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STEPHEN BAYAZES said:
He make a good knife I am not used are accustomed to have a useless knife all show and no go
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It's not useless, it's just not designed for what you want it to do. It is a dagger designed to be a very effective stabbing implement. With that, there will be downsides in other areas, like cutting ability. Get a more utilitarian knife design from Tim and I'm sure you'll be more than pleased at it's cutting abilities.
 
STEPHEN BAYAZES said:
He make a good knife I am not used are accustomed to have a useless knife all show and no go
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Stephen:

I need to do a better job educating you. A fighting dagger is supposed to cut going in and coming out - just like a saw blade. On a bigger scale look at a cabinet maker's saw. It will cut wood for years going back and forth. Now, grind the teeth off it, polish the edge up so that it will cut hair/paper then try and cut wood with it.....the saw blade, sharpened the way you want it, will slide over the wood and not cut. To sharpen it the way you want it would do you a disservice - this dagger is battle ready and will give you a wicked cut going in and out MANY times. In addition, the built up tip prevents tip breakage - this is a killer dagger.

If you've tried to sharpen this dagger to shave hair, you've changed it from a fighting dagger to a show piece. If this is the case, send it back to me, and I will put the edge back on it the way I sent it to you - a true fighting dagger. Trust me, I wouldn't steer you wrong.
 
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I've seen Tim's stunning work on the forum and was gagging at the face value of the original post. After seeing the finished product it appears this item is in fact stunning and I'm left with looking at another knife I want but cannot afford. Thank you both for ruining my day.
 
It seems to me that you should have been more specific in what you were asking for when you placed the order. You gave Mr Steingass free artist license and he produced a stunning dagger. Dragging his name through the mud is not doing anything productive.

STEPHEN BAYAZES said:
I had tim steingas build me a 10" blade dagger when I got it to my surprise the dagger wasn't sharp are even close to having a edge and to make matters worse it's not even tempered I have a 1300.00$ dollar nothing
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STEPHEN BAYAZES said:
He make a good knife I am not used are accustomed to have a useless knife all show and no go
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It sounds like you asked for something that required tradeoffs you didn't know or inquire about. A blade ground and shaped like that will be a terrible cutter, but it's not meant to slice or carve things.

Most of this could have been cleared up by being more specific in your request. From what you both said, it sounds like you gave him artistic license and only a few specifications, one of which does not appear to have been "Make it a good cutter as well."

I'm a little perplexed that you'd buy three knives from a maker, be dissatisfied with the third, and immediately join Bladeforums to bad-mouth the fellow without going back and discussing your concerns with him. Or maybe I shouldn't be, since if I were going to spend $1,300 on a knife, I'd make sure the maker and I were on the same page at some point before he mailed the finished product to me.
 
katanas said:
In all seriousness, I really question your sanity. :rolleyes: The dagger is beautiful AND "it will keel" :D
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I think that we've all done our best, using logic to sway the viewpoint of the OP, and it just ain't gonna work. People have complex reasons for staying with a rigid attitude, and that's just the way it is.
 
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I'm glad Mr. Steingass took the time to respond. I have always had great respect for him and his work and this thread shows that he deserves that respect.

For the OP, if you don't want the dagger, you should just sell it. We all wind up with knives that don't suit us. Mr. Steingass delivered an exceptional product. The fact that you subsequently decided that it doesn't suit you doesn't reflect poorly on him, especially since you were initially pleased with it, and whining about it here just makes you look foolish.
 
TK Steingass said:
Stephen: That was uncalled for - I have a feeling that the knowledgeable collectors and users here are going to eat you alive. I'm done here.
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I told you from day one this knife was to used as a weapon I didn't have you make me a flat blade ice pick it will not cut skin. If you ever had to use a knife you you know what I am refu too this blad is a ice pick not a knife why do you think I didn't buy the other one you made worthless as a knife so don't call it a knife
 
Tim keep trying too change the pick too sale it to me my son seen mine and told me if he could not sharpen it why would he think anyone else could: Tim has built me a nice pair of fighters nice knives
 
Years ago trading in guns, I once sold a guy a Walter PPK. A couple of weeks later he wanted to return the firearm, claiming that it was defective, because it sliced into the web of his palm, every time he shot it. He blamed me for that.
I was willing to do some kind of trade, but discovered that he had taken a dremmel tool to the slide edeges, and even polished the slide stop, to the point that it wouldn't hold the slide back, in the locked position. I politely declined to accept the altered gun, for a trade credit.
The guy chose a gun that didn't suit his needs. What would you have done in that situation, Mr. Bayazes?
 
I don't have any practical experience with daggers -- I've never had the need for a fighting knife -- but I adore the design of that tip.

Not helpful to this thread but I had to post it.
 
stonesell said:
Years ago trading in guns, I once sold a guy a Walter PPK. A couple of weeks later he wanted to return the firearm, claiming that it was defective, because it sliced into the web of his palm, every time he shot it. He blamed me for that.
I was willing to do some kind of trade, but discovered that he had taken a dremmel tool to the slide edeges, and even polished the slide stop, to the point that it wouldn't hold the slide back, in the locked position. I politely declined to accept the altered gun, for a trade credit.
The guy chose a gun that didn't suit his needs. What would you have done in that situation, Mr. Bayazes?
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1st off I custom order this dagger told you how I wanted it you told me over the phone it took you seven days to make this pick / no a dagger and you did the best that you could so don't blame me for your short comings it's a pick not a dagger I own Both did I ask you for my money back no I didn't I personally thought the world such know you can't make a true dagger
 
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