Today's Question: Can This Correctly Be Called a BUCK 110?

Or how about this one?

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As you can see it is a two dot blade, with micarta slabs on it, and is file worked. How would you describe this one? HL
 
I'm far from a 110 pro, that being said, I would say that is a custom knife with a customized 110 blade. The body of that knife doesnt look to be a Buck but the blade is, and it has been customized. Again its all in the way its described and for what purpose.
 
The frame originally had a 1989 blade in it that was sharpened down, I was wanting a better user, so I had a two dot blade put in it. Would you still say it is a Buck? Knowing full well that there is no warrant on it. HL
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Definitely a Buck. When selling that knife, a good seller will mention that the Buck warranty is void due to that non-factory blade change (in reality, I'd check with Joe before even making that decision to be sure).

Your second knife is a customized Buck (if that is indeed a Buck frame as it seems to be).

:)
 
My two cents probably echos an earlier post. My opinion is that they are all customized and it is just a question of "by who"? If you are thinking about buying a knife like that, you need to find out who did the work. It may not even matter to you though which is fine.
Do you collect or like to use knives customised by someone other than the factory? I know quite a few guys that do and their collections would blow you away.
I also know guys that are very strict on what they collect. It HAS to be all factory work or a collaboration of some sort such as Yellowhorse.
Then you have the guys that buy and use what ever tickles their fancy.
Its all good and the only thing thats gets me a little bent are knife descriptions that are misleading so you cant make an informed decision on whether or not to bid on a certain knife.
I read the guys title and description and actually felt ok with it. He does state that he did all the work so if your a "factory only" guy, you know to pass on it.
If you like knives customised buy other knife makers, you might ask him some of the questioins BG brought up such as blade stampings and any more info on the inlays. Also you might ask if they have any kind of warranty.
So to the original question...yes imho, the knife can be called custom under the understanding that there is a somewhat broad definition of the term.
 
So to the original question...yes imho, the knife can be called custom under the understanding that there is a somewhat broad definition of the term.
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Better re-read the original question, Joe.

You didn't answer it.

;)
 
BG42EDGE said:
Better re-read the original question, Joe.

You didn't answer it.

;)
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Thanks Bg. When I do something like this, which is way too often these days, I like to remind people that I was in a coma 6 months ago and I'm still not quite right. I wonder how long I can get away with that excuse? :D

So to answer the actual question...imho YES it can be called a Buck 110, but the seller should offer a good explanation, which he does.
Is there a legal recourse available for Buck Knives against the seller for the way he described his knife as a Buck 110? My guess is that this is a grey area.
So it really begs the question: At what point of alteration does the knife become a non Buck? Some here believe that once the blade is replaced, the line has been crossed. It does not say Buck anymore right?
So I still did not answer the question but I did offer some of my thoughts, muddled as they are, for your amusement.
 
Your thoughts, muddled or not, carry great weight (past comas aside).

I think there's really three relevant questions to this thread:

1. Can it be called a 110? (I'd say no, once the blade is gone.)

2. Did the seller actually call it a 110? (I'd say.......first he did and then he explained the work and left it at that.)

3. Was the confusion intended to deceive or was it an honest mistake? (My guess is honest mistake.)

Interesting discussion anyway....and hard to prove anybody right or wrong.
 
WOW
dis time i gots to hand it to bg,,
he started an intelgent discusson with out upsetting any one !!!
my hats off to him as it means there is hope yet !
now
omg should i weagh in on this conversation ,,
or NOT...........

heck i gots over three hundrid o them bucks
so why not ...so
yes i will jump in on this conversation...
notes frist:
the knife i collect is the {{drum roll please}}
FOLDING HUNGER
the first 110 is now the 103
the folding hunter was not marked as 110 for several years
even after marking them 110
legon has it that blank bladed "110s" and others showed up in 'nam..in covert ops
buck put 110 marked blades in Ti handles and sold them as 560's
they put 426 blade in a brass wood 110 frame and it as a 110 ...
there are 426 frames with 110 marked blades called 426
in my mind
IF
it is a Folding Hunter style interchangable blade
it dont mater a hill of beans what it is called
it is a veration of the folding hunter commonly called the 110..

and for the girly knife guys bucksway has a proto type 112 with no markings
so de same ting applys there also... odd and unusal as it may be

so i collect folding hunter and all its veratants..
now i have a 110 frame with a stright blade in it
it is called a fixed blade 110 by all including thoes at buck


NOW
as to the sellers listing
i see nothing wrong at all with his listing !!!
there was no reason to pull it
sellers have advertiseing lisence!!!
and it is a legal point of buyer beware

as to if it is a buck knife
{that i dont like to touch that as well i dont like upsetting people}

to me if the blade is marked buck it can be called a buck knife


i see knives with buck blades in handles that are not ... typicly sold by buck
to me it is acceptable to call them customised bucks

now recall that buck did put out unmarked blades a lot...
more then they knew.. so an unmarked blade could still be a buck knife


and if it i is all buck parts ... so what!!! big deal and i mean that in a good way!..
many odd and unusal knives come out of buck
jest look at what Joe finds in storage boxes!!!!!!
and they are real customs ..!! wink

to me if the blade is buck marked it is ok to refer to it as a
customised buck IF the seller is clear as to that the blade is not a buck blade
then it is a 110 TYPE OR 110 STYLE KNIFE
or a Buck type of knife not a buck knife..

so after market or not
if the blade is not marked buck to me it is not a real buck but
as stated there is advertisening lisence...


recall that Al put buck blades in pocket kinves long time ago
they are real bucks and not what ever they started out as

so it is the blade that makes it a buck to me
but again take note of my sig line ..
i am jest the dum hill bully in the corner drinkn from a jar..
what jest happen to have over 3 hundreid o them dang things


hee hee wander if i should duck.. or not ..
 
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naw ya did not miss ..
but thank god it matched the other one i had from before!!
now i gots a matched pair for mucking around...

this is a dang good thread and lots of ideas
i tend to see a consensis in that many feel the way i do
that it is the blade that is the esence of the the knife
the rest is usefull to hold it
some one should start a
customised buck picture thread for
jest knives that have been altered from factory issue..

more note
wild bill markes his knives with WBC
leroy markes all his knives with LR
or RRR in the case of makeing blades...
i once for a bit had two of his very early hunters
and they was marked LLR on the choil
they was stolen so i returned them to the owner...
most all of his customs he made in the custom shop
had his name on the frames or blade under the handles

there is rummer of some one at buck that did some
lunch time or off the clock work before the move to idaho...
i am trying to track down the owner of a few odd knives..
 
Red, your knife is a customized Buck 110 with some stunning new scales.

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To be precise, the scales are from a really rare bit of Petrified Palm from Indonesia.
 
Those scales are absolutely GORGEOUS. I blinked a couple times thinking the scales were reflecting the countertop before I realized that the pattern was on the scales themselves. Great job.
 
I4Bucks said:
Or how about this one?

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As you can see it is a two dot blade, with micarta slabs on it, and is file worked. How would you describe this one? HL
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I4Bucks, sweet 110... So is it from the old Buck Custom Shop... I've seen one like yours before at the swap meet, out here in San Diego... But they wanted 50$ for it... :eek: ... I didn't know much about Buck knives yet... Well I still don't... :o ... ITE
 
ITE from what Leroy told me when he saw the knife at the twenty year event, yes it is an early Buck custom from the custom shop. That would make it an all Buck knife. Larry Oden, was there at the time Leroy saw it, and he surprised us that it was an early custom 110. HL
 
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