They are trying to ban pocket knives in Hawaii

Did someone say NRA?

They have become useless. I dropped my membership years ago because they have completely abandond my state and several others. It's great that some rancher in Texas can own an AR and carry a 45 long colt on his side, meanwhile it takes over 90 days in my state to get a pistol permit (even though the law states they have 30 days to issue or deny with cause) and when you do the pistol is pretty much useless while in the state.

NOBODY can get a CCW permit unless they are retired LEO and you have to show a firearms ID card to get ANY ammo, which is recordeed when you buy it.

We have a complete Assault weapons ban and the only time you can carry a firearm in your vehicle is to and from hunting and to and from the range. Gun and ammo locked in seperate compartments.

We can (and will) try, but realistically, it is only a matter of time.
 
Letters from his constituents would carry far more weight. We have members who live in Hawaii. We need for them to raise awareness of this issue to their fellow Hawaiians.

Emails from potential tourist dollars might be just as effective. I have already sent the good senator my thoughts on this bill and would hope others will follow up likewise.
 
I think the word has to be spread on the islands. There are so many outdoorsy people and hunting/fishing is so ingrained in so many people in Hawaii, natives and non-natives, that if they knew how they were going to be screwed I don't think they would let it happen.

I was in Kauai in April and saw dozens of pocket clips over the course of a week, as well as small sheath knives too.
 
Emails from potential tourist dollars might be just as effective. I have already sent the good senator my thoughts on this bill and would hope others will follow up likewise.

I agree about these emails. I was planning on doing some shore fishing on my next visit. If I catch a fish do I grab a rock and just bash it to bits and eat what's left? Or hope I fish near a local who will let me use their illegal knife?
 
Monkeys can be effective tools to separate victims from their valuables.
But, it's been found the smaller ones have to be armed and dressed to intensify the fright factor:p
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That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen!!!:D
 
Did someone say NRA?

They have become useless. I dropped my membership years ago because they have completely abandond my state and several others. It's great that some rancher in Texas can own an AR and carry a 45 long colt on his side, meanwhile it takes over 90 days in my state to get a pistol permit (even though the law states they have 30 days to issue or deny with cause) and when you do the pistol is pretty much useless while in the state.

NOBODY can get a CCW permit unless they are retired LEO and you have to show a firearms ID card to get ANY ammo, which is recordeed when you buy it.

We have a complete Assault weapons ban and the only time you can carry a firearm in your vehicle is to and from hunting and to and from the range. Gun and ammo locked in separate compartments.

We can (and will) try, but realistically, it is only a matter of time.

You folks in NJ keep electing the same corrupt people to run your lives and blame the NRA because they cannot deal with those you elect. Get active, organize yoiur friends and get some gun friendly people in office.
 
This bill is really worse than anything the UK has done, because it just outright makes folding knives illegal, unreal.
There is nothing saying any type of folder would be legal to even have inside your own home, in the bill! Ridiculous! You can be surrounded by long bladed kitchen knives in your own home and a pen knife is illegal?:rolleyes:
Maybe the dope that is trying to push this bill thinks he will start out to ban them all period and knows it won't happen, then hopes to get some laws passed, prohibiting types or carry? Who knows.
 
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2009/lists/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=126

If you look at the bill as it is written, there is a BR { By Request } after Ihara's name. This would suggest that Ihara presented the bill on the Behalf of a constituent, hopefully his office returns my email regarding just where Ihara stands on the issue. I'm pretty ticked, the last I knew Hawaii was still part of the US and my tax dollars do flow in that direction.
 
Amen brother. Becoming a politician automatically reduces the IQ by 40%

Passing a law to pacify the sheeple and get re-elected isn´t necessarily stupid. It would be if the politicians really believed that the law was necessary, but I think most of them know quite well that the laws are silly, they pass them anyway to be re-elected.

Stupid? No. Morally corrupt? You betcha.
 
I sent an email to the senator telling him how I feel and that my honeymoon wont be in Hawaii if this bill continues.
 
While NJ politicians are some of the most corrupt in the country, I defy you to show me a state that is really any different, Which one do you want to pick? Indiana? California?

The problem is they are ALL corrupt.

I am not BLAMING the NRA, I am saying they gave up on the very ones that needed it most. I do vote the right way, but I am one person. Where are have the NRA lobbies been for NJ over the last 30 years? We have had D's and R's in office. Can they not get laws passed? My opinion, they have their agenda now too and it doesn't always involve gun laws. $

NJ, NY, WI, IN and many other states need the NRA more than others, where are they?
 
cool it guys. i'm born and raised here, and this bill proposal will die in sub commitee. most bill's take years of submittal till a full vote. too many people here own and use guns/knives.

as for linking asians to liberal/pacifist, look at filipino's and their barong, japanese with tanto style, blah blah blah...................

here in hawaii, hunters have the right of way over hikers. go figure! don't see that much on the mainland.
 
With all due respect, I don't think someone's race or his being of non-European extraction has anything to do with this asinine proposal. Senator Ihara is probably 3rd generation Japanese-American and would be thoroughly American, with hardly any of his Japanese family roots having little or nothing to do with his thinking processes.
People do carry cultural predilections with them even down several generations. Years ago an anti-gun team of researchers at the University of Massachusetts did a five-year study for the Justice Department. At the end of it, everyone expected the results to be anti-gun. At the time I was working at the NRA and was assigned the task of contacting the chief researcher once the study broke. Wonder of wonders, the study could easily have been written by the NRA! In fact, when I called the professor, his first reaction was: "I was wondering when you guys would call."

The gist of the study was that cultural ties ran much deeper than anyone previously thought. In short, the violent crime rates of Japanese-Japanese were almost identical with Japanese-Americans. The same was true of white Anglo-Saxon protestants and Catholics in Europe and the U.S. And all this, irrespective of gun availability. "I still don't like guns," the professor told me. "The only difference is that if I now lived in a seamy neighborhood without adequate police protection, I would consider owning a gun for the protection of my family." But, living in Amherst, he added, he did not feel that need. He also said that Japanese-Americans actually had a slightly smaller violent crime tendency than Japanese-Japanese. Criminal justice systems, rates of incarceration, early release programs, etc., had more of an impact on a society's crime rates than the availability of guns, he said.

Interestingly, a noted constitutional scholar, Lawrence Tribes, said that despite whether Americans did or did not have a constitutional right to arms ownership (and he thought the 2nd Amendment granted that), it really didn't make a difference. What makes the difference, he added, is that Americans think they have a right to keep and bear arms, and so it really didn't matter in the long run what the Supreme Court said.

In Anglo-Saxon tradition, men would suffer death before giving up their weapons. Invaders found that it was often easier to just let them keep their weapons if conquered rather than trying to take them away. This cultural attitude played a key role in the views of our own founding fathers. Meanwhile, the cultural views of those who want to ban everything often go back generations. One noted Jewish advocate of arms ownership wondered why so many Jews would be for arms restrictions after what they suffered in Germany. Hitler, as well as any despot, knew the advantages of disarming subject peoples. Still, Jews in Israel have much different views of being armed than their American cousins.

Since the 2nd Amendment issue centers mostly around firearms, we sometimes forget that it includes knives and other bladed weapons. Fortunately, the Supreme Court, in the recent Washington, D.C., decision, has ruled that the 2nd Amendment is indeed an individual right.

Note: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so." — Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Tischegesprache Im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1942.
 
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