Toughest Folder on Earth

Cobalt said:
I have never used it just handled it, but I can imagine that with the poor ergonomics it would not be a fun time after a little while. Dark Ops makes a copy don't the? Probably poorer materials and fit/finish.

Anyway, I may someday cut one of my small Busse knives and have the blade made into a Balisong. An anorexic Badger Folder might be good. Use Beta Ti Handles with the two Massive pivots made of SR101 (slight more corrosion resistance than 52100). Could this possibly be the Busse folder?

Hmmmmm .... I'm thinking the same thing, or close.

The Sebbie is getting boring, but I'm limiting myself to 1 folder. I do like the holes Tom Mayo put in it though.

The active Duty and large classic sebbie blade almost dupe each other in profile.

I'm thinking a Hinderer AD/Fire Tac.

A AD/DABA Bali sounds good also, but I've never had a Bali and it would be for EDC, not flipping or stuff. Neat design though.

Still won't give up the 'small' Busse FB on the other side though.

I think I'll be gone before the Messiah OR the Busse folder appears. LOL

Rob
 
wetdog1911 said:
Hmmmmm .... I'm thinking the same thing, or close.

The Sebbie is getting boring, but I'm limiting myself to 1 folder. I do like the holes Tom Mayo put in it though.

The active Duty and large classic sebbie blade almost dupe each other in profile.

I'm thinking a Hinderer AD/Fire Tac.

A AD/DABA Bali sounds good also, but I've never had a Bali and it would be for EDC, not flipping or stuff. Neat design though.

Still won't give up the 'small' Busse FB on the other side though.

I think I'll be gone before the Messiah OR the Busse folder appears. LOL

Rob

Yes, I meant it not for flipping but EDC as well. Thinnk about it a Bali would be more solid than anything else if beefed up. No way to fail and dual pivots holding the blade. If done right nothing would be stronger IMO.

I think Bali's are illegal in many places like Ca, Mass, etc. Not sure though.
 
cognitivefun said:
Let's be objective here. Many of us love our Striders, our Manixes, our Sebbies...

But the Extrema Ratio MPC is basically a sharpened crowbar. It won't cut as well because of the blade being so thick. But comparing it to a Strider or Manix, I would have to say that the ER is the toughest folder if you are going to hammer it, pry with it, and generally use it in a way that folders are not meant to be used.

It isn't my favorite tough knife -- that would be the Striders or the Manix -- but it seems like the toughest. Even the locking mechanism is obviously extremely strong and the overall knife is incredibly beefy. Probably twice as heavy as the other knives.

If I were going to have to cut and pry my way out of a train wreck, this is the knife I'd want with me.

What he said (and superbly put too!).
 
If you're looking for a knife to kick around, then go with a Strider GB. Their warranty puts it in first in my book.
 
The toughest folder? I was thinking about the same recently. :cool: How about a Spyderco Manix or a Chinook, with a replacement blade from Chase Axinn.? I mean the thickest possible americanized tanto, with sabre grind, using M2 steel. This way you will have a truly unique knife which is tougher than hell, and the price of the whole stuff will be under 250 bucks.
 
Diamond Cut II said:
If you're looking for a knife to kick around, then go with a Strider GB. Their warranty puts it in first in my book.

I can't get enthused because it is a linerlock. I have a few Striders but they are framelocks. I wouldn't nominate any folder for toughtest in the world if it is a liner lock. I don't think liner locks handle repeated lateral/torquing stresses as well as some other designs.
 
Either the Strider SMF or the Lone Wolf Harsey (the big one) are tanks. The Lone Wolf is a beast and solid for a liner lock.
 
digdeep said:
What steel is used on this folder? Looks like a great looking knife. :)

AUS8A

They take a nicely sharp edge. The cut better than you'd think for such a thick blade, but obviously not as well as something with a really thin edge.
 
I htought of another tough folder ... the original Cold Steel TwistMaster.
 
Having owned all variations of the Extrema Ratio folders they get the nod from me.

I currently own none despite the fact that I like big tacticals and lock-backs because of their blade geometry. They are not going to excel at cutting which is 99.99% of the reason I carry a knife.

With your requirements I would go with any of the Extrema Ratio's hands down.

From there, the sky's the limit.

The new benchmade Rukus is phenominal. Big beefy blade, good grind for cutting efficiency, best lock on the market.

Original Chinook, the biggest baddest Spyderco made, the Chinook II and Manix are along the same lines but not quite as beefy.

Strider AR/GB, liner lock's, but if you have to go liner lock this would be a good choice.

Severtech auto, an absolute tank with good cutting performance with an excellent lock (plunge lock).

After that, check out some of the amazing custom frame locks. RJ Martin would be one of my first choices. I also have one from Todd Begg that's phenominal but may be a bit out of your stated price range. The Carillo's are a cool design but his choice of hardware has never thrilled me. I have little doubt they would make excellent choices if a refined look is not high on your list of priorities.

From custom makers I would stick with frame locks. Unfortunately Axis lock's in a custom is almost unobtainable, and there are very few makers doing lockback's. Tab lock is supposed to be excellent but I have not had one, and liner locks are too hit or miss and just not as strong given your requirements.

Of course, as with anything these are opinions based on my experience and will differ from others. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it ;)) you almost need to buy a few and try them out, then either keep or get rid of the rest.

Best of luck.

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cognitivefun said:
I can't get enthused because it is a linerlock. I have a few Striders but they are framelocks. I wouldn't nominate any folder for toughtest in the world if it is a liner lock. I don't think liner locks handle repeated lateral/torquing stresses as well as some other designs.

The GB isn't a liner lock. It's a frame lock.


...With G10 on both sides.
 
Greco. Pretty much any of his. About $150, but impossible to break. Not so easy to close one-handed, but built like a brick outhouse.
 
talonturbo said:
The GB isn't a liner lock. It's a frame lock.


...With G10 on both sides.


I'm a fan of the AR/GB but this is a pretty broad mis-statement, even thought I get the gist of your post others may not.

Frame locks benefit from the added security of your hand gripping the frame and engaging the lock tighter, that can't happen with a knife that has full scales (aka liner lock).

Also, the AR/GB liners are thinner than every large frame lock on the market. So if you took the scales off it would be puny by comparison.

As far as liner locks go, the Striders are as beefy and overbuilt as it gets IMO, but they still suffer from the same short comings of any liner lock, only at higher extremes.
 
cognitivefun said:
I can't get enthused because it is a linerlock. I have a few Striders but they are framelocks. I wouldn't nominate any folder for toughtest in the world if it is a liner lock. I don't think liner locks handle repeated lateral/torquing stresses as well as some other designs.

The thickness of the liner make it as strong as a frame. But if that's the case, then a tanto SMF will get the job done nicely:) .
 
Thank you for your reply, I like this folder from what I am discovering on the internet about it. I will take it into serious consideration along with some of the other recommenditions.
Thanks again
SAR
 
I do like these folders, where are they available? In stock? Where do you recommend buying them?
Thanks
 
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