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Trouble with recon0317
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Well, I might be wrong here...or maybe stating the obvious, it's your take. That said, Recon has not responded to any of the updates on this thread. Or am I missing something?
My point was that I don't quite understand why people seem willing to continue believing regardless of the evidence that they're being willfully lied to.
There's a similar pattern in almost every thread like this one.
Maybe I'm just too cynical but as soon as someone starts breaking out their service record or they start assessing blame onto others for their own failings I assume that they're playing me and I take whatever actions I can to stop them from achieving their goal.
When caught in a lie, the pathological liar doesn't apologize or try to make things right, they continue to lie. You can see it in thread after thread. Getting rightously angry, blaming their victims, threatening to leave, it's all just more lying.
There's a similar pattern in almost every thread like this one.
Maybe I'm just too cynical but as soon as someone starts breaking out their service record or they start assessing blame onto others for their own failings I assume that they're playing me and I take whatever actions I can to stop them from achieving their goal.
When caught in a lie, the pathological liar doesn't apologize or try to make things right, they continue to lie. You can see it in thread after thread. Getting rightously angry, blaming their victims, threatening to leave, it's all just more lying.
John, that is an interesting observation and I am inclined to agree. It is not without a caveat though, in the case of medical issues or problems related to military injuries, it's not simple or the norm for those affected to publish such information for public consumption. We nust cannot ever really be 100% sure how much is truth and how much is make believe. I like to give people he benefit of the doubt in these cases, no reason not to in my mind. I think at some point in our lives we've all been prematurely judged by peers here. In thisncase,mI am hoping that recon does come through and keeps his reputation and word,mand I hope he is being truthful. Until then, waiting for Cal to reply to my messages and posts here.
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No contact or knife.
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That's unfortunate. I'll admit, I really thought Recon would make it right.
This is not my business but on 5/25 I sent recon an email asking if everything was alright etc . Nothing really about the knife just letting him know that the thread was still active and seeing if he was ok...No response ...
JohnWE I never said I believe the guy , I said he seems like a stand up guy and I know guys like him usually they say what they mean and do what they say and given the circumstances it may be best to hold off on judgement of the guy .
In 99/100 cases like this I'd say Cal got screwed and it was over and done with . Guess part of me just has faith in the Recon guy part of me still believes this may work out .
Now not so much too much time has gone by without even any communication so even if Recon can't ship for whatever reason unless he's dead some communication should of happened here .
Cal best of luck to you. I've got some knives shoot me a pm with what you have and we'll see if we can't make a deal .
JohnWE I never said I believe the guy , I said he seems like a stand up guy and I know guys like him usually they say what they mean and do what they say and given the circumstances it may be best to hold off on judgement of the guy .
In 99/100 cases like this I'd say Cal got screwed and it was over and done with . Guess part of me just has faith in the Recon guy part of me still believes this may work out .
Now not so much too much time has gone by without even any communication so even if Recon can't ship for whatever reason unless he's dead some communication should of happened here .
Cal best of luck to you. I've got some knives shoot me a pm with what you have and we'll see if we can't make a deal .
I wasn't singling you out. There are a lot of people that participate in threads here that grab hold of one statement or comment made by a person who's honesty has been repeatedly challenged and they cling to it like its gospel. It's one of the things sociopaths count on when they're victimizing people.
When I was growing up I had a step-brother who was by any standard a sociopath and a pathological liar. He explained to me once in a very rare bit of candor that his methods of avoiding punishment from our parents was to simply deny every accusation even in the case of overwhelming guilt on his part. He'd figured out that people; in his case his mother, really want to believe in other people even to the point of irrationality. He used that belief to avoid serious punishment for escalating bad and then borderline criminal activities for years until he finally had to face a prosecutor and a judge who had no illusions about his honesty. Last I heard he was in prison for various crimes. I see the same kind of enabling behaviour here regarding obvious dishonesty and fraud being committed by so-called knife makers.
Agent Mulders poster on his office wall in The X Files says it best. "I want to believe..."
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I have emailed him a couple more times with no response.
So did you end up getting your money back?
I can't think of any way that recon0317's actions here could be explained or justified. He scammed someone in a trade, then turned around and "sold" the knife he stole, never sent the knife, and failed to refund you. If there's any possibility of re-interpreting the facts here in a more favorable light towards recon0317, I'd be interested in hearing how.
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Still no contact from recon0317, you might as well ban him.
He already stated he's not coming back due to "drama". There are several examples of past threads where a seemingly upstanding forum member appears to scam somebody, they enter the thread outraged, deny any wrongdoing, and leave the site forever. Unfortunately it looks like that's what happened here.
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Have you contacted a mod for help. I saw that Red Devil posted in this thread several times.
^ I'm sorry to say, but I think that you are most likely correct, 9Nine.
Having dealt with Doug personally, I'm very disappointed that he chose this less than honorable path. There is always the possibility that he did in fact pass away...he did have some rather serious health issues.
As Spartan had earlier posted in this thread: I too reached out to Doug on a couple of occasions, solely to ask how he was doing. He did not reply.
I'm sorry this happened to you, Calemerson.
How many times has GB&U seen this reaction from one of its "stars"?
I'm inclined to think that someone is getting a little extra benefit of the doubt here simply because of claimed military service.
I think you have your answer.
"Sheesh......ignore" indeed.