The " Roosters " are crowing for the " Farmers"

JL you ask some very hard questions,but I'll see what I can do.One set will be for the "rooster comb" rendition and one for the original traditional farmers jack.Aspects of each are different.The rooster comb is fairly easy. Ken Erickson's pattern of the checkered ivory knife embodies about all of my favorite qualities.One thing I would have different on other handles(non checkered),is a little longer bar shield.Thin,as is but a little longer,kinda like the Clements knives.

I'll get the other later.I pretty much have the blades picked out,frames and bolsters I must look over again.

I hope you catch a lazy 8' marlin,if you get my drift.I grin great big.
 
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wlfryjr said:
Jamie,I know you like 'em too.
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Lyle, you think? ;)
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blademan 13 said:
Lyle, you think? ;)
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Oh, my-- would you look at that!

-- Lyle, thank you for continuing to show us your beauties, demonstrating how different features inform the pattern and allowing us to see for ourselves (as best we can from a distance*) how the various elements work together to set off each example.

I'll also echo again the praise for the GEC #38s, with my continued gratitude for your heart and eye in helping it come into being. I know I'm repeating myself, but I had expected to respect my Farmer's Jack-- not to love it.

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Silly me.

~ P.

*Though of course I am eagerly hoping to view some of these in person, again! :D
 
Jamie and Sarah. I grin...broadly.

These are all the "traditional style farmers jacks". I couldn't hardly have magically envisioned a better "rooster comb" than the one Ken made for me.As I said,except for the shield on uncheckered handles.

OK JL hear goes.

Pruning blade .

This Remington shows the proportional aspect I like,although in person it is more robust than the NYK made for Hibbard Spencer Bartlett (OVB Our Very Best) on the left below.

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Either of these but the NYK HSB OVB on the left,with the little swelled end (and the extended point) gives it that little extra.The Ulster on the right has a very nice blade too.The pruning blade in the Wostenholm I will show also has a great blade and one of my favorite frames.

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The spey.

These show the best look to me,being made without a catchbit.having a nice swedge on a heavy spey. The Cattaraugus' cut on the spline being less at the tip,which I like,but the Wester Bros is good.The Ulster in the last picture shows the type of spey that was typical for all the very early ones.The Ulster is probably from the 1890s. I would would not abject to any of the three shown .

Cattaraugus

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Wester Bros

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Ulster

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The frames and bolsters.

This Wostenholm's frame and bolsters are great,maybe my favorite,but this is tough. A little more manly than the NYK I'll show. As said before,4" is the typical length of these,with little exception.

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The NYK made frame and bolsters.This knife has a unique spey that the 38s were somewhat patterned after.I really like it's uniqueness and would like one like this sometime also.It shows the pruning blade,but not as easily seen are the nuances of it,as stated above.

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Regarding the bolsters. the Wostenholm and the NYK are very similar.The added threads that Ken Erickson did on mine made the bolsters special. The rat tail being a little less than the normal traditional,except Schrades,who used a thin rat tail.

Best I could do JL,this is kinda like picking which of your children you like best.
 
pertinux said:
Oh, my-- would you look at that!

-- Lyle, thank you for continuing to show us your beauties, demonstrating how different features inform the pattern and allowing us to see for ourselves (as best we can from a distance*) how the various elements work together to set off each example.

I'll also echo again the praise for the GEC #38s, with my continued gratitude for your heart and eye in helping it come into being. I know I'm repeating myself, but I had expected to respect my Farmer's Jack-- not to love it.

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Silly me.

~ P.

*Though of course I am eagerly hoping to view some of these in person, again! :D
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Sarah, BUT they ARE sooo loveable. Who woulda thunk it? :D

Best regards

Robin
 
JL,
This same old Ulster shown above is hard for me not to include in all aspects.For some reason I like this frame ,it's about the same as the NYK,maybe just a little sturdier at the small end.The NYK just looks a little more petite.I really like everything about this one.

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Wow Lyle, the highlight for me tonight was seeing part of your outstanding collection!!!
 
Another question here Lyall Sir.

I ask this to learn so could you help me please.....

The A.L.M Celluloid. I could never understand just exactly the difference between normal Celluloid and French Ivory- now PLEASE forgive me if I am wrong- as I don't mind being corrected or taught- does French Ivory have actual ground remnants of real Ivory - and the powdered Ivory is actually mixed in with the Celluloud mixture to then give the effect as French Ivory- is that right?

When I look at the I*XL Celluloud compared to the Remington there is a world of difference - I would have guessed the I*XL as Celluloud being the more yellow- Green colouring and the Remington the richness of French Ivory.
Wonderful knives ( once again) just amazing.

Thanks in advance Lyall.
Duncan.
 
It's just all celluloid Duncan,I think pretty much the same chemical composition,different dying in their make up. I first saw the Remington a few years ago ,I remembered it as lighter than the normal french ivory.I believe that some are whiter than yellow.The "French ivory" just "seems" more stable ,for some reason,than others.

The scanner sometimes picks the light up differently also.

I would like to know if anyone has ever seen the old french ivory out gas?? I have never seen or heard of it myself.
 
Campbellclanman said:
I could never understand just exactly the difference between normal Celluloid and French Ivory-
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"French Ivory" is celluloid which has been specifically pigmented to resemble ivory.

A lot of nice things were made out of French ivory, not just knife handles. I have a fine box such as ladies would keep their hair implements in. It belonged to my grandmother and dates from the early part of the last century.
 
knarfeng said:
"French Ivory" is celluloid which has been specifically pigmented to resemble ivory.

A lot of nice things were made out of French ivory, not just knife handles. I have a fine box such as ladies would keep their hair implements in. It belonged to my grandmother and dates from the early part of the last century.
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Frank's right,combs ,brushes,mirrors,umbrella and other various handles,canes,etc. were all made from the ivory colored celluloid (French ivory).

But ,I've read the inspiration was something to replace natural ivory billiard balls (cue balls I guess).


Thank you JD.I only have what I am keeping,but they are some moving around,an ebony is on the big auction.Some GEC dealers have a couple.
 
Pipeman said:
I was using a stropboard I made with a curved surface until a friend dropped by with a massive ceramic chefs steel sized rod, an inch in diameter and with a soft feel to the surface. It was perfect and got it shaving sharp with a few licks. I have to find one.

Best regards

Robin
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hey buddy,let me know when and if you find one of those ceramic rods you're talkin bout....you have
my email......how many of this pattern do you have now?.....
jd
 
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