Well...It's Friday...

Nice ones VANCE!

This will make the orange haters' eyes bleed. :)

Electric Orange on Orange liner.

 
OK, I'm starting an Orange thread, since it's not Friday and I would hate for folks to miss out on all the purdy orange in the depths of this thread.
 
Is it just me, or are lots of folks backing out once they snag something in a Friday Frenzy? Used to be rare, but it seems to be very common-- as in 3-5 folks per Friday. I just don't want to get into more and more rules like, if you post "I'll take X,Y, and Z" then you can only back out on "X, Y, and Z." Which I can only imagine will make Ken's head explode. I don't want to do the forensics to even see if this is what's happening, but I sense that we may need to do a little self reflection as this week's campfire embers fade.... Ultimately not my call in any way, but I suspect if I've noticed it then many more have also; because, as my wife says, "You are not exactly the most attentive person out there."

Swonut,

You are not imaging this. You powers of perception are just fine.

Since the beginning of 2015, it has become more common than not that at least one (and frequently more) people to post "I'll take it" replies only to back out later when the frenzy dies down and it is time to pay up. I am not even going to sugar coat how disgusted I feel when I read a casual reply from a "Buyer" on Page 3, 4, or 5 that says, "Hi Ken, I am going to back out on buying the knife or knives I committed to buy because (insert lame excuse de jour here____________________.")

To me it comes down to one of two things with these people. Either they are too lazy to do the research ahead of time by sending a short PM to Ken or Vance to verify specific details of a knife they are interested in or they are being selfish pigs by claiming two or three knives when they know in advance they only intend to buy one. Either way, it is disrespectful to the other sharks and it is especially disrespectful of the fine folks at Fiddleback Forge who depend on real sales to meet their payroll and expenses. Ken & Andy are too polite too alienate potential customers by saying how they really feel about this, but I can assure that they would much rather reply ahead of time to a quick PM with a question about steel thickness, tang type, liner color, etc., than have to do much more work later to unravel a "sale" and have to look for another real buyer when many of them have already logged off because the one knife they wanted had "sold." Backing out on "I'll take it" commitments as a matter of course is not ethical behavior. If you doubt this, try posting a bunch of "I'll take it" replies to sales threads in the regular Exchange here and see what happens when you back out on them.

I realize that having the integrity to let your "Yes" be "Yes" and your "No" be "No" may be an ancient principle, but it is one that I firmly believe in and personally ascribe to. I have never posted an "I'll take it" reply on a FF and not followed through with the purchase and I commit that I never will in the future. I encourage all of you to consider committing to this standard also as a sign of respect to Fiddleback Forge and your fellow friends and sharks on this forum.

Phil
 
Swonut,

I realize that having the integrity to let your "Yes" be "Yes" and your "No" be "No" may be an ancient principle, but it is one that I firmly believe in and personally ascribe to. I have never posted an "I'll take it" reply on a FF and not followed through with the purchase and I commit that I never will in the future. I encourage all of you to consider committing to this standard also as a sign of respect to Fiddleback Forge and your fellow friends and sharks on this forum.

Phil

Well said Phil. I'll commit to this.

Just a suggestion for the team:
Perhaps a shot taken at a slight angle that could just capture the spine including any liners, etc. and then tagging the photos in Fotki with a simple description such as: 5/32" 01, in my opinion could potentially save lots of time replying to the "It's Friday" thread or individual PM's. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
Swonut,

You are not imaging this. You powers of perception are just fine.

Since the beginning of 2015, it has become more common than not that at least one (and frequently more) people to post "I'll take it" replies only to back out later when the frenzy dies down and it is time to pay up. I am not even going to sugar coat how disgusted I feel when I read a casual reply from a "Buyer" on Page 3, 4, or 5 that says, "Hi Ken, I am going to back out on buying the knife or knives I committed to buy because (insert lame excuse de jour here____________________.")

To me it comes down to one of two things with these people. Either they are too lazy to do the research ahead of time by sending a short PM to Ken or Vance to verify specific details of a knife they are interested in or they are being selfish pigs by claiming two or three knives when they know in advance they only intend to buy one. Either way, it is disrespectful to the other sharks and it is especially disrespectful of the fine folks at Fiddleback Forge who depend on real sales to meet their payroll and expenses. Ken & Andy are too polite too alienate potential customers by saying how they really feel about this, but I can assure that they would much rather reply ahead of time to a quick PM with a question about steel thickness, tang type, liner color, etc., than have to do much more work later to unravel a "sale" and have to look for another real buyer when many of them have already logged off because the one knife they wanted had "sold." Backing out on "I'll take it" commitments as a matter of course is not ethical behavior. If you doubt this, try posting a bunch of "I'll take it" replies to sales threads in the regular Exchange here and see what happens when you back out on them.

I realize that having the integrity to let your "Yes" be "Yes" and your "No" be "No" may be an ancient principle, but it is one that I firmly believe in and personally ascribe to. I have never posted an "I'll take it" reply on a FF and not followed through with the purchase and I commit that I never will in the future. I encourage all of you to consider committing to this standard also as a sign of respect to Fiddleback Forge and your fellow friends and sharks on this forum.

Phil

Wow...I back out one time in the history of Fiddleback Friday (this past friday) and you're disgusted with me. You sir do not have the right to call me...lazy, a selfish pig, disrespectful, question my ethical behavior and integrity.

Chris
 
I'm new to FF's and FB's all together. I like the competitiveness of the whole idea. Maybe I'm stirring the pot a little by saying this, but I think there would be less "crawdad'n/backing out"..if everyone got all the info at the same time via the new Fiddleback Friday sales thread. It would of course mean that potential buyer would have to actually read the sales thread description/descriptions of the knives they are interested in, before posting.
I understand that FF's have been going on way before I knew about FB's. My suggestions may not even be in the ballpark for the powers that be of addressing the issue. I'm only making a suggestion.
DB
 
I agree with phil, but on that note, if these people had not backed out I would not have scored the last two knives I wanted. So, I say let it go. Don't claim it if you can't pay for it but if it turns out it's not what you want then pass it to the next buyer.
 
I have to admit I have been guilty of being a selfish pig, but what do you expect, I migrated from the Busse camp! :p

I have two words in my defense, Feeding Frenzy!!! :eek:

 
Hogs will digest everything but the teeth., and those can be dissolved in a bit of salt and vinegar.
 
That's is a nice Asp Gus. Simple black over an orange liner makes for a very nice handle.

If i commit something I follow through, but it doesn't bother me for someone to back off a claim on a knife. Though something to consider is to make the sales post and lock the thread to give individuals time to browse then unlock it at game time. Would save a lot of work replying to knife description requests and might cut back the throwing of knives back into the waters.
 
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