What CAN I carry in NYC?

Josh K said:
It could be, but it has all the checkmarks of a legal knife. Fixed, concealed, <4" blade length.

And I would rather loose this then the Umnumzaan it replaced as my daily city EDC.
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I hear ya! I'm personally more concerned with potential weapons charges and the hassle/stress of appearing in court than I am of losing a few hundred bucks on a knife.

For me, slip joint SAK all the way.
 
picklepie159 said:
In the eyes of hipsters,

Black = tactical
Hole= tactical
G10= tactical
Locking mechanism = tactical
Pocket clip = tactical

IMHO, I would think that's too risky. Still, to each his own.
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Where are these hipster LEO's? :confused:

Keep it in your pocket! I EDC'ed an Umnumzaan for five months with no issues. Police officers aren't walking down the streets frisking people. Put it in your pocket, don't flash it around, don't act like a vagrant.


Kurtz265 said:
I hear ya! I'm personally more concerned with potential weapons charges and the hassle/stress of appearing in court than I am of losing a few hundred bucks on a knife.

For me, slip joint SAK all the way.
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If I was a SAK kinda guy I would agree, but I'm not. :o
 
Well if for some reason I go to NYC I will be carrying my G26 & my IZULA. Yes is breaking the law, ans YES it will be concealed. Now with that benig said I have no reason to go to NYC.........
 
As mentioned before, KEEP IT IN YOUR POCKET.

Best is 3 1 /2 " fixed blade concealed.

They do stop and frisk and you don't have to be a vargrant.

Cousin got stopped after seeing his mom in the hospital, does construction and she when to emergency surgery.

He walked out the doors and cop stopped him due to seeing the clip. He went to court for 1yr and 3 months for having a razor with clip use use for cutting sheet rock.

S/F<
CEYA!
 
Josh K said:
Be serious, a 3.5" knife is not your primary form of offense. I don't have a Sebenza on hand at work, but looking at it in hand I don't think it's bigger then a open Lg. Sebenza, which makes it on the small side for a fixed blade knife.
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I wouldn't take it as a primary form of offense if I was on a battlefield.

But to have a knife concealed as a weapon in NYC, if I were (which for the record never would) it would be one just about this size.

No way, no how, no ever would I carry any fixed blade knife in NYC. On my best day during a zombie apocalypse I wouldn't take a knife called a "Professional Soldier" to NYC!
 
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lol A clock with a bell. When confronted with an assailant, you pull out the clock and say "Don't be alarmed."
Then you bash him in the face with it while he still looks puzzled.
If your trained in stick fight go for a a regular walking cane or stick. That can put someone down fast.
 
I would carry what ever you feel comfortable with, bear in mind that you may or may not be stoped and questioned about it, would you rather be prepared for an event of cower over what "could happen". Just my two cents.
 
I work in NYC and ride the subway everyday. Yes normal looking people are stopped and frisked in the subway, every day.

The police set up tables in various locations and randomly "select" people entering the subway to empty their personal belongings on the table.

I carry a cheap slipjoint in my pocket , if I'm ever asked why by NYPD , I will say it's for breaking down boxes at work and cutting my sandwich at lunchtime.

I used to keep a small locking knife in my brief case until a guy walking right next to me was stopped and frisked.
 
tom19176 said:
NYC needs to be taken to task about their total casting aside of the Second and Fourth Amendments......The NYPD Officers are forced to "stop and Frisk" a set number of persons and fill out a 250 form to prove they did....Yes there is even a quota for this form...Read this:

http://gothamist.com/2011/02/23/nypd_stop_and_frisks_reach_record_h.php
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You have a right to refuse the search. They can ask all they want, but without any cause its a blatant violation of the fourth amendment if they force a search on you. If they tried that on me I would politely say no and keep walking.

I know somebody will know tell me they will "find a cause". Like "saw a buldge", "thought I saw a clip", etc, etc. If you politely refuse and continue to walk its unlikely any decent cop will force the issue. I know, its not impossible to have some indecent cops force it.
 
JPD1998 said:
I work in NYC and ride the subway everyday. Yes normal looking people are stopped and frisked in the subway, every day.

The police set up tables in various locations and randomly "select" people entering the subway to empty their personal belongings on the table.
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Is there some sort of legal difference between being on the street and riding the subway? Do you "voluntarily" surrender some of your rights when making use of this public transit?
 
jay, if you have been "selected" for a stop and frisk then there has already been PC made up in the minds of the officers. Now mind you this maybe passing a quarter to your friend in a drug area that an officer states he thought was a hand to hand transaction. The right to pat you down, is really something you can not just "walk away " from when an officer ask you to put your hands on the wall. Failure to follow commands will lead to an arrest. If you read the story, you will see the high percentage of persons stopped with no arrests or summons issued. This is clearly a case of suspending the constitional rights of NYC residents in order to make you safe and sound......Don't forget this is a KNIFE forum, so I focus on the weapon discovery part of a search or pat down. The court allow weapons found during a pat down to stick far more than drugs or any other contra band. This makes it easy for an officer to state his reason for fearing you had a weapon.......
 
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Man, reading this thread just pisses me off... Perhaps try to carry a Mcusta Take in its sheath and take it out when you have to with precaution... Otherwise id go with something cheap like a Spyderco UKPK or a SAK
 
Heavy Hand, the MTA has allowed the entry to the subway to have a random stop and frish of person and belongings as a condition of entry, and if asked to stop you have the "option" to not enter and walk away without being searched...Now if you refuse and walk away, an officer can stop you using other basis to do so, such as he observed a weapon while he was engaged in conversation with you.....
 
HeavyHanded said:
Is there some sort of legal difference between being on the street and riding the subway? Do you "voluntarily" surrender some of your rights when making use of this public transit?
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Actually I've seen it twice on the street too, but I don't know what the circumstances were for the detainment. Both times I was in the Herald Square area near Macy's ( w34 & 7th ave) and the NYPD were detaining young women.

Yesterday morning I saw people being randomly selected after entering Penn Station ( at the Long Island Railroad entrance) and being searched at a table. Several officers were manning the table , another working the crowd and directing commuters to the table. They were stopping men and woman going to work.
 
tom19176 said:
jay, if you have been "selected" for a stop and frisk then there has already been PC made up in the minds of the officers. Now mind you this maybe passing a quarter to your friend in a drug area that an officer states he thought was a hand to hand transaction. The right to pat you down, is really something you can not just "walk away " from when an officer ask you to put your hands on the wall. Failure to follow commands will lead to an arrest. If you read the story, you will see the high percentage of persons stopped with no arrests or summons issued. This is clearly a case of suspending the constitional rights of NYC residents in order to make you safe and sound......Don't forget this is a KNIFE forum, so I focus on the weapon discovery part of a search or pat down. The court allow weapons found during a pat down to stick far more than drugs or any other contra band. This makes it easy for an officer to state his reason for fearing you had a weapon.......
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This is unreal! Thanks, I will make a point to be "compliant" if asked. Seriously, thanks Tom. You might have just saved me an arrest and a night in jail.

This is total BS. I'm amazed the ACLU hasn't gotten into this one.
 
tom19176 said:
Heavy Hand, the MTA has allowed the entry to the subway to have a random stop and frish of person and belongings as a condition of entry, and if asked to stop you have the "option" to not enter and walk away without being searched...Now if you refuse and walk away, an officer can stop you using other basis to do so, such as he observed a weapon while he was engaged in conversation with you.....
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When the officer stops you walking away because he observed a weapon, does he have to prove that he did actually observe a weapon?

Or does he have to "think" he observed a weapon? ;)
 
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