Waning appeal of super steel

Another steel I carry frequently. It is a very purpose driven steel. For what it is and what it does it is perfect!

Good point about H-1, Cray. "Impervious to corrosion" kinda sounds like a super power in my book.

I live right on the ocean, and still have never had a problem with corrosion with even 1095. Back when I worked on the docks, I had a Benchmade CQC7 in ATS-34 that never saw a bit of corrosion. Maybe in the hands of somebody that took less care of a knife than I do it might not have fared so well, I don't know.

I'd try H-1, but I see it mostly in Spyderco stuff... and I'm just not a fan of Spyderco is all.

So is H-1 a "supersteel"? Now we're back to the semantics of "supersteel" again. Another reason I don't care for the term.
 
All of the salt flying around here is gonna make me wish my entire collection was H1.

Why are you bringing me up? All I did is suggest the dude put him on ignore if he was bothered. Is this about to be another bladeforums troll gang attack because someone told craytab to chill out?

Good point about H-1, Cray. "Impervious to corrosion" kinda sounds like a super power in my book.

I live right on the ocean, and still have never had a problem with corrosion with even 1095. Back when I worked on the docks, I had a Benchmade CQC7 in ATS-34 that never saw a bit of corrosion. Maybe in the hands of somebody that took less care of a knife than I do it might not have fared so well, I don't know.

I'd try H-1, but I see it mostly in Spyderco stuff... and I'm just not a fan of Spyderco is all.

So is H-1 a "supersteel"? Now we're back to the semantics of "supersteel" again. Another reason I don't care for the term.

It does tick one of Cobalt's boxes! It is at least the best at something.
 
It does tick one of Cobalt's boxes! It is at least the best at something.

LOL... indeed! Appears if we can't have one superhero that does it all, we'll have to assemble a team akin to X-Men or Avengers... each steel with it's own unique super power.

Dang it, so much for trimming down my collection to only one knife.
 
LOL... indeed! Appears if we can't have one superhero that does it all, we'll have to assemble a team akin to X-Men or Avengers... each steel with it's own unique super power.

Dang it, so much for trimming down my collection to only one knife.

You know that wouldn't happen even if there was this magical perfect super steel.
 
The difference is, unobtanium isn't real. That said, Gaston has likely used it and considers it inferior.

And adamantium is, lol....

Adamantium is a fictional metal alloy appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics, and is best known as the substance bonded to the character Wolverine's skeleton and claws. Adamantium was created by writer Roy Thomas and artists Barry Windsor-Smith and Syd Shores in Marvel Comics' Avengers #66 (July 1969), which presents the substance as part of the character Ultron's outer shell.[1] In the stories where it appears, the defining quality of adamantium is its practical indestructibility.
 
The super steels do have a certain appeal to me just because I like knives. But frankly, I am pretty darn comfortable with middle grade steels and middle grade knives in general. I have more knives than I will use in two lifetimes and adding more only makes sense as a hobby.... and I add more every year.

The folding knives that I handle and fondle the most are generally traditionals. I just like them and adding another in the same pattern and maker with different handles makes sense to me. The same would apply to certain fixed blades. Blackjack or Bark River knives are ones of them that I might buy just because I like the handle.
 
That guy? Ha. Dude has been here all of 15 minutes, contributes nothing, walks in and tells us all he is a former mod of a much bigger and scarier forum, and suggest there should be a place where we can discuss shuck of topic things. Like anyone is going to listen to that guy.



He does have a certain effect on people.....



Another steel I carry frequently. It is a very purpose driven steel. For what it is and what it does it is perfect!

Wanna be mod post
 
Wanna be mod post

I said it in the Feedback thread but will go into a little more detail now. You're following another member around the forum making off-topic posts. You're trolling him and you need to stop. W&C to fight it out or report any posts you think to be in violation of site rules.
 
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You heard him Bodog, take it to the parking lot! :)
 
I said it in the Feedback thread but will go into a little more detail now. You're following another member around the forum making off-topic posts. You're trolling him and you need to stop. W&C to fight it out or report any posts you think to be in violation of site rules.

Roger that. The dude got to me. It was my bad and i deserve the warning I got for it.
 
This one. Not sure of the name. I'd have to go get the tube. I know it was the forum knife a while back. I won it in a very generous GAW. I'm not a traditional guy but this thing has amazed me. The Wharncliffe blade has been very useful.

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Another diverse metallurgical carry day. 1095, AUS6, and M390.

That's the 2012 BFC Traditional Forum Knife. The numbers on the wharncliffe indicate the pattern #74 the blade combination 82 and the year it was manufactured 12. I have one as well. It's a very nice knife. With that much blade length in a compact package it's quite handy.
 
That's the 2012 BFC Traditional Forum Knife. The numbers on the wharncliffe indicate the pattern #74 the blade combination 82 and the year it was manufactured 12. I have one as well. It's a very nice knife. With that much blade length in a compact package it's quite handy.

Thanks! It is quite handy and handsome.
 
Personally I find "super steel" to be yet another meaningless marketing buzzword. Materials can be optimized for various uses, there's no one best anything. I find that slipjoints with 1095 are easy to sharpen, take a great edge, and hold it through plenty of daily tasks. I maintain the blades on a Sharpmaker. I also have knives with CTS-XHP, D2, SR-101, 440A, 440C, S110V, S30V, CPM-M4, Aogami Super Blue, H1, 14C28N, 8Cr13MoV, 9Cr13MoV, and others. They all work fine for EDC. I don't even need a fancy lock.

One reason that high wear resistance steels aren't always the best choice is that dulling isn't always through slow wear. It can be through impact damage, chipping, etc, meaning high carbide fraction high wear resistance steels don't actually hold an edge longer but they require more work to restore the edge because sharpening on stones is slow wear. There's also apex stability to consider. Do you want a fillet knife or chefs knife with a thick edge and large inclusive edge angle? A thinner knife will cut better for most materials. All the testing I've seen shows that cutting performance increases as the edge angle decreases. The trick is to get it as low as possible without having it sustain damage. This is going to depend on the steel and the type of work involved. Doing this will increase cutting performance and edge retention.

There are too many variables to say steel A is always better than steel B. Cutting hemp rope doesn't show performance for anything other than cutting materials similar to hemp rope, for example. What about cutting fish? What about beef butchering? What if we need saltwater corrosion resistance? What if corrosion resistance is irrelevant but we need high apex stability for cutting soft, non-abrasive media? The best steel for cutting soft, non-abrasive materials is probably not the best steel for cutting hard, non-abrasive materials or soft, abrasive materials. Different alloys and heat treatments yield different material properties. Knowing what tasks you need to perform can help lead to choosing the most optimized steel for a given task. For most people on a day to day basis the choice of steel is most likely irrelevant and other factors about the knife will be more important. For me "super steel" means nothing. IMO it's better to try to talk in more concrete terms if we're really trying to discuss performance. YMMV and all that.
 
Have/had better things to do but still took the time to post/respond?

Was it the B-dog giving heads up?

The only reason that I am going to dignify this 2nd trolling of me is because bodog got his knuckles rapped for trolling craytab...

1. It was NOT bodog that gave me the heads up on the post, and
2. Total time invested in both of my replies is 5-6 minutes so I have not taken much time to respond but I am sure craytab appreciates your support, not that he needs it
 
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Super steels are probably more of an appeal thing than an actual need. Common steels such as 154cm, 420hc, 440c, etc definitely have their place and work just fine for everyday tasks. I own a Benchmade Contego with a CPM M4 blade and really like it. I don't need a knife with a super steel blade, I don't normally need a knife to perform heavy duty tasks. It really comes down to the individual and what appeals to them.
 
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