Tidings and the return of Schatt and Morgan?

[Nebuchadnezzar]

You're going to the wrong websites then.

Was using the links from your bookmarks.

 

[r8shell]

They're going to lean into another meaning of "S&M," so the shield will be a little whip resting atop a copy of Fifty Shades of Grey.

Honestly, I've passed on their Barlows because of the bolster stamp. Schatt & Morgan is not what most people would think when seeing it.

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Meh. If you're gonna do a hemp leaf, you should do it well. That looks more like a vague starfish to me.

True...
But they started life as Great Eastern Cutlery with classy knives and shields... then they worked into the funky stuff... they built their reputation first.
The Weed Knife Company set a standard right out of the gate... funky stuff right off the bat... and then they want to market high end stuff after that?

I see your point. Personally, I'm pretty libertarian when it comes to that sort of thing, so I'm not offended, but it is an odd choice. GEC didn't start off with beard combs and banana shields.

 

[Jiki]

Was using the links from your bookmarks.

Yawn

 

[JohnDF]

Why do I suddenly feel like I'm back in High School?

 

[HEMI 49]

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If I were guessing the manufacturer to win a Teddy Bear, I'd say Case w/o hesitation..... Also I'd ballpark the selling price at $55.95....

 

[Will Power]

If you've decided to name one line after a very obscure cutler/ironmonger named Weed, it's going to be a a path littered with jokes, cackling etc and to then put a leaf shield on it hardly leads to Credibilityville .

I couldn't care less whether it's a Mari-J leaf or just innocuous Hemp, it doesn't look right aesthetically and to twin it to the name Weed is lame. r8shell has a point, looks like a Stomped On Starfish I think it could look like a partially skinned Banana as in what you can slip up on... Just try inletting that on gnarly Stag! The whole name Weed seems fraught with credibility issues, makes me think of Paraquat, Roundup and weeding, so why not put a HOE as the shield or at least the head of one (no, not that type...).

They could've used an Ace of Spades as a shield and tapped into the Schatt 'Premier' line from the past. And if you have to use leaves, GEC gets it right with the Oakleaf, no easy task inletting that either but it isn't some troublesome WEED either, or weedy.

 

[JonMcD]

I believe I’m right that I read Cooper saying the shield was a Ohio Buckeye “Maple” leaf. Which would make sense with the state of origin. Then the old Weed mark from Buffalo makes sense, the Ohio based “maple” leaf (it’s not in the maple family technically) makes sense, and the tongue and cheek reference to pot makes sense. And from a marketing aspect, it’s genius knowing that there are plenty of folks that will be knife + marijuana fans. Pretty safe play. Not for me, but a safe bet they will sell out.

 

[Jiki]

I believe I’m right that I read Cooper saying the shield was a Ohio Buckeye “Maple” leaf. Which would make sense with the state of origin. Then the old Weed mark from Buffalo makes sense, the Ohio based “maple” leaf (it’s not in the maple family technically) makes sense, and the tongue and cheek reference to pot makes sense. And from a marketing aspect, it’s genius knowing that there are plenty of folks that will be knife + marijuana fans. Pretty safe play. Not for me, but a safe bet they will sell out.

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The OSU helmet stickers are often confused for leaves of the cannabis plant, however you can clearly see they come much closer to matching the photo posted above than the shield on the knife. The shield? I think I'm in the closer to a star fish than a plant camp.

 

[JonMcD]

I do believe calling the shield a Buckeye leaf is just a crafty way to skirt having to call a spade a spade The whole thing made me laugh and say “Bravo Mr. Cooper, well played.” It felt like he was saying, “if Bill can put crafty messaging and marketing into knifes, I’ve got a good one up my sleeve.”

But what do I know. Maybe he just likes weed.

 

[JohnDF]

Buckeye?
The buckeye has five parts to the leaf... The weed has seven... He knew what he was doing.

 

[Matt_WY]

Buckeye?
The buckeye has five parts to the leaf... The weed has seven... He knew what he was doing.

True, just own it if that’s you’re marketing ploy. I’m not offended by the leaf, but more by a subpar slipjoint at a high price point. Seems like they’re selling, but few are talking them up once in hand.

 

[screened porch]

hat looks more like a vague starfish to me.

I was thinking jellyfish on a windshield, but yours makes more sense.

 

[Mass1632]

Just looked at an email with these weed knives. Surprised they dont have a punch on them for stoners to clean their bowls and whatnot.

I wanted to support this company but i dont think i can. Yet i kinda still want one as its edgy and different. But i really dont like the idea of supporting a company that is supporting the desensitizing of drugs. Anything the furthers the growing depravity, i cant abide. We can argue ethics and morals and pot vs alcohol all day long but most know where they stand and it aint changing.

 

[JohnDF]

I wanted to support this company but i dont think i can. Yet i kinda still want one as its edgy and different. But i really dont like the idea of supporting a company that is supporting the desensitizing of drugs. Anything the furthers the growing depravity, i cant abide. We can argue ethics and morals and pot vs alcohol all day long but most know where they stand and it aint changing.

 

[brownshoe]

S&M knives in 1095 is what's planned. If they were smart they'd use premium stainless since that's one thing GEC doesn't do and is traditional for high end S&M knives.

 

[Pollack]

I'm curious, did anyone get one of the new Weed & Co knives?

Best regards,

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Boy did we...

New Cooper Cutlery knives?

Hello all. New member and first post. Its my current understanding that Queen Cutleries manufacturing tools are back to work under new ownership, and please forgive if this has been covered somewhere. I believe it is Cooper Cutlery, and the new knives are branded Weed & Co.? Im very curious to...

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[jeffsenpai]

Not sure if I should post here or in the other thread, I will add my thoughts and experiences. I subscribe to the email newsletter of a dealer that specializes in selling traditional pocket knives, and got word of this new Weed & Co. release, and his story about the return of another US manufacturer of quality slipjoints piqued my interest. With the popularity of GEC right now, it certainly is the right time to enter the market. Not surprisingly, the new run of Weed & Co. Folders sold out near instantly when this dealer released them. I missed out. A day or two later, however, I happened to be browsing a misty mountain dealer site, and saw a variety of the Weed & Co. knives in the new arrivals section. I had my choice to purchase. So for $79.99, I bought the red jigged bone trapper.

I will share my first impressions with the Weed & Co. trapper.

My experience with trappers until this point lies solely with the Chinese made Kissing Crane trappers. I collect the yearly Halloween trappers they typically produce.

On opening the tube, there was no wax paper, the knife arrived in a plastic wrapping. The paperwork inside was thoughtful and appreciated. There was no outer box, just the tube. The tube prominently says MADE IN THE USA with domestic and imported materials.

The bone handles are fitted to the bolsters just fine, no gaps or overlap. The blades arrived sharp, and I suppose if I was nitpicky I could say the grinds on the edges were imperfect, but it wasn't something I even noticed until I inspected the knife very closely. I am glad to say the pull to open the knives is light. I am not a fan of heavy pulls at all. The nice light pulls are very similar to my Kissing Crane trappers. While the dimensions are essentially identical to my Kissing Cranes, the bone handles are thicker. The weight is also heavier, this knife weighs in at 4.06 oz. The Kissing Cranes compare very favorably to this Weed & Co. sample. $29.99 vs $79.99.

When the clip point blade is closed, the backspring is slightly proud of the handle. When the blades are open, then backsprings are flush.

The shield is mostly flat, with a little bit of black gunk in the deeper recesses. You might be able to see this in the photo.

For a product that was somewhat advertised as a test run, I am not dissatisfied with the knife.

What I find interesting here is that I did not really check into bladeforums throughout this purchase process and now catching up and reading threads today, there seems to be an overall negative vibe about the knife and the new brand.
I had no idea that the Weed Shield would be so divisive. I not some druggie, but I never gave it a second thought. I would think that there would be lots of support for a US based company bringing more traditionals to the market.

These seem decent for the price, especially considering we are supporting a US maker. If aftermarket prices go crazy, may as well save up for a GEC instead.

 

[Rupestris]

If you've decided to name one line after a very obscure cutler/ironmonger named Weed, it's going to be a a path littered with jokes...

This has been the trend in bourbons and American whiskeys for years and is getting so much worse now.

Find (or make up) an obscure master distiller/blender/bootlegger/moonshiner/what have you and concoct a back story about how their whiskey was of the highest quality or sought after before prohibition or how they'd steal whiskey from from the rickhouses or it's George Washington's stable boy's own secret recipe that he made up under secret distilling tutelage of GW himself.

In Ireland it's ancient recipes or processes that have been found after being lost for a hundred and fifty years. Only recently re-discovered hidden in the walls of an old pub in a town that no one has ever been.

I guess some people just eat that stuff up.

 

[Will Power]

jeffsenpai It's always good to have a first-hand account - the internet can encourage group-think and jumping on bandwagons for popularity's sake.. Thus it is important to read of owners' actual reactions and experiences

The naming of the line and using of a certain leaf shield has been divisive, it's a rather lame bit of humour I feel. Frankly, I couldn't care less whether it's a Hemp or Mari-J leaf, I would like to be able to use medicinal M-J for a medical complaint but the authorities in this country haven't sanctioned it and since we are now in the dazzle of the headlights of various experts, it won't be for now, but that could change and it could suddenly be 'legal', really ridiculous .

However, I fail to see ANY connexion between this leaf shield and Traditional pocket-knives and really wonder if anybody can find some legitimacy in knife annals for launching a project based on smoking weed?? Cutting tobacco plugs maybe with a straight edge but that's long disappeared . As to the knife itself, that dye job looks pretty garish and when mated to a ludicrous shield ( I detest those whimsy shields that GEC use from time to time e.g. guitars and bananas etc ) credibility takes a nosedive. For me the price is well high enough for something looking as undistinguished as an ordinary RR. Plus as an EU customer the shipping would be high and then you have to add 25% import tax to the knife cost AND shipping as well I'll pay that for a GEC (reluctantly) but the finish, integrity and aesthetics is far higher, contrast a GEC 48 with the current Schatt competitor, I would do the same for a CASE knife (when they end their insane no shipping outside the US policy) And a cheap looking etch on the blade? Not really. Then there's the thing about made in america from domestic and imported parts, which parts? Not just the bone slabs - as is normal- but those blades too?

Here's a Queen Cutlery Dogleg Trapper to put the new Schatt company into perspective. They still need to do a LOT better in my view.

Heritage Jack