The Puukko

[SwissHeritageCo]

I was interested and found one on eBay. It has a replacement sheath ( SwissHeritageCo get ready for this one to visit!) and will be a user, I think.

Ooh, which one did you get?

 

[SwissHeritageCo]

Got a reply from Marttiini. One of their experienced worker was on summer vacation, hence the delayed reply. He stated that the sheath model is from 1960's. Blade is polished and it gives an impression of stainless steel but it is actually carbon steel (makes sense since there's slight patina at one part of the blade, although the blade is very very well kept!). Likely a model 260, no longer in production. No knowledge on the sheath pattern or what it means.

I wonder if they could tell you what hardness they used to run their older steels at... I hear it's rather soft these days.

 

[A.L.]

I wonder if they could tell you what hardness they used to run their older steels at... I hear it's rather soft these days.

I wonder. The current HRC is pretty soft, higher on their carbon models (according to them). I’d say the softness is not a huge issue for scandic/finnish woods that are soft as well.

I don’t think they’d need to go for supersteel but being more translucent would go a long way. Something like 12c27 would be sweet without being too expensive.

 

[Arathol]

I wonder if they could tell you what hardness they used to run their older steels at... I hear it's rather soft these days.

How old are you referring to? For a long time the knives were done by heating to the right color, quenching, then tempering in a box of heated sand. I don't think that HRC testing was a real concern.

Marttiini has used various kinds of steel over the years too, that will make a difference. Older knives are mostly straight up carbon steel like silver steel, or 12C27 stainless From what I've seen most were high 50s HRC. More current carbon steel knives use 80CrV2, around 59-60 I think, stainless is something like 420 hardened to mid 50s HRC. I have a couple of these 80CrV2 blades, they are quite similar to the Laurin Mettalli blades. After the move to the new factory in Estonia some years ago I would not be surprised if they were sourcing blades from Laurin Mettalli.

 

[SwissHeritageCo]

I too wouldn't doubt they sourced their 80crv2 blanks from Laurin Mettali, but many of their blades don't match up with what Laurin offers. Laurin's stainless is definitely on the softer side as well.

I had an Arctic Carver that I used extensively for a couple years and it was really soft. Too soft for my preference these days.. whereas my main woods knives for the last 5 years or so have been Laurin's Krupp 80crv2 (love the stuff).

 

[Arathol]

From whats published by Marttiini, the "regular" carbon steel seems to be 1075 (or the equivalent of) @~55-56HRC. Thats probably what you had.

 

[SwissHeritageCo]

From whats published by Marttiini, the "regular" carbon steel seems to be 1075 (or the equivalent of) @~55-56HRC. Thats probably what you had.

This feels right.

I will say Marttini does an exceptional job at shaping their handles. Just wish they would ditch the ricasso and go straight scandi grind into the handle.

Also think it's weird that not a single one of these producers make a plain Tommi-esque puukko outside of Ahti. The arctic carver was and revised Mora carver are the closest I could find.

I would love to find one of the older longer Ahti Juhlas. Would love to find an older styled Korpi as well (before the handle shape change).

 

[Arathol]

This feels right.

I will say Marttini does an exceptional job at shaping their handles. Just wish they would ditch the ricasso and go straight scandi grind into the handle.

Marttiini always made knives without a ricasso until relatively recently. The blades now are I think a combination of cheap mass production and using Western style designs to sell more knives in the American market. Marttiini should go back to the old style larger handles and wider blades too

Also think it's weird that not a single one of these producers make a plain Tommi-esque puukko outside of Ahti. The arctic carver was and revised Mora carver are the closest I could find.

I think Jarvenpaa makes them, as does Erapuu.

I would love to find one of the older longer Ahti Juhlas. Would love to find an older styled Korpi as well (before the handle shape change).

Those older knives come up a lot on ebay. Many of them are under the Kellam name though.

 

[jfk1110]

Marttiini always made knives without a ricasso until relatively recently. The blades now are I think a combination of cheap mass production and using Western style designs to sell more knives in the American market. Marttiini should go back to the old style larger handles and wider blades too

I think Jarvenpaa makes them, as does Erapuu.

Those older knives come up a lot on ebay. Many of them are under the Kellam name though.

Love that birch bark sheath!!!! Any more.pics??? Pretty please......

 

[Arathol]

Love that birch bark sheath!!!! Any more.pics??? Pretty please......

and while we're at it, another one....

 

[jfk1110]

and while we're at it, another one....

Thanks!!

 

[SwissHeritageCo]

Marttiini always made knives without a ricasso until relatively recently. The blades now are I think a combination of cheap mass production and using Western style designs to sell more knives in the American market. Marttiini should go back to the old style larger handles and wider blades too

I think Jarvenpaa makes them, as does Erapuu.

Those older knives come up a lot on ebay. Many of them are under the Kellam name though.

I've yet to see an Erapuu that is Tommi-esque in the way I'm imagining it. Maybe you're referring to the birch bark one?

You seem to have an endless trove of those Jarvenpaa's and vintage Marrttini (as pictured) with the birdsbeak pommels.. but everytime I look for a decent example it's got a giant Moose branded on the handle and I'm not keen on it

I'll keep an eye out on ebay!

 

[SwissHeritageCo]

This thread needs more puukko's!

 

[Arathol]

This thread needs more puukko's!

Yes it does....

 

[oldmanwilly]

Yes it does....

Oh, great, you found my lost crate of puukot! You can just forward it on to me.

In all seriousness, it's a handsome pair. Congratulations!

 

[jfk1110]

Yes it does....

Nice pair....

 

[SwissHeritageCo]

Alright A Arathol ...

 

[birdsbeaks]

 

[The Zieg]

I just came back to town found this waiting for me. It is an eBay purchase and I did not expect it to be so close to mint condition. I want it as a user, but . . .

Orijärvi puukko by Fiskars, probably issued in the late '80s to '90s. OAL 8.5", blade 4", 3 mm at the base of blade with a distinct distal taper. Very slight upward swept trailing point. Hidden tang, about a half inch wide, no peen.

The shape of the grip is unique, faceted in a way I've never seen. Feels terrific!

 

[SwissHeritageCo]

I just came back to town found this waiting for me. It is an eBay purchase and I did not expect it to be so close to mint condition. I want it as a user, but . . .

Orijärvi puukko by Fiskars, probably issued in the late '80s to '90s. OAL 8.5", blade 4", 3 mm at the base of blade with a distinct distal taper. Very slight upward swept trailing point. Hidden tang, about a half inch wide, no peen.

The shape of the grip is unique, faceted in a way I've never seen. Feels terrific!

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I've heard legend of these. So that was the knife in the video... (the only good looking one).

Always with the coolest kit, that's a proper score!