Ungentlemanlike - Traditional Bad Boy Knives

Trubetzkoy said:
My apologies! I've said my piece, and I don't see why the controversy should continue at this point in light of the data furnished by the two parties (both of which, I believe, have provided valuable information for enthusiasts of Spanish and French knives).


That's a nice-looking knife. Is it made in Japan? As for the guard, if you're referring to its being attached in the form of scales, I believe that was a common feature of some Sheffield models. Here are a couple examples from the Antique Bowie Knife Channel on YouTube:

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Thanks. Yes, Japan. And thanks for the old sandwich-guard pics. I half-thought I'd seen it before somewhere.
Here's the FB's little brother:
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Here is a Schrade reproduction of a traditional folding dirk pattern. The inscription on the blade reads “God Armeth the Patriot”
I have a couple of these Chinese produced reproductions.

Other traditional knives with bad reputations would be the long toothpick style slipjoint, the straight razor, the hawkbill pruning knife and the long slender melon tester- knives which were used for work and then pressed into service as weapons when the field hands finished a night of drinking in the local saloons.
 
Just Tom. said:
I assume that thing is huge, but a smaller version with a 4 or 4-1/2” blade would be awesome. Also, interesting they are calling it a Vendetta, if I am reading the display correctly.
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In my experience, museums get things wrong all the time! :rolleyes: :D :thumbsup:

As with this Puma Automesser in the Royal Armouries collection :rolleyes:

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screened porch said:
This is what we wanted for antisocial engagements in junior high school. I didn't have one then.
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Same here! :D They were widely sold in Sheffield, but usually with the springs missing :( From what I know, I think 'flick-knives' were the number one acquisition of British schoolboys lucky enough to get a school-trip to Europe! :D :thumbsup:
screened porch said:
The faca de ponta my uncle brought back from the Brazillian uplands after WWII. It was much carried by the local bandits. Some were smaller, some were sword-length.
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This one is 15 & 1/2 inches OA.
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That's really cool Jer :cool:
draggat said:
All this talk of stilettos and Bowie's.... View attachment 1841472

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Nice Von Tempsky :cool: :thumbsup:
 
When I was growing up, middle school and high school, the Buck 110 was the quintessential Bad Boy knife. Everybody packed them as weapons, not necessarily as tools. That reputation has always stuck with me, and even today, I can't get passed the stigma it created and i just can't own one.

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JohnDF said:
When I was growing up, middle school and high school, the Buck 110 was the quintessential Bad Boy knife. Everybody packed them as weapons, not necessarily as tools. That reputation has always stuck with me, and even today, I can't get passed the stigma it created and i just can't own one.

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People talk about the 110 as if it is some sort of ancient relic, but in reality is is only about as old as we are, and that’s not old, right? RIGHT??

It definitely was not considered old fashioned by the bad boy types who carried it when I was in school.
 
A pint sized baby bad boy just showed up today!

Here it is next to a 15 to see just how small it is. Unfortunately, this shot doesn't show the mirror finish...... That combined with the carraca is a bit menacing, on the larger ones at least. 🤣PXL_20220803_231107763~2.jpgPXL_20220803_230758739~2.jpg
 
Just Tom. said:
Nice knife, but unfortunately I am unfamiliar with the scale you are using. How big is it in Buck 110s?
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That's what I should have compared to originally.... A Spanish icon next to an American Icon!

We know this pattern here as a Navaja, but in Spain, all folding knives are called navaja's. This pattern is actually called a Jerezana.

Not actually all that small compared to the 110.... Just 1/8" shorter with a ruler. This is the smallest one of this particular series though, the largest having an 8" blade. :oops:

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draggat said:
That's what I should have compared to originally.... A Spanish icon next to an American Icon!

We know this pattern here as a Navaja, but in Spain, all folding knives are called navaja's. This pattern is actually called a Jerezana.

Not actually all that small compared to the 110.... Just 1/8" shorter with a ruler. This is the smallest one of this particular series though, the largest having an 8" blade. :oops:

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That is quite lovely.
 
JohnDF said:
When I was growing up, middle school and high school, the Buck 110 was the quintessential Bad Boy knife. Everybody packed them as weapons, not necessarily as tools. That reputation has always stuck with me, and even today, I can't get passed the stigma it created and i just can't own one.

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Everyone I knew back in Junior High and High School who carried a 110 was taking a shop class. It was kinda expected we had one on our belt.

I "may" be odd thing out, but I've never considered a folding knife a "weapon". I suspect the rest of my classmates felt the same way. When there was a fight, the knives stayed in the pocket, or in the case of the 110, in the belt sheath.
During the various upland game and deer hunting seasons, if they got in a fight no one went out to their car for their .22 rifle, shotgun, muzzleloader, handgun, or bow n arrows. (centerfire rifles were not allowed for hunting deer. centerfire .38/.357 or larger Revolver, 16; 20; 12; or 10 guage shotgun, muzzleloader (minimum .45 caliber) and archery (minimum 45 pound draw) only. I don't think Iowa allows a centerfire rifle, even today.)
Only once was their a "raid" on the welding and machine shops supply of bar stock and pipe, and that was in response to a semi credible rumor that 50 gang bangers from Chicago were on their way because a relative of one of the leaders got hit in the face by a icy slush ball some gal had thrown at someone standing near him. Supposedly he used the pay phone at the restaurant across from the school "to call for backup." (cellphones hadn't been invented yet) As far as I know, the gang bangers never came to town.
Maybe the road conditions between Chicago and us were to nasty. It was snowing rather hard ... we got over a foot of white stuff that day ... or if the guy really did call, his kin just laughed at him ... (my suspicion)
 
afishhunter said:
Everyone I knew back in Junior High and High School who carried a 110 was taking a shop class. It was kinda expected we had one on our belt.

I "may" be odd thing out, but I've never considered a folding knife a "weapon". I suspect the rest of my classmates felt the same way. When there was a fight, the knives stayed in the pocket, or in the case of the 110, in the belt sheath.
During the various upland game and deer hunting seasons, if they got in a fight no one went out to their car for their .22 rifle, shotgun, muzzleloader, handgun, or bow n arrows. (centerfire rifles were not allowed for hunting deer. centerfire .38/.357 or larger Revolver, 16; 20; 12; or 10 guage shotgun, muzzleloader (minimum .45 caliber) and archery (minimum 45 pound draw) only. I don't think Iowa allows a centerfire rifle, even today.)
Only once was their a "raid" on the welding and machine shops supply of bar stock and pipe, and that was in response to a semi credible rumor that 50 gang bangers from Chicago were on their way because a relative of one of the leaders got hit in the face by a icy slush ball some gal had thrown at someone standing near him. Supposedly he used the pay phone at the restaurant across from the school "to call for backup." (cellphones hadn't been invented yet) As far as I know, the gang bangers never came to town.
Maybe the road conditions between Chicago and us were to nasty. It was snowing rather hard ... we got over a foot of white stuff that day ... or if the guy really did call, his kin just laughed at him ... (my suspicion)
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I don’t think Buck 110s were considered weapons by the bad-boy types who carried them when I was growing up. They were just part of the attire. I distinctly remember seeing them on people’s belts in school - if there were different rules for knife carry inside the school from out in public they were unknown and unenforced.

Switchblades were illegal, and I’m sure butterfly knives and novelty daggers and whatnot would have been viewed as weapons and confiscated if found.
 
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Hashishiin said:
Sweet, I love these sorts of knives! Will post mine in short order. The Navaja is a "traditional bad boy knife" for sure. Also, a nail-Karambit.
We used to wear an onion tied around our belt, as was the fashion at the time...

Maybe in your neck, but some old timers in NY may still see that K55 Mercator and consider it a hoods knife, because it was very popular with gangsters in the 1960s-70s Bronx, that Mercator. Some people in Algeria may fear the Douk-Douk as it was used to inflict extreme terror before. cutting off noses and stuff.
Of course, without that history and knowledge, without being in the regionally specific area... of course these are just regular knives. I carry 'em as low-key, use-anywhere simple carbon steel knives, and actually class them in with the Opinel, MAM, Higonokami, etc, by basis of being an everyman knife invented from between 1869-1929.
Nice Laguiole!
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The only hood knife I remember growing up here in NYC is the old “007” knife…

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