Thoughts on TwoSun knives

POCEH KOCEB said:
I personally find most of the Chinese companies that are sold on US sites to have really great manufacturing quality.
I'm not surprised, lot's of US companies gave them equipment and know-how long time ago, they already have experience and everything to produce good quality product.
Except the models that are colabs with US or other designers, to me most of the Chinese "original" models look all the same or completely pointless... Some of them are looking like they just
put together trendy materials and geometry, just for the fidgety target market here, in US. Here in US, simply because this is the largest market everyone is trying to cover with sales...

Two Sun are well executed from what I had chance to touch on some gun shows but I only like few models that make sense to me, the one I can think right now is the listed earlier in the thread TS121 and the one Amazon sells,
the TS 212. It's designed by a blogger ( I know this guy from IG) by the name Tiguas and I'll probably buy this knife, priced around $100, D2 steel. It should be a frame lock, but you can find it somewhere listed as "slipjoint" (?!)
I will never pay more than $150 for a Chinese knife of this type, I must like the geometry or find something very attractive to pay more money for it...

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Someone brought my attention to another company of this type - Miguron Knives. They have nicely organized front page, clearly listed where they manufacture their products and at least to me, their models don't look like knock offs
of known models but I don't follow too much so I could be mistaking. I think they have original designs... However, their prices too are too high, they ask for more of their knives $150-200+ and this is just too much for me for those knives.
Nothing against them, just I think they are overpriced.
Interestingly, their "Who we are " section hints that they can take large orders from other companies, I'd assume soon we will see another Microtech caliber company, moving some models to company as this one.
Anyway, I think they have couple models that worth checking, particularly the around $40 Velona flipper and around $190 Pagos front flipper pictured below, I personally like the blade shape, I'm sure the craftsmanship will be on par...

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I understand the US companies that outsource some of their models to a Chinese companies, there is lots of advantages in this f-ed up economic times for our country.
I think the cure for this would be few US companies with good CNC capacities, taking orders from US companies, basically copying the Chinese model, just locally here, in US.
I think this could be possible, there is lots of $$ in our economy, we already have the technology and material base, no shipping expenses to China and back for the product, I'm not economist in any way,
but I think this would give the Chinese run for the money and bring the prices to a bearable level, even so $200 for a decent all metal framelock with some CF inlays doesn't seems too bad these days...


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You raise many great points. Custom small shops can easily complete until they get bought up and added to the Conglomerate US Companies. Check out the holding company that owns most of the US Big Names.
 
stabman said:
The steel is made in the USA, and they make their own fasteners.
Not sure what point you think you are making.

By the way, I live in Canada, so this isn't a "USA! USA! USA!" post either, just so you know.
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That’s a bold claim, and I agree; if you are going to state that it should be substantiated.
 
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Twosun fit and finish is comparable to some of the best Taiwan makers, or anyone anywhere, imho.

Hardware is very high quality from what I've experienced.

I own a Vandal...it has tremendous ergos and an interesting design backstory. Locks up like Ft. Knox. I enjoy it a lot.

What can I say, I'm a sucker for textured Titanium + carbon fiber.

So I also bought a TS306...I never owned anything in M398 steel. I'm gonna give it a whirl. Everything about this model drips quality.

Since I'm a 60's & 70's kid, I've beat myself up a bit about enjoying and feeling pride of ownership in what would have amounted to contraband goods in my days gone by.

Still processing those feelings, but....damn....these blades are impressive:

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Does anybody know how to see all the twosun listings on ebay?
I can not see the lisings from China :(
 
For folks who own TwoSun knives with TC4 titanium handles -- as opposed to the more common, and more expensive, grade 5 -- do you notice any difference?

"It's softer" is a relative thing, and I've never handled a TC4 Ti knife.
 
Dadpool said:
For folks who own TwoSun knives with TC4 titanium handles -- as opposed to the more common, and more expensive, grade 5 -- do you notice any difference?

"It's softer" is a relative thing, and I've never handled a TC4 Ti knife.
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As far as I can tell, both of these are Ti-6Al-4V. I've actually seen it listed as TC4/GR5 so it may just be a naming convention.
 
Dadpool said:
For folks who own TwoSun knives with TC4 titanium handles -- as opposed to the more common, and more expensive, grade 5 -- do you notice any difference?

"It's softer" is a relative thing, and I've never handled a TC4 Ti knife.
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If there is I can't tell it. 🤷‍♂️

I'd compare it to stainless steel statistics. I think most users would never notice the difference <if there is any besides the naming convention Chronovore referenced>.

In a blind test I'd wager half of the average guys & gals couldn't tell the difference in usage between s30v and m390, much less the various alloys of Ti.
 
BTTLBRN said:
That’s a bold claim, and I agree; if you are going to state that it should be substantiated.
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To me you say US steel the iron ore comes from the US. The Steel market is a bit like Crude Oil. The Crucible product I bet is US but the D2 ground up likely comes from elsewhere. Not to mention made in the USA just means made in the North American Trade zone. It easily can be Mexico. Not to mention many budget options with good finish are farmed out to Taiwan, Japan, Slovenia, Ukraine, Czech Republic.
 
Smyles77 said:
To me you say US steel the iron ore comes from the US.
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Technically, the iron originated in the cores of ancient dead stars.
Guess we can't say any knives originate on Earth anymore.

"Iron is the most tightly bound nucleus in nature with a binding energy of 8.8 MeV per nucleon, and therefore the heaviest element that can be synthesized by the fusion of lighter nuclei in massive stars."

 
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Boombats said:
Whoa, scratch that- I guess they only made a short run and the prices are jacked up AF
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take a look on amazon, they have a lot of two suns for sale for reasonable prices, including several different button lock knives

whats cool too is that two sun makes other stuff as well and not just knives, they make some titanium flashlights, keychains, pens, self defense tools, prybars etc......
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Flashlights definitely looks nice but doesn't shine with some great features... I'd go with RovyVon before I get those, much better flashlight.
What is their association with Night Morning Design, both names are listed often.
Their Amazon sold folding dagger, model TS428 looks strangely close to the Russian Dagger Vendetta.

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POCEH KOCEB said:
Flashlights definitely looks nice but doesn't shine with some great features... I'd go with RovyVon before I get those, much better flashlight.
What is their association with Night Morning Design, both names are listed often.
Their Amazon sold folding dagger, model TS428 looks strangely close to the Russian Dagger Vendetta.

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the price of the flashlights are pretty low, not bad for price if you really like titanium or the design
 
I agree, no doubt about it, but in my case, I didn't really care about the looks of the titanium if the light isn't performing as some other in the similar price category and size.
In most cases, I like to put function over form, it's just me.
 
It's a little sad though not surprising to see some rather strong negativity towards products made in China.

Onto TwoSun knives, I caught the bug about two years ago and started out buying a few of their integral framelocks in M390 (TS100, TS66, TS65). It was unimaginable that high quality full sized titanium integral framelock folders with M390 blade could go for $200ish. I was skeptical at first and only got the TS100, which absolutely gave me all the confidence in the world about TwoSun knives. I then purchased TS88, TS165, and a bunch more. Today I own a total of 11 TwoSun knives, including a damascus kitchen knife. All have been impressive and I plan to buy more. I'm mostly interested in their higher end Ti+CF framelocks with 3.6"+ blade and preferably M390 steel or equivalent. I'm kinda happy that the availability of TwoSun knives in North America is so limited, otherwise I'd be spending a lot more money on them.

For a bit of background information. I started collecting knives about 2008. I've purchased the flagship models from most major US brands and quite a few higher end customs such as Tom Mayo, Tashi, Marfione, Emerson, Strider, Kit Carson, Todd Begg, Reese Weiland, etc. I've spent probably well over $200k on borderline useless edged toys and enjoyed most of them very much, but that doesn't seem to stop me from being attracted to the much much cheaper TwoSuns, especially after finding out what kind of utility I could get out of them. I'd recommend them to anybody, especially people who are on a budget.

If you flat out reject TwoSun knives for where it's made, that's perfectly fine, but if you are a true lover of edged tools, I personally think that you are missing out big time by not checking them out.

PS: in 2020 I went on a mission to try out a bunch of Chinese brands, Reate, WE, Artisan, Maxace, Real Steel, TwoSun, etc., TwoSun is not as fancy and well marketed as Reate and WE, but definitely offers the best bang for the buck.

PJ
 
pj551016 said:
It's a little sad though not surprising to see some rather strong negativity towards products made in China.

Onto TwoSun knives, I caught the bug about two years ago and started out buying a few of their integral framelocks in M390 (TS100, TS66, TS65). It was unimaginable that high quality full sized titanium integral framelock folders with M390 blade could go for $200ish. I was skeptical at first and only got the TS100, which absolutely gave me all the confidence in the world about TwoSun knives. I then purchased TS88, TS165, and a bunch more. Today I own a total of 11 TwoSun knives, including a damascus kitchen knife. All have been impressive and I plan to buy more. I'm mostly interested in their higher end Ti+CF framelocks with 3.6"+ blade and preferably M390 steel or equivalent. I'm kinda happy that the availability of TwoSun knives in North America is so limited, otherwise I'd be spending a lot more money on them.

For a bit of background information. I started collecting knives about 2008. I've purchased the flagship models from most major US brands and quite a few higher end customs such as Tom Mayo, Tashi, Marfione, Emerson, Strider, Kit Carson, Todd Begg, Reese Weiland, etc. I've spent probably well over $200k on borderline useless edged toys and enjoyed most of them very much, but that doesn't seem to stop me from being attracted to the much much cheaper TwoSuns, especially after finding out what kind of utility I could get out of them. I'd recommend them to anybody, especially people who are on a budget.

If you flat out reject TwoSun knives for where it's made, that's perfectly fine, but if you are a true lover of edged tools, I personally think that you are missing out big time by not checking them out.

PS: in 2020 I went on a mission to try out a bunch of Chinese brands, Reate, WE, Artisan, Maxace, Real Steel, TwoSun, etc., TwoSun is not as fancy and well marketed as Reate and WE, but definitely offers the best bang for the buck.

PJ
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While I've not spent that kind of spinach on knives, I've spent a lot, bought and sold/traded a lot. Twosun have interested me for some time, but I always hesitated because of the distributors they use. I've owned everything from sak's to a $650 Brian Tighe, and the 3 of the knives I bought in 2021 were damascus Civivi. I love them.

My other hesitation is that if you look at them on Amazon, there is an exact copy of a Strider SnG for sale. I'm not cool with that, even if it does take away sale from tricky Mickey.
 
K.O.D. said:
While I've not spent that kind of spinach on knives, I've spent a lot, bought and sold/traded a lot. Twosun have interested me for some time, but I always hesitated because of the distributors they use. I've owned everything from sak's to a $650 Brian Tighe, and the 3 of the knives I bought in 2021 were damascus Civivi. I love them.

My other hesitation is that if you look at them on Amazon, there is an exact copy of a Strider SnG for sale. I'm not cool with that, even if it does take away sale from tricky Mickey.
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That's fair. I definitely wouldn't recommend buying from distributors that sell counterfeits or alike. There is a US distributor of TwoSun knives that I buy from that others have already mentioned in earlier posts of this thread. (I won't repeat it since I don't think he's BF affiliated).

While I'm not against Chinese products, I do have my reservations about buying directly from China, mostly concerns over seller credibility, communication, and risks associated with shipping and Customs, especially the Canadian Customs.

PJ
 
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