there is a green flipping frenzy going on

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PeterPHWS said:
I wonder what the $300 flip price does to Sal and Eric in terms of getting them thinking about the price point for their knives?

They are bound to consider the prospect that they could be selling certain models for an awful lot more? It's only logical to do so.

The intrinsic value of the Sprint Run knives may well see the factory cost of Sprint runs go up .... or the price from Knife Works and other Sprint run dealers?

Unlike the guys speculating on a free knife because they can sell one and have one for free ... these guys are making a living at what they do and the prospect of a better living has to be attractive. Even if it simply cuts down on the days you need to work and stay at the same income ...
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Yes. Logic would indicate that a manufacture should take what their products sell for on the open market into consideration when setting their prices. Why some of them don't do that is a mystery to me. It's also a gift to those who have the willingness and resources to take advantage of it.

If a manufacturer doesn't have the common sense to sell their products for what people are willing to pay for them, the market will gladly take care of that for them.
 
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I paid 140 something for mine shipped, like I said above I wanted to keep the knife, but situations came up and my knives are the first thing that haft to go , I was the first person to sell one on the exchange I believe, I put what i thought was a fair price for the knife considering availability, the blade steel etc. I didn't want to take advantage of anyone, So i put up what I thought was a fair price, I'm not one of those people who bought 2 and sold one for double the cost to get a free knife, my knife sold in 6 minutes and I removed the price, once I removed the price you wouldn't believe how many emails i got from people with these knives asking me what I sold mine for , I guess they saw how fast mine sold and wanted to know how much more they could add to the price and it still sell. I ignored all of the emails except one , Which was from a member I had dealt with before, and he had fell on hard times, so i told him, After shipping etc. I made a little profit , If my buyer is ok with it I'll post my selling price. As I feel like I sold it at a fair price.
 
singularity35 said:
The price at which the manufacturer sells an item is pretty much a good indicator of intrinsic value plus markup.
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Yes, that's pretty much the starting point for me. I make it a general rule not to pay more for a product than the manufacturer says it's worth. If I am going to pay more than the manufacturer says it's worth, I ALWAYS do an opportunity cost calculation to make sure I'm not giving up a better product to buy it. Of course, that means I have to do my homework. But when I do, I find that more often than not, paying the uptick isn't worth it.
 
PeterPHWS said:
I wonder what the $300 flip price does to Sal and Eric in terms of getting them thinking about the price point for their knives?

They are bound to consider the prospect that they could be selling certain models for an awful lot more? It's only logical to do so.

The intrinsic value of the Sprint Run knives may well see the factory cost of Sprint runs go up .... or the price from Knife Works and other Sprint run dealers?

Unlike the guys speculating on a free knife because they can sell one and have one for free ... these guys are making a living at what they do and the prospect of a better living has to be attractive. Even if it simply cuts down on the days you need to work and stay at the same income ...

Or, on a better note for the wider customer base , it could mean that these steel combinations in the desired model become factory offerings. That would be cool :thumbup:
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Discussion, not argument. :) What you're saying seems right at first blush, but I'm not so sure. There have been endless angry or hostile posts about BBS's pricing of the blue M390 exclusive, which was below Spyderco's MSRP. A lot of people have expressed strong feelings about the knife being over-priced, and clearly its sales rate has been vastly slower than, say, the orange XHP and green 204P versions (although BBS has had enough demand over time to commission another run of that knife). So, without agreeing (or disagreeing) with you, I'd just say it's not so clear to me - there may be more price sensitivity than you'd otherwise guess here. :confused: :)
 
If you look for a positive side in the "flip" frenzy .... one of showing Spyderco where their most desirable models are ... and their ability to capitalise on it and make a bit more money if these were factory production runs ... then more power to the guys doing the flipping ... I am happy to wait for a production run offering.
 
I couldn't agree more. And that doesn't apply only to Spyderco, of course. There are so many incredible knives made by so many fabulous knifemakers that paying more for a knife than the manufacturer says it's worth just doesn't make sense . . . or at least it doesn't make sense to me. If anything, a buying frenzy is the very best reason I can think of to buy somebody else's knife!
 
bld522 said:
No. We have a Whine and Cheese forum for those who can't hold a civil conversation.
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Wrong. Wine and Cheese isn't just a place for people that can't hold a civil conversation.
I admit its not for everyone though, and some won't fare well there.

Most all that post there have civil conversations when in other forums, and I don't know any that post there that whines about pricing or anything else in the Manufacturers forums. It kinda keeps the whining in one place and keeps it out of the manufacturers forums. I know you won't hear me whining here about how others sell on BF.

IMO this is just a whine thread, but thats just my opinion. But by all means carry on with your "civil conversation" then.
Maybe ya'll can stop people from selling their knives at a markup. Selling at a markup is all this thread is about, or it started out that way anyway.
Good luck :thumbup:
 
Whine and cheese... I hung out there for a bit, had fun. Not for everyone though like Ken said thats for sure.
 
FCM415 said:
I am into plenty of knives, and as far as me being crazy busy on the exchange with limiteds, well let's see... Ive sold three CBCF's for $370 and two SHOTSHow Grips for $180 this month, less than how much most dealers sold em for. Thanks for bringing that up, it shows that not everyone is in it to make a fast buck.
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FM415 I have the green Para I promised you at cost right here on hand.Thank you for passing the 0560 CBCF to me.You are a good man.What comes around goes around.Please check your PM.
 
salmonkiller said:
FM415 I have the green Para I promised you at cost right here on hand.Thank you for passing the 0560 CBCF to me.You are a good man.What comes around goes around.Please check your PM.
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Woot woot! Coming through in the clutch!

Thanks brother, this wont be the last time we help each other out.
 
allen it is absolutely all right if you want to post what i paid for the knife. I consider myself fortunate to have been able to get one so quickly... and not outrageously over priced. so once again allen thanks. ps. I hope the pup is still doing ok! scott
 
bld522 said:
Yes, that's pretty much the starting point for me. I make it a general rule not to pay more for a product than the manufacturer says it's worth. If I am going to pay more than the manufacturer says it's worth, I ALWAYS do an opportunity cost calculation to make sure I'm not giving up a better product to buy it. Of course, that means I have to do my homework. But when I do, I find that more often than not, paying the uptick isn't worth it.
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Yep, that's why I never got the S90V ones because I missed the pre orders and I didn't like to pay the secondary market prices even when they were much lower than the prices these days.
 
Ken44 said:
Wine and Cheese isn't just a place for people that can't hold a civil conversation.
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Perhaps not. But there are enough of those who can't that it's not worth putting up with their drivel to try to get to the ones who can. I'd rather hang out over here if you don't mind. :)
 
netidolweb said:
Wish Spyderco repeat all PM2 sprint runs.....for CF S90V, Orange CTS XHP, Blue M390, Brown S35VN
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You've mixed exclusives, which have been and are being reordered, and sprints, which aren't and won't be. Extinct sprints: S90V, 20CP. Exclusives: XHP (one run), M390 (multiple runs), S35VN (appears to be multiple runs), 204P (probably one run).
 
Here's a thought: there are no green 204P flippers. (That's a discussion topic, not flame bait. ;) .) Rationale: can anyone really be said to be flipping a knife that was pre-ordered sixteen (16) (that's 1.33 YEARS) ago? :)
 
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