The truth about Fällkniven S1 Pro

Mr opinionated said:
Thank you for the lesson and clarification. I do find MCUSTA knives to be very attractive.
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I have two MCustas both in VG10 Damascus. MCustas tend to be very good looking and I think offer a good product for the price. They recently introduced powder steel blades (SG2) but unfortunately I am not as much into liner locks as I use to be.
 
I personally prefer the symmetry of a linerlock. Also, there is no lock issues with a liner lock as long as its used properly! Its not a fixed blade. However, if I was in a life and death situation I'd still use it for whatever I needed to. Most makers that make linerlocks have been doing so to good effect for a sizable amount of time! At least all of mine are! Besides that's why I carry multiple knives! Today's carry below!!!
 

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I’m a firm believer in a Axe/Hatchet. I purchased a GB Small forest axe before I knew how popular they are.
However, that Is the exact reason for my Fallkniven A1x recent purchase. I wanted a small and slender wood processing item, able to make shelter. The Robust Convex edge was what I wanted. I can safely process wood and the Bigger axe stays in a larger backpack. I take the A1x every day in my pack as I travel far from home. I also carry a Victorinox And a F1.
 
Lnd Crzr said:
I’m a firm believer in a Axe/Hatchet. I purchased a GB Small forest axe before I knew how popular they are.
However, that Is the exact reason for my Fallkniven A1x recent purchase. I wanted a small and slender wood processing item, able to make shelter. The Robust Convex edge was what I wanted. I can safely process wood and the Bigger axe stays in a larger backpack. I take the A1x every day in my pack as I travel far from home. I also carry a Victorinox And a F1.
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I like A1 myself.
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Are you sure? Because if you read some post in this thread- They are about as durable as a tin can
 
Those DBK guys are funny and have good videos- Yet they really test the knives they talk about. They hold Fallkniven in high enough regard to promote the quality of the knives. If Fallkniven was junk, I don’t believe they would be saying much of anything about them
 
I only have one FK knife, a black A1; though I haven't used it (in years) I like it. FK makes some good looking knives and I do not think their knives or the company is bad. That being said, they do seem a bit pricey for what you get, the warranty seems to be a bit restrictive and the whole sending it to Sweden thing doesn't give me the warm and fuzzy.

I like value and utility and I'm a carbon streel fan anyways. ESSE and Becker (I really like Beckers) are heard to beat ... and a beating they will take.

If I'm going to go with a rubber handled field knife (not my first choice for extended use sessions) I would grab a Cold Steel SRK in a moment. I have not had a bit of trouble with any of the SRKs I have even though they don't get the use and abuse that my Becker knives get.

I can get a stainless steel SRK for much less than a FK of similar size . I can get a couple or more carbon steel SRKs for the price of a FK of similar size; I would take a Becker or two over either for most "survival" type uses.

Batoning wood? Sure, a hatchet or axe is better but this is about knives. If you take a BK2 or BK9, you could baton a car with it - in fact, exactly that has been done ... look it up.

I'm not bashing FK, but, from a value standpoint, it is what it is and besides, I'm a carbon steel guy anyway.
 
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KenHash said:
It appears that you have "something" against Fallkniven. Don't know exactly what or why. And your statement that "not all con jobs leave people unsatisfied" is perplexing. If people are not dissatisfied, where is the "con"?
I have already agreed with you quite some time ago that they really should put the COO on their knives so as not to appear even remotely "deceptive". And while I don't feel as strongly as you about it, perhaps Fallkniven should clearly state where and by whom their knives are made. Although I have my doubts that every other Knife company is doing that, in which case that would be holding only Fallkniven to a standard while exempting everyone else.
However, I have found that about the only people who do not know that Fallkniven Knives are made in Japan are people who don't know anything about knives, period.

"Cowry X: An extreme powder steel developed by Mr. Ichiro Hattori"
Steel - Fällkniven (fallkniven.se)

"Production has been moved to Seki Japan since Fällkniven replaced ATS34 steel with VG-10 and 3G (SPGS-powder steel) core laminates, in its products. Hattori manufactures all of their fixed blades, and Moki manufactures their folders."
Fällkniven - Wikipedia

I disagree with your view that Fallkniven is pulling a "con job". They are having their knives manufactured by two of the best and respected makers in Seki, both with a long history. That is in fact a major reason why Fallknivens are so expensive.
If they (or any Knife Co) were selling knives without COO, and charging the kind of prices that Fallkniven does, and it turned out that they were actually being manufactured for dirt cheap in places like China or Pakistan, then I would agree that it is a "Con job".
As for warranty issues, I really don't see the relevance to the question of "deception" or "con job".
The reality is that there are an enormous number of Fallknivens in the world owned and used by many people. And most are obviously satisfied. Every Knife brand will have the occasional lemon, be it Fallkniven, Randall or Ontario or whatever. But the customers of these knives are for the most part satisfied which is why they continue to remain in business.

A very simple solution for you is just "don't buy a Fallkniven", if you honestly believe it's a "con".
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I believe it's a deliberate con. The warranty is part of the total con, i.e. way too restrictive for the industry and price. Their Swedish-designed folders are obviously Moki designs. It's a slick con.

If you want other examples of a good con, look at Bos heat treat, the man left Buck 10 years ago. Look at CRK, Chris Reeve hasn't been seen in 5 years, but their new models supposedly have his input. VW's con job on emissions blew up in their face to the tune of $20billion. No I won't buy a VW or an Audi. I own CRK knives from when Chris worked there. My Bos heat treated knives come from when he supervised the heat treat.
 
Brownshorts, What are you talking about? Cars or Fallkniven. You said “ This thread isn’t about Randall, it’s about Fallkniven” when I compared a knife company to the Fallkniven knife company.
Now your talking about the Vw car company?

Definitely not the sharpest knife of the bunch on this forum.
 
Every company has a Lemon- I think that is what this thread is really all about. Cars/knives/golf clubs.... Lemons exist.
 
OMG please. Stop lol :D. This thread's going from funny and cute to down right dumb and lame :thumbsdown:.
Brownshoe is not going to change his mind and neither are you or me. End of story.
To the OP of this post. The Truth of Fallkniven knives as your opening inflamatory header. Is that your thread sucks. And your post only serves to breed loss of IQ points. And cause needless blame on companies and yet you have provided no proof of your claims. This thread of the OP's seriously needs to be locked down as it does not contribute anything helpful to members.:thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
In simple terms. You got any proof of your claims knifegrabber?
Or are you full of hot air and :poop:?
It looks like the OP disappeared into the sunset. Time to shut this thread down.
 
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Mr opinionated said:
OMG please. Stop lol :D. This thread's going from funny and cute to down right dumb and lame :thumbsdown:.
Brownshoe is not going to change his mind and neither are you or me. End of story.
To the OP of this post. The Truth of Fallkniven knives as your opening inflamatory header. Is that your thread sucks. And your post only serves to breed loss of IQ points. And cause needless blame on companies and yet you have provided no proof of your claims. This thread of the OP's seriously needs to be locked down as it does not contribute anything helpful to members.:thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
In simple terms. You got any proof of your claims knifegrabber?
Or are you full of hot air and :poop:?
It looks like the OP disappeared into the sunset. Time to shut this thread down.
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Not just yet, it is however time to shut you down from posting in this thread any further.

You have numerous posts scattered throughout BF's that are antagonizing/trolling in nature, the quote above is a perfect example... just my opinion but you're becoming a major pain in the ass that's neither worth the time nor trouble.
 
If I was in anyway Not Respectful to the forum, I apologize. When a heated debate on a subject occurs, I try to provide Information, as I did. I respect the Forum and most certainly try Not to be involved in Debates with mud slinging.
I apologize if that is how I came off or if I did not participate Properly.
 
brownshoe said:
I believe it's a deliberate con. The warranty is part of the total con, i.e. way too restrictive for the industry and price. Their Swedish-designed folders are obviously Moki designs. It's a slick con.

If you want other examples of a good con, look at Bos heat treat, the man left Buck 10 years ago. Look at CRK, Chris Reeve hasn't been seen in 5 years, but their new models supposedly have his input. VW's con job on emissions blew up in their face to the tune of $20billion. No I won't buy a VW or an Audi. I own CRK knives from when Chris worked there. My Bos heat treated knives come from when he supervised the heat treat.
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You are free to believe the moon is made of Cheese if you want. I'm not going to bother arguing. As I've already said, if you believe FK is a "con" just don't buy any of their products. As for FK's folders they are designed by FK and manufactured by Moki. Moki follows traditional designs and only deviates when doing OEM for other designs, example: Lakota, William-Henry, Al Mar. To this date Moki doesn't even offer one model that even has thumb studs. To claim FK's folders are "Moki designs" is nonsense.

You cite many instances of a "con" involving other knife makers and even an auto manufacturer. You may have many legitimate claims and reasons to be dissatisfied with these companies, but the term "con" would a very difficult one to prove in any Court of Law. There are already plenty of folks who would not buy an FK, with reasons ranging from high price to personal preference. But I doubt any of them would cite a "con" as a reason.
 
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