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Jim, that may be a chicken/egg thing. The demand is arguably too high because we lost a lot of capacity over the years. When Al Mar went looking to have his not very cheap knives made back in the late 70's, he went to Seki, not Portland where he had been working for the previous 11 years. Even today, I have discovered that a number of the firms that will do subcontract work like CNC blade grinding for small companies have about all the work that they can handle.
Ankerson said:
Most of it has to do with demand for the products being higher than the US Factories can keep up with so they have to farm out some models to keep up with that demand.
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Esav Benyamin said:
What business do you own or run? Businesses exist to make money to support their owners and employees. Chinese businesses, American businesses, Wal-Mart big box store businesses. If you never met a payroll but you say "Wally World destroying Small Town America" then you don't know which way the money flows. A snapshot is nothing more than a moment in time. What brought customers into Wal-Mart in the first place?

I see the big stores lined up on the highway a couple miles north of here, on land that was vacant a few years ago. No one was destroyed, it's all new growth. Ask the township there if they like the new tax base. Ask the people in this area if they like the new shopping area. You can't ask the people it put out of business because there weren't any.

If an area is depressed and losing its economic base and even its population, and a big box comes in with the clout to cut a better tax deal, and provides discount products, this is not destroying America.
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I have and do have to make payroll every week...

IF you ever come down I can drive you through more than a few towns that used to be good before they came to town, now all that is left is nothing but maybe a few Hair cut places, lots of crime and the Vacant Building Wal-Mart used to be in before they moved just out of town limits to avoid the taxes. Now the people HAVE to shop at Wal-Mart at VERY high prices or drive 25 miles to get to another Store, and that's just one town..... Like I said, a Plague.....

Stupidity is what brings people to Wal-Mart, not being able to see down the road a year or two once their town is wrecked and they have no other options but Wal-Mart and the high prices they are left paying... Like I said, Stupidity.....

Now in the bigger Cities they can't really Compete, at least not here anyway, but they still bring in the bad elements and crime into the areas were they are.

Keeping it on topic as Thomas wanted. :)

I support American Made as much as I can as long as the quality is there.
 
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Jim, that may be a chicken/egg thing. The demand is arguably too high because we lost a lot of capacity over the years. When Al Mar went looking to have his not very cheap knives made back in the late 70's, he went to Seki, not Portland where he had been working for the previous 11 years. Even today, I have discovered that a number of the firms that will do subcontract work like CNC blade grinding for small companies have about all the work that they can handle.
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I think it's all about volume, once things get to be more than they can handle they have to expand (Expensive) or farm out the work.
 
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I think it's all about volume, once things get to be more than they can handle they have to expand (Expensive) or farm out the work.
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No Jim that's not how it works. You don't even get involved if it's more than you can handle. Big Box biz is complicated, there are lots of expectations. It's business for very few manufacturers (domestic or import).
 
Thomas W said:
No Jim that's not how it works. You don't even get involved if it's more than you can handle.
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If the demand is more than one can supply something has to happen, well they could just jack up the prices or find away to meet the high demand.
 
Thomas W said:
No Jim that's not how it works. You don't even get involved if it's more than you can handle. Big Box biz is complicated, there are lots of expectations. It's business for very few manufacturers (domestic or import).
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Yeah I know it is complicated, got the run down on it a few years back, more than I would really want to deal with due to some of the things I was told.
 
While it's nearly impossible to avoid buying some products that were made on the cheap I can certainly control where my knife money goes. I have cut my folder collection way down by trading/selling those made overseas. Were they bad knives? of course not but that isn't the "point" is it.

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RetiredGuns said:
While it's nearly impossible to avoid buying some products that were made on the cheap I can certainly control where my knife money goes. I have cut my folder collection way down by trading/selling those made overseas. Were they bad knives? of course not but that isn't the "point" is it.

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Were your scales made in Germany? TRAITOR!!

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RetiredGuns said:
While it's nearly impossible to avoid buying some products that were made on the cheap I can certainly control where my knife money goes. I have cut my folder collection way down by trading/selling those made overseas. Were they bad knives? of course not but that isn't the "point" is it.

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Being a minimalist lately, you've got about all of the folders a man should need. Maybe missing something small like a slipjoint for Dress Blues carry. Semper Fi RetiredGuns! ;)
 
bobusx said:
Were your scales made in Germany? TRAITOR!!

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You mean Kevin Wilkins? The man was born in Texas and is still an American unless he denounced his citizenship.

We'll let Retiredguns off on a technicality. :p:p
 
RetiredGuns said:
While it's nearly impossible to avoid buying some products that were made on the cheap I can certainly control where my knife money goes. I have cut my folder collection way down by trading/selling those made overseas. Were they bad knives? of course not but that isn't the "point" is it.

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Knives are one of the last things that one can really control that for sure. :thumbup:
 
Closing this off topic thread.
 
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