The thread jacking has got to end!

Guys I'm not directing anything at anybody. Not trying to offend anyone or start any dookie. As far as the boobies and bacon posts, I have posted some spectacularly sexy picture of naked chicks dripping in pork on here, and not always in the proper topics. As far as those pictures are concerned, I'm cool with it. Young boys need to see boobies. Kids that are too sheltered end up having an unnatural love for the family goat or something. Them seeing a nice pair of zobboes from time to time keeps them on track.

Harp247 said:
Anything else?
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Yeah, as a matter of fact. One other thing... it's smells like feet in here. If someone could do a good dusting with some Febreeze, I'd appreciate it. Oh wait... I think that's just my office, not the forum. Nevermind.
 
texastonydobbs said:
Brother your hyper sensitive... not you directly, directed at me and anyone else who has jacked a thread inthe past to the present brother...
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Probably so. I've been stressed to the point of unending headaches lately and quick to jump the gun on just about everything. I need a beach and a good supply Margaritas like you wouldn't believe. :)
 
One of the things that I like most about this forum is that we can discuss such a wide variety of topice and still stay "On Topic". Luckily, RAT Cutlery is about a lot more than just knives. There are enough RAT Cutlery Co. related topics that this forum stays interesting. Sure, a lot of the stuff could get posted in W&SS, but it's nice to have it here as well. There is no need to be offensive, or just plain ridiculous. Like I mentioned before, I don't mind off topic threads, but when I am at work and I look at a thread that is legit and get a picture of some girl with bacon covered boobs, it is a problem. Thanks for tightening things up!
 
Dylside said:
Right before I started this thread, I had clicked on a thread just started yesterday that had already gotten jacked both barrels and I no longer cared to look at it. Even though the jacking was on the decline, that just isn't enough. We need to nip this crap up. It doesn't need to slow down. It just needs to stop all together.
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Oh I wasn't in disagreement in the least. All the thread jacking made it very hard to start posting in this forum. From a newb point of view, it really looks like a clique, with a private joke, it really intimidates new people because nobody enjoys doing the foot in mouth after making a fool of themselves, and those threads have an excellent nack for doing just that to anyone that posts in them, and look like an ominous impending embarrassment for someone who doesn't get the joke to try to break into the forum by joining in.

So in a way thread jacking of the off topic kind, especially the bacon variety, really take the proverbial welcome mat off the porch.
 
No fingers are being pointed in this or any thread and if they do get pointed they'll get bitten off.

Tony, Jeff and I have tried to allow this forum to be self regulated to a point and obviously in the eyes of a few that's been a failure on our parts.

Tony and I don't take offense to any complaints and the fact that Jeff is in agreement tells me that the way we've been doing things isn't working.

The last thing I want to see is this forum slow down or get stuffy, it's become a family to me, but seeing newer members say that they've felt uncomfortable posting shows me that we need a change.

I'm 100% on board with anything that Jeff wants to see with this forum, same with anything Tony says. I'm still a junior mod here so I'll inforce any rules that my seniors put in place.
 
Dylside said:
...Yeah, as a matter of fact. One other thing... it's smells like feet in here. If someone could do a good dusting with some Febreeze, I'd appreciate it. Oh wait... I think that's just my office, not the forum. Nevermind.
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You hijacking your own anti-hijacking thread?:D
 
:D I have an air tight alibi, sure I've done my fare share of hi-jacking (Which I'll cut back on) but I haven't hi-jacked a thread in the Rat sub in what seems like weeks.
 
Just to say i really try not to be judgmental, if a forum is set up to be both for knives, and for playing, and for joking then I'm all for it. Maybe I rather spend my time elsewhere, but that doesn't mean to imply that a given forum is improper. It may simply be that the prevailing group dynamic isn't synergistic with my own feelings or actions.

So just because a question was posed, and i maybe had a different opinion than another, that doesn't mean it should change.
 
ron_m80 said:
Oh I wasn't in disagreement in the least. All the thread jacking made it very hard to start posting in this forum. From a newb point of view, it really looks like a clique, with a private joke, it really intimidates new people because nobody enjoys doing the foot in mouth after making a fool of themselves, and those threads have an excellent nack for doing just that to anyone that posts in them, and look like an ominous impending embarrassment for someone who doesn't get the joke to try to break into the forum by joining in.
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How very well said. It is hard for those that have several thousand posts to think that anyone has something worth saying about the subject they love. And let's face it; these places do become a clique based on the history the most frequent posters build with one another.

Over the last 15 years I have belonged to several other forums, and have several thousands of posts behind me that reflect my personal interests as well professional.

There are parts of bladeforums that are no less than fantastic, great folks that are knowledgeable and generous to a fault with their help.

I haven't read this forum long as I just discovered the bladeforums site about this time last year and joined about six months after that. So I don't know the glory days.

To me, this subforum has always looked like the college bad boy fraternity of the site, the admission price just being a RAT owner. On other forums as well as other sites it is known for that as well.

R.A.T. said:
I'M IN FULL, 100% AGREEMENT! I'm getting to where I rarely look at all the threads because they are so screwed up.
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Seriously... from the RAT guys themselves about their own personalized forum? How screwed up is that?

There are posts I have read on this site that mention the fact they won't buy a RAT knife simply because the don't like the RAT culture they see here. Their loss, no doubt. But from the outside looking in, this is it's own little tight knit club.

Robert
 
midnight flyer said:
How very well said. It is hard for those that have several thousand posts to think that anyone has something worth saying about the subject they love. And let's face it; these places do become a clique based on the history the most frequent posters build with one another.

Over the last 15 years I have belonged to several other forums, and have several thousands of posts behind me that reflect my personal interests as well professional.

There are parts of bladeforums that are no less than fantastic, great folks that are knowledgeable and generous to a fault with their help.

I haven't read this forum long as I just discovered the bladeforums site about this time last year and joined about six months after that. So I don't know the glory days.

To me, this subforum has always looked like the college bad boy fraternity of the site, the admission price just being a RAT owner. On other forums as well as other sites it is known for that as well.



Seriously... from the RAT guys themselves about their own personalized forum? How screwed up is that?

There are posts I have read on this site that mention the fact they won't buy a RAT knife simply because the don't like the RAT culture they see here. Their loss, no doubt. But from the outside looking in, this is it's own little tight knit club.

Robert
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I am afraid I am gonna have to politely disagree with you....I have only been a member here for a couple of months....I like most came here to learn info on a RAT product......What I found was a community of friendly people who welcomed me in with open arms....the cost of admission here is not owning a rat product but a simple 25 posts just to show your interest is in the forum and not just the freebies that are graciously donated by RAT and their vendors as well as the members give aways. We all from time to time have a nack for pushing the issue when we know we can......Well now we know we can't and I believe the mods when they say it is time to tighten up.....Anyway not trying to piss you off in fact I think you ought to hang around more and maybe you might see the side of this camp that I do.....Drew
 
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To me, this subforum has always looked like the college bad boy fraternity of the site, the admission price just being a RAT owner. On other forums as well as other sites it is known for that as well.
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I disagree with you on that point. They have not looked closed off and exclusive like fraternal brotherhood, i think you may have confused them with another manufacturer possibly (if you are not confused than maybe recall a little anecdote, of not looking to the splinter in the finger when there exists a timber in an others eye). I don't mind you quoting me, but i feel that with all there is on the web, implying that RAT cutlery forums is exclusive or stand-offish is too much.
 
midnight flyer said:
How very well said. It is hard for those that have several thousand posts to think that anyone has something worth saying about the subject they love. And let's face it; these places do become a clique based on the history the most frequent posters build with one another.

Over the last 15 years I have belonged to several other forums, and have several thousands of posts behind me that reflect my personal interests as well professional.

There are parts of bladeforums that are no less than fantastic, great folks that are knowledgeable and generous to a fault with their help.

I haven't read this forum long as I just discovered the bladeforums site about this time last year and joined about six months after that. So I don't know the glory days.

To me, this subforum has always looked like the college bad boy fraternity of the site, the admission price just being a RAT owner. On other forums as well as other sites it is known for that as well.



Seriously... from the RAT guys themselves about their own personalized forum? How screwed up is that?

There are posts I have read on this site that mention the fact they won't buy a RAT knife simply because the don't like the RAT culture they see here. Their loss, no doubt. But from the outside looking in, this is it's own little tight knit club.

Robert
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I have to not so politely disagree with you.

For every one person like you who was somehow made to feel uncomfortable here:confused: There are a dozen who are welcomed with open arms and have their questions answered in a timely manner. Alot of them have stuck around and are regular contributors. A vast number of our regular posters got their start on BF right here in the RAT forum and still check in here regularly.

As for this forum having a bad reputation on other sites, links or it didn't happen. Same with people claiming they'll never buy a RAT product because of this forum. Prove it.

As for taking Jeff's own words out of context as you chose too, he was discussing the fact that alot of threads go off topic and get filled with idle banter, thus the screwed up comment.

Clicky..... Perhaps. We are a tight knit bunch, I won't deny that. But nobody who wants to jump in and participate is excluded unless they either exclude themselves or frankly have issues fitting into a simple group dynamic.

People from all walks find this to be a welcoming and friendly place to hang around and Tony, Jeff and myself have worked hard to accomplish that.

Yes, there are some random people who were run out of here for various reasons but as far as I'm concerned they all deserved it.
 
shotgunner11 said:
Clicky..... Perhaps. We are a tight knit bunch, I won't deny that. But nobody who wants to jump in and participate is excluded unless they either exclude themselves or frankly have issues fitting into a simple group dynamic.
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Fair point. I've noticed that most forums have a few regulars who keep the forum moving. That core of regulars can seem like a clique, but 'seem' is the operative word. I found the RC forum to be particularly welcoming, and so I keep coming back.

I do appreciate Dylside's call to self-governance in an effort preserve respect for other members' voices and promote useful discourse. It's all good, and none of this should be taken too seriously. Life's too short.
 
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Eh not to rain on the parade, but I'm going to call BS on the members that say they are intimidated. That has something to do with you, not the community. The RC community, this sub-forum, is not the problem. There is a general term for individuals that don't have the backbone to post on forums and that's a lurker. The RC community is extremely friendly and accommodating to new members. I agree that the hijacking and constant off topic threads was getting a little out of line. I admit I, along with others, aided in a few OT posts, but I didn't keep at it. Call this forum a clique or a frat or whatever, but it's a community (pretty nice one at that).

midnight flyer said:
To me, this subforum has always looked like the college bad boy fraternity of the site, the admission price just being a RAT owner. On other forums as well as other sites it is known for that as well.



Seriously... from the RAT guys themselves about their own personalized forum? How screwed up is that?

There are posts I have read on this site that mention the fact they won't buy a RAT knife simply because the don't like the RAT culture they see here. Their loss, no doubt. But from the outside looking in, this is it's own little tight knit club.

Robert
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If that's how you interpret the forum that's pretty sad. I'd also like to see these posts that you mention, but I'm going out on a limb to say you pulled it out of your ---.
 
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Gentlemen of RAT:

When I posted, I can only say that my head was not where it should have been. I picked up the OP in the new threads page, and for some dumb reason didn't look to see that it was actually posted IN the RAT forum, for the RAT sub members, not out there for the general populace.

I have read a lot of great posts on your sub forum, information that couldn't otherwise be obtained any other way than to buy the knives and test them myself. Tests, warranty experiences, product opinions, etc., all covered here in detail about the RAT products you couldn't get anywhere else.

My casual observations have obviously hit a chord. Once I started to see the beginnings of personal character attacks as well as suggestions that I might not understand how to fit into a group setting, I realized how sensitive an issue this is here.

With that in mind, I didn't mean to offend you guys. Seriously. My experience in all forums (woodworking, professional finishing, etc.) are that folks come and go, participate and lurk, all on different levels. The folks that participate (post) the most set the tone for the casual reader to see. The tone and dynamics of forums change with the people. My observation is that any forum or group that is on track can go off, and any that is off can get back on. So in the end to me, it isn't all that big a deal.

I am not a sh*t disturber. Had I realized exactly where this post was going, namely, the RAT forum (again, think massive brain fart) I certainly would have chosen my words more carefully. NO ONE likes to have a stranger come into their house and say unpleasant things, or even things they don't agree with, me included.

My observations were made in the most casual way, based on my occasional views of the forum.

So to be plain, for anyone that I offended, I apologize. It was absolutely not my intent to do so.

Robert
 
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