The Real Jason Jacobs

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HappyDaddy said:
Reason: Happy Daddy is all bent out of shape.

Nope - just thought I'd point it out before you got infracted for it. People occasionally forget (or don't know) the language rules in the "open" forums.
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I'd never openly offend you and I hope I didn't. I do appreciate the reminder of the possible audience.
 
I love it! The guy dumps this thread here and hasn't been back since. Meanwhile the thread is a buzz! Classic!
 
Wow, I have been grinding steel now for more than a year. I started off several years ago making blades from wood so I can understand the geometry of the cuts and the way to remove material properly. I have a few boxes now minus the ones I have given to kids or family has kept. I have a pile of blades on my workbench that I deem not good enough to give away for Christmas presents. Now here is where I am going with this. Sir, you have a "unique" style. Honestly though every blade I have ever cut looks to me to be cleaner than these. I was whittling knife blades from pine 2x4s when I was a teen that look cleaner than this. I wish you luck, but for goodness sakes, your work looks real close the cheap tourist knives you buy when in Asian and Middle Eastern countries. Even the color combinations are straight out of the Himalayas. Maybe thats where you take your inspiration from. There is some old wrinkled guy in Pakistan smiling at seeing your work, saying is broken English with a heavy Paki accent "Now that is class". I chalk this up to a cheap advertising ploy.
 
Andy the Aussie said:
..... so did Charles Manson, Ivan Milat, Jeffrey Dahmer, Pol Pot and Katherine Knight (a couple in there just to throw you). That does not make it a good thing... ;) ;) :D
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Comparing Mr Jacobs to serial killers is a bit of a stretch.

As far as I know his endeavours are not causing any harm to anyone.
 
Those handles.... I could get past the shaping of the knife and throw one in the tackle box but those handles...

But ill give jacobs customs props on doing what they love, as a family. But you could drum up a lot more business by cleaning up your style and products.
 
Ok well at least this man has been verified by a respected long time member of our forum in reference to the origin of his product. This is a good thing.. So why hasn't even ONE of the many Knife Retailers that sell Quartermaster Knives dropped in on Jared West's MYTHICAL Texas knife factory ? Surely we have many respected members like sheathmaker in the Austin area and NO ONE has set foot in it or even seen it ? When I inquired to a retailer about this , all I got was crickets ?
 
banksy said:
Well the work of the restorer, like the counterfeiter, is a matter of technical skill - or lack of - not of art.

I suppose what I'm saying is there are any number of perfectly executed cookie-cutter bushcraft or hunting blades on this site. They all look very much alike, and for the most part copies of what's gone before.

At least these - like them or not - have some personality.
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They do at that, and the personality is a matter of taste. The function is also technically there, I'm sure they'll cut things more or less. But the quality is objectively bad.

skyhorse said:
Ok well at least this man has been verified by a respected long time member of our forum in reference to the origin of his product. This is a good thing.. So why hasn't even ONE of the many Knife Retailers that sell Quartermaster Knives dropped in on Jared West's MYTHICAL Texas knife factory ? Surely we have many respected members like sheathmaker in the Austin area and NO ONE has set foot in it or even seen it ? When I inquired to a retailer about this , all I got was crickets ?
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See below:

sheathmaker said:
Well, gentlemen, This thread piqued my interest so I drove the 5 or so miles from my shop out to Jason Jacob's shop for a first hand look and experience. I didn't even realize he was that close until I checked out the web site. I was met by a very friendly and open Jason Jacobs who was glad to show me his entire operation. He has a variety of cutting, grinding and polishing equipment that is well used and serviceable.

He is currently using D2 plainer blades (Austria, brand new) and European Damascus (not Pakistan). In fact I was interested in the plainer blades as a possible replacement for my leather splitter blade when needed. They are excellent quality and almost identical to the blade in my splitter now, but that is another story.

He apparently has market for the knives he produces in great quantity, because if he did not he would surely quit making them. That does not seem likely. I do not get the idea that he is taking advantage of anyone with his product. It simply "is what it is" and no one is forced to buy, yet they still do. I also don't see where he is damaging the market or costing other makers any sales of their product. He just caters to a market that wants what he makes.

Therefore, since he is not hurting anyone, and is certainly not lying to anyone, my vote would be to layoff and let him continue his modest attempt to make a living doing what he likes to do. That is, unless some of you feel compelled to provide a solution for which there is no real problem.

Thanks for reading.....

Paul
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Guess any publicity is good publicity? WHY WHY WHY.... I bet the HT on those is for SHIT.

who in the hell wants to own a piece of.. that.. steel.

weird people.. lots of people... apparently enough people out there will buy just about anything... If they were handed out, I'd pass.


EDIT: I've ground TWO knives.. both KILL anything on his site.. and I'm embaressed to show my 2 knives...

2nd EDIT: Where is Matt! (Charlie Mike) He needs to help these guys.. Matt hasn't been at it for 10yrs... and his uhm "work" has shown some sign of improvement... O_O
 
I rarely post in a thread like this a second time, because I generally say all I want to in the the first post. This second post is not so much about Mr. Jacobs as it is about some of the posts and logic (or lack thereof) demonstrated in this thread.

Madcap stated (and I paraphrase) that "most of the members who participate here are NOT part of his target demographic". I think that is a true and factual statement. If you agree then I have to question.... why this is even a point of discussion, since anyone who is now, or would become a member because of their interests, would not be a person who would normally be interested in his knives. Therefore, is this not kind of like "preaching to the choir"?

Next, I began to wonder, since I cannot make a knife, (design, grind and finish), just how great the novice makers, who are so quick to detract, would fare if they had the intestinal fortitude to post their work and subject themselves to the criticism??? (Making a wooden knife doesn't count).

Finally, The Jacobs, have not and do not post regularly on Blade Forums and there has been no overt attempt that I can find to advertise or attempt to attract business using Blade Forums. This kind of reminds me of the old "if it did not happen on Blade forums there is no deal and not our problem" that so many paraphrase from time to time.

It may be time to look inside your collective selves and let this sleeping dog lie.

With respect,

Paul
 
sheathmaker said:
I rarely post in a thread like this a second time, because I generally say all I want to in the the first post. This second post is not so much about Mr. Jacobs as it is about some of the posts and logic (or lack thereof) demonstrated in this thread.

Madcap stated (and I paraphrase) that "most of the members who participate here are NOT part of his target demographic". I think that is a true and factual statement. If you agree then I have to question.... why this is even a point of discussion, since anyone who is now, or would become a member because of their interests, would not be a person who would normally be interested in his knives. Therefore, is this not kind of like "preaching to the choir"?

Next, I began to wonder, since I cannot make a knife, (design, grind and finish), just how great the novice makers, who are so quick to detract, would fare if they had the intestinal fortitude to post their work and subject themselves to the criticism??? (Making a wooden knife doesn't count).

Finally, The Jacobs, have not and do not post regularly on Blade Forums and there has been no overt attempt that I can find to advertise or attempt to attract business using Blade Forums. This kind of reminds me of the old "if it did not happen on Blade forums there is no deal and not our problem" that so many paraphrase from time to time.

It may be time to look inside your collective selves and let this sleeping dog lie.

With respect,

Paul
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I would agree with this, more in the other thread than about this one. It's just a little bizarre that Josh would jump in here once a decade to aggressively defend attacks that haven't been made in 13 years.

I also can't presently make a knife, and if I did, I suspect it would look like one of the Jacobs' knives at the very best. But I'd also hope that if I'd been making knives for the best part of fifty years, like their web site says they have been, or even the bare 13 years since they were last on Bladeforums, that my knives would have improved somewhat during that time. I can only assume that because that hasn't happened that they're content making the sort of knives currently on their past work page.

If that's so, then I won't judge a fellow for making an honest living, and it doesn't seem like their business practice is in question, but I also won't pretend he's making great knives.

But you're probably right, and I for one am going to let this go now.
 
Well seems like he has achieved his objective........who even knew they existed before this. No comments on the knives. :D
 
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This thread:

The seeming audacity of the OP'S intent and the poor quality shown, is FAR outweighed and counter-balanced by the wisdom and insight given to us by an elder statesman.

I'm learning far more by reading this, and it's not what I would have thought upon entering.

Thank you, Paul. I'm reminded of my favorite poem:

Have compassion for everyone you meet, even if they don’t want it.
What seems conceit, bad manners, or cynicism, is always a sign of things no ears have heard, no eyes have seen.
You do not know what wars are going on down there where the spirit meets the bone.

Miller Williams

Coop
 
mqqn said:
Welcome to the forum.

I can't recollect anyone disputing your knife making process or skills at least on this or the few forums I frequent.

It is nice that you and your father have something to share in common.

Your knives definitely have a style their own, and your scale treatments are unique as well.

I wish you luck with your knife making, I am sure you can glean a lot of information on this forum if you so choose.

I would, as friendly advice, make an attempt to be more explanatory and less confrontational, as your post here leaves some questions as to your intent and will no doubt bring out the wanna-be comedians.

best

mqqn
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^ Infinite kindness, & a perfect example why I feel you're one of the classiest gentlemen on this forum! :thumbup:


banksy said:
Comparing Mr Jacobs to serial killers is a bit of a stretch.

As far as I know his endeavours are not causing any harm to anyone.
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^ That was without a doubt, one of thee more ridiculously idiotic things, I've read since becoming a member here! :rolleyes:


sheathmaker said:
I rarely post in a thread like this a second time, because I generally say all I want to in the the first post. This second post is not so much about Mr. Jacobs as it is about some of the posts and logic (or lack thereof) demonstrated in this thread.

Madcap stated (and I paraphrase) that "most of the members who participate here are NOT part of his target demographic". I think that is a true and factual statement. If you agree then I have to question.... why this is even a point of discussion, since anyone who is now, or would become a member because of their interests, would not be a person who would normally be interested in his knives. Therefore, is this not kind of like "preaching to the choir"?

Next, I began to wonder, since I cannot make a knife, (design, grind and finish), just how great the novice makers, who are so quick to detract, would fare if they had the intestinal fortitude to post their work and subject themselves to the criticism??? (Making a wooden knife doesn't count).

Finally, The Jacobs, have not and do not post regularly on Blade Forums and there has been no overt attempt that I can find to advertise or attempt to attract business using Blade Forums. This kind of reminds me of the old "if it did not happen on Blade forums there is no deal and not our problem" that so many paraphrase from time to time.

It may be time to look inside your collective selves and let this sleeping dog lie.

With respect,

Paul
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I couldn't agree more, Paul! :thumbup: :thumbup:


SharpByCoop said:
This thread:

The seeming audacity of the OP'S intent and the poor quality shown, is FAR outweighed and counter-balanced by the wisdom and insight given to us by an elder statesman.

I'm learning far more by reading this, and it's not what I would have thought upon entering.

Thank you, Paul. I'm reminded of my favorite poem:

Have compassion for everyone you meet, even if they don’t want it.
What seems conceit, bad manners, or cynicism, is always a sign of things no ears have heard, no eyes have seen.
You do not know what wars are going on down there where the spirit meets the bone.

Miller Williams

Coop
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^ Excellent statement, Coop. Awesome poem! :thumbup:


Some of the poster's here, should spend some time and look in a mirror. I personally think that it's a wonderful thing; a father and a son enjoying/sharing their passion together. I'm quite certain that they don't have a moment of regret, would change a thing, or a knife...

I'd like to see how some of these bandwagon warrior's here would feel, if member's here were making these type of comment's about THEIR father, or THEIR brother, or their livelihood?!?!
 
You know it has to be an epic thread to bring me out of retirement. Holy crap that is some bad grinding. CM's early work looked better than this crap
 
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