Traditional Knife and Gun Picture Thread

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The knives are a Great Eastern Cutlery: #74 Mustang and a Böker: Nicker 11. The gun is a Carl Delp muzzleloading side-by-side. The rifle barrel (.265) is good to 50 m, for a clean shot on a small target; the old lady spreads pellets like a watering can, so the shotgun barrel (.50) is not to be used in excess of 15 m. She hasn’t hunted in my lifetime, but the barrels are good and clean. I’ve taken her to the range, where she did alright. In a pitch could be used for rabbits, hares, ducks and geese.
 
Luke_Chambers said:
the old lady spreads pellets like a watering can, so the shotgun barrel (.50) is not to be used in excess of 15 m.
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Can you load the smooth bore .50 side with a .455 patched round ball or greased conical (not a sabot with a pistol caliber or .444 Marlin bullet) with 50 grains FFg* behind it for whitetail?
If you loaded the small bore side too, you could maybe turn off the 🤬🤬🤬 tree rat/squirrel that's dropping nuts on your head while you're waiting to ambush a deer (or turkey) from the branches of "his" (or "her") tree. 😡
(*"back in the day" small and mid-bore .28 to .44 caliber used FFFg. .45 to .60 caliber used FFg, (.50 could also use FFFg. I got better accuracy with Fg) Over .60 caliber used Fg.
FFFFg was for priming the pan of a flint lock or primary charge in really small sub .20 caliber guns.
1 grain powder per caliber was the minimum recommended load, tho the .53./54, were rounded up to 55 grains. The "military" .577 and .58 caliber standard service charge was rounded up to 60 grains. They can shoot heavier charges, safely, of course, of 1.5 to 1.75 grains per caliber.
If you wanted a heavier charge you went to the next size up in powder.
My .45 CVA "Kentucky" rifle liked a load of 120 grains Fg. My .50 liked a charge of 140 grains Fg.
The larger grain powders burn slower, giving a higher velocity with lower barrel pressures.
Using 120 grains Fg behind a patched round ball I could consistently hit a 1" diameter broom stick at 100 yards. An easy shot. At 100 yards the broom stick looks the same width as the front sight blade. Just have to line them up. 😇)
 
afishhunter said:
1 grain powder per caliber was the minimum recommended load, tho the .53./54, were rounded up to 55 grains. The "military" .577 and .58 caliber standard service charge was rounded up to 60 grains. They can shoot heavier charges, safely, of course, of 1.5 to 1.75 grains per caliber.
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I'm using No 2 Swiss Powder (FFF), since it is too expensive and complicated for me to stock more than one grain-size. This is pistol powder (I know), but I'm shooting pistol more often than rifle.
The loads were 45 gr for the .50 smooth barrel (shot) and 15-20 gr for the rifle barrel. I haven't settled on the optimum patch size and load, yet. Thanks for the suggestion to use a patched ball in the smooth barrel, I'm thinking about it.
I'm using the same powder in an old Enfield 2-Band rifle (.54 Minié ball), the favorite load at the moment is about 40 gs, but it seems that it could be lowered for improved accuracy.
 
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Luke_Chambers said:
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The knives are a Great Eastern Cutlery: #74 Mustang and a Böker: Nicker 11. The gun is a Carl Delp muzzleloading side-by-side. The rifle barrel (.265) is good to 50 m, for a clean shot on a small target; the old lady spreads pellets like a watering can, so the shotgun barrel (.50) is not to be used in excess of 15 m. She hasn’t hunted in my lifetime, but the barrels are good and clean. I’ve taken her to the range, where she did alright. In a pitch could be used for rabbits, hares, ducks and geese.
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I don't know where you live but I would have to carry that one squirrel hunting! You have a perfect combination gun for it.
 
lambertiana said:
Speaking of .44 Henry rimfire, one time I was camping at the tarn at 11,600' above Guitar Lake on the west slope of Mt Whitney and I found a fired case. I picked it up and saw that it was rimfire, struck in two places on opposite sides of the rim, with an H in the middle of the head. It wasn't until I got home that I realized that it was a Henry rimfire. That same tarn used to have a structure of some kind, I have found square nails there.
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Did ya keep the case or any of the nails?
 
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