The " Roosters " are crowing for the " Farmers"

Augie said:
Added one more this week, a mint condition later Wostenholm.


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Splendid example, Augie!! Your growing a fine collection:thumbup: I love to see your harvest
 
Phil, I'm sorry for not commenting on your nice Wostenholm. I had thought I had bought those two knives(price was set and I agreed to it) until I saw the picture of them on the exchange; and the Wostenholm sold.:confused: Kinda shocked,and put off.

Robb those are some beautiful handles on your .38s.

John ,that Wostenholm is very nice,as I said elsewhere,I'd like to trade you for that one.:)

Nice Titusvilles being shown. They were made by Queen in 2009(100 of each supposedly). There are 6 handle variations ( stag, fire oak,green wormgrove,winterbottom,pearl,and mastodon ivory). One steel variation in stag,a stag ATS34,differentiated by the ATS34 shield. I am still looking for a nice mastodon ivory.:)

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These were patterned from the top knife in this catalog cut(From the picture only,they did not have any examples,they are rare.;):) ) It was in a 2001 copy of Collector Knives,in the Schrade section.(The actual knife is shown in post #171 in this thread)

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Nice Robin,you really are on a roll.I'd like to see that Henckels open.:)
 
Thank you to Lyle and all who post on this thread.

My interest in these knives started here in this thread and all the great photos and information posted. Absolutely beautiful knives. I have five of the SFOs Lyle and Charlie did through GEC and one is with me whenever I am home and frequently when I'm out. A few months ago I had never even heard of this pattern!

 
Dean, they are rare ,as horticulturalists were not the prevalent customers of the knife industry.

And for some reason they are even harder to come by now!:)
 
Here is a very interesting knife that kinda fits. I bought the FJs and the Grafting/budding knives from Kootenay Joe, this Hugo Koller was a gift. Thanks so much my friend. I'll post the other two Grafters with the Koller.
I also posted pics of the Henckels FJ with open blades in my previous post.
Best regards

Robin


 
Pipeman said:
Here is a very interesting knife that kinda fits. I bought the FJs and the Grafting/budding knives from Kootenay Joe, this Hugo Koller was a gift. Thanks so much my friend. I'll post the other two Grafters with the Koller.
I also posted pics of the Henckels FJ with open blades in my previous post.
Best regards

Robin


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Robin I saw this knife on the budding thread and immediately tried to buy it. Too late,I was told.Congrats that is a great knife.:cool::cool::cool:
 
Wonderful Thread on Wonderful knives Lyle, Robin - that Budding knife of Hug Koller's is just a fantastic knife lovely knives Gentleman!
 
I believe this is a rare one,a hyperbole when speaking of this pattern.I grin. Ahh,The Old West. Interesting knife and more colorful company history.

Old Texas stamps are pretty rare.

Krakauer,Zork & Moye's Suc.'s El Paso Texas. Goins says Soc's,but stamps say Suc.'s. c 1895-1914 . Suc.'s meaning Successors. 4"( again, typical for this pattern) stamped on all blades,as with all old knives.

I'm fairly certain it is a Challenge made knife.Shield and frame match.I also suspect an ethnic relationship between Challege and this Company.

The 1897-98 San Antonio City Directory lists the company at 114-16 West Commerce with A. & M. Krakauer, G. Zork, and E. Moye as proprietors. This wholesale and retail company, which specialized in hardware and sporting goods, began in San Antonio but was far better known in El Paso with a main branch in Chihuahua, Mexico. Many Colt revolvers were shipped to the main El Paso store for distribution elsewhere. The company announced in the Oct 3, 1897 San Antonio Light that their entire stock was being sold “at cost” so that their interests could be concentrated “in Mexican and Western houses”. In Jan 1911 the other partners bought out E. Moye’s interest for $300,000, and the company was then Krakauer Zork & Moye Successors.


Also see:
https://books.google.com/books?id=y...nepage&q=krakauer zork & moye company&f=false

Interesting side notes:

They were etched "Krack-A-Jack",which is where Bob Roark and Charlie Dorton got their etch for the 2010 cotton sampler they SPOed from GEC.Bob told me Charlie Dorton found it in the Goins description and they used it.

This company came under Senate investigation during the Mexican Revolution ,accused of selling arms and munitions to the rebels.You can read the transcript of the Sept 7, 1912 Senate Subcomittee on Forgeign Relations here:

https://books.google.com/books?id=k...q=Krakauer,Zork,Moye's and Successors&f=false

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No catch bit on any of these, the same as all of the other older ones Robin.I checked my collection and none had catch bits except the Schrades,the swell center Catt.,what I call rooster combs (with the flat blades and semi-spud),and other newer ones.

The first catch bit on one I've seen is on a WWI era Camillus with flat blades and the modified spey.

Here is a comparison of the K Z M & Suc.s (top knife),and two Challenge marked knives(bottom two).

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Nice find, Lyle! Looks in good shape, and sure looks like a Challenge from here!!
 
Thanks gentlemen and lady. I liked the history of this company almost as much as the knife.

Shields, Sarah,now that is a subject to be discussed more at lennngthhh.......
 
Here's a nice comparison shot of an old Utica next to an Orchard Gem that I used for a few months. Great jigging and dying GEC is doing.

Best regards

Robin
 
1912 Stiletto



1915 Landers, Frary & Clark


1929 Shapleigh


1930 Remington


1928 Wyeth Shield Brand


1913 Wostenholm IXL




1913 Watauga


1913 Hibbard Spencer Bartlett (import...Wostenholm IXL)


1913 Hibbard Spencer Bartlett (domestic)


1918 Hibbard Spencer Bartlett
 
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