASTARD society and now they have it. But they only want it when they see fit to have it. This is what you get.
 
cgmblade said:
This is the kind of thing that causes a lot of parents to home school.

A six year old in Delaware just got 45 days in the school district reform school for having a cub scout eating utensil. see link: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/education/12discipline.html
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How different it is nowadays.... I went to school K-12 in that district. I've got to do a little research and see when their zero tolerance stance on weapons was enacted.

There are people that I work with that won't bring a friggin' knife to work to cut bread on food day.....

I wish these sheeple had wool we could sheer for profit...
 
myright said:
I wish these sheeple had wool we could sheer for profit...
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Thank you for the visual.

http://www.survivallab.blogspot.com/

gotwool.jpg
 
I just read an article in the local news this morning where a class of elementary students studied Christopher Columbus. At the end of the lesson, they formed a jury and voted unanimously to sentence him to life in prison for what he did!

I think the only thing that can save this county now is to have sensible people home-school their children. It's our only hope for the future!

I live in upstate NY about an hour from the town where the OP's incident happened. I used to carry a Schrade Stockman in my pocket every day. It wasn't the least bit uncommon or worrisome to the teachers.

Sad times.



Stay sharp,
desmobob
 
I just turned 41 and I can remember in Elementary School that a friend of mine had his tiny little pocketknife confiscated and his mother came to school and picked it up and that was that. So, even during my childhood in that part of Maryland, I was never allowed to carry my Cub Scout knife or any other pocketknife. Other people in Maryland report that they could carry pocketknives even into the 1980s, it all depends on where you live.

I think you're correct though. Almost all of the politicians that want to eliminate school choice by kissing the ass of teachers and their unions send their kids to private schools while preaching the virtues of the public schools. It's insane.

If at all possible, get the kids out of the soul-killing, mind-numbing environment.
 
I had a friend who was suspended from school a few years ago. He was searched during lunch and found to have had a tiny swiss army knife on his keychain. :(
 
Stories like this just leave me completely puzzled.

How did we reach the point where so many live their lives in so much fear of such small objects?
 
i can understand not maybe being able to carry a large knife at school but being suspended for having a very very small blade in a car is just wrong. yet for some odd reason in b.c sekes are allowed to carry daggers because they are ceremonial i believe even in schools but i could be wrong about that
 
Everyone is getting the interventionist-informant society that they want when it comes to their own sense of suspicion but when it comes to someone else's sense of suspicion, they get their ass up on their back. One person's paranoia is another man's preparedness. One man's paranoia is also another man's potential liberty that could be curtailed because of a bunch of slack-jawed mouth-breathers who have to police all of their neighbors.
 
Don Rearic said:
Everyone is getting the interventionist-informant society that they want when it comes to their own sense of suspicion but when it comes to someone else's sense of suspicion, they get their ass up on their back. One person's paranoia is another man's preparedness. One man's paranoia is also another man's potential liberty that could be curtailed because of a bunch of slack-jawed mouth-breathers who have to police all of their neighbors.
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I'm not touching that one in this forum.
 
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