What happened to CRK???

Ajack60 said:
The reason I got into frame lock, liner lock, back lock, spine lock, etc., knives is because when I was younger, on two occasions I had non locking blades fold on me causing blood to exit my body. Granted, the fault was on the user not the knife. Back then, I just did stuff without thinking about it. Every since I went to a locking blade, I've never had one to fold on me. I don't perform lock strength test on them because if I can't count on the maker to produce a safe, usable knife then I need to carry a fixed blade.
I've learned from my ignorance being young that piercing with a knife should be done in a slight downward motion and never, and I mean never use a non locking blade for a ice pick. Now that I've got a few scars from my youth as a reminder of how dumb I was, I've gotten back into non locking blades because now I think more about what I'm doing.

luh1202 luh1202 ....... How can anybody not think this is nothing more than a troll thread??????? How come you didn't post one of the other videos of this same clown speaking highly of his Sebenza???? You chose one that he had to fill in some time with talking about another knife. I find that rather strange. Usually these boobtubers do a longer segment on one particular knife.
Personally, every person that owns a knife, regardless of the brand should do a review of the knife/knives they have. This way, you'd at least have a better variety to choose from and opinions wouldn't be so bias.
Sometimes these attention seekers get into trouble with their 15 min. of fame, think about what went down with Jdavis and smokeeater......just saying.
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I wouldn't say he is a clown, he is just being honest IMO. And I am trying my best not being biased in any way. If you think I am biased, find me another brand with 100$ plus (even 30$ plus) price tag that has a noticeable uneven blade profile. Not to mention CRK is knowing for tight tolerance and nice fit and finish.
 
Oh I definitely agree that gripping a framelock some force is exerted on the lockbar. There's no way I could disagree with that. I am saying that the lockbar falls into part of my grip where it is not benefitting from the tightest part of my grip anyway.

This combined with the fact I probably won't be death gripping my knife when a sudden force to the spine would cause a scenario where the lock might fail. I always wondered would gripping the framelock in this case really reduce the chance of the knife closing by an appreciable ammount?

Lets say that gripping your knife as you normally do you exert that hypothetical 1lb of force on the lockbar. Would it be enough to help prevent closure against a force to the spine that was strong enough to cause the lockbar to fail in the first place?

I just wonder.
 
luh1202 said:
I wouldn't say he is a clown, he is just being honest IMO. And I am trying my best not being biased in any way. If you think I am biased, find me another brand with 100$ plus (even 30$ plus) price tag that has a noticeable uneven blade profile. Not to mention CRK is knowing for tight tolerance and nice fit and finish.
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OMG, you are so new here and to the knife world! I'm not going to waste time listing all the knives that have grind asymmetries, but IT HAPPENS WITH MANY COMPANIES. You can easily google image search and see what I mean.

Most people don't take calipers to their knives. My gripe with the video poster is this. He is suppose to be really good at sharpening and blade geometry. He had sharpened and used this knife for a while before he noticed the "issue". It can't be a big glaring issue and not detectable for many weeks. If your car had a fender out of place (misaligned) and it took you three months to notice... you're not a car guy.
 
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luh1202 said:
I wouldn't say he is a clown, he is just being honest IMO. And I am trying my best not being biased in any way. If you think I am biased, find me another brand with 100$ plus (even 30$ plus) price tag that has a noticeable uneven blade profile. Not to mention CRK is knowing for tight tolerance and nice fit and finish.
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If you look around the forums, there have been posts about such issues with $100-plus Benchmade, Spyderco, ZT, etc., etc., knives.

Jim
 
Lapedog said:
Oh I definitely agree that gripping a framelock some force is exerted on the lockbar. There's no way I could disagree with that. I am saying that the lockbar falls into part of my grip where it is not benefitting from the tightest part of my grip anyway.

This combined with the fact I probably won't be death gripping my knife when a sudden force to the spine would cause a scenario where the lock might fail. I always wondered would gripping the framelock in this case really reduce the chance of the knife closing by an appreciable ammount?

Lets say that gripping your knife as you normally do you exert that hypothetical 1lb of force on the lockbar. Would it be enough to help prevent closure against a force to the spine that was strong enough to cause the lockbar to fail in the first place?

I just wonder.
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This is actually something I would like to see tested. Spine closing force vs. lateral force applied to the frame lock. Might get a FL just to try it out...
 
i can't remember where or when i saw it, but there's an interview with Chris Reeves where he mentions that he catches "goof ups" in the factory all the time. unless someone as able as the man himself is catching these goof ups in the factory now, then those knives are ending up in the consumers' hands. anyone remember that interview? i'd be interested to see/hear/watch it again after knowing this is going on
 
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josh yu said:
i can't remember where or when i saw it, but there's an interview with Chris Reeves where he mentions that he catches "goof ups" in the factory all the time. unless someone as able as the man himself is catching these goof ups in the factory now, then those knives are ending up in the consumer's hands. anyone remember that interview? i'd be interested to see/hear/watch it again after knowing this is going on
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The only issue I've ever had with a CRK was an extremely dull edge on a NIB Sebenza back in 2002 (which I reprofiled myself), when Chris was fully in charge of the company. Even then, it's unlikely that he was personally checking each and every single knife that left the shop. I'm not saying it was Chris's fault; I'm saying that things can slip through regardless of who's in charge. My Umnumzaan from 2011, as well as the 3 CRKs I have that were made after Chris left have had zero issues.

Jim
 
James Y said:
The only issue I've ever had with a CRK was an extremely dull edge on a NIB Sebenza back in 2002 (which I reprofiled myself), when Chris was fully in charge of the company. Even then, it's unlikely that he was personally checking each and every single knife that left the shop. I'm not saying it was Chris's fault; I'm saying that things can slip through regardless of who's in charge. My Umnumzaan from 2011, as well as the 3 CRKs I have that were made after Chris left have had zero issues.

Jim
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i'm not claiming that all knives got worse. quality control is a partially a probability thing. it means slightly more defective knives are making it out of the factory. I 100% believe you have perfectly good knives that meet CRK standards. I have a beautiful, and to my standards, perfectly made June 2015 Mnandi (which according to the discussions above, are kind of post Chris). What we are discussing here is the fact that there seem to be more less than stellar knives slipping out of the factory, and the chances of getting a lemon, like the one in the video from OP is now higher
 
josh yu said:
i'm not claiming that all knives got worse. quality control is a partially a probability thing. it means slightly more defective knives are making it out of the factory. I 100% believe you have perfectly good knives that meet CRK standards. I have a beautiful, and to my standards, perfectly made June 2015 Mnandi (which according to the discussions above, are kind of post Chris). What we are discussing here is the fact that there seem to be more less than stellar knives slipping out of the factory, and the chances of getting a lemon, like the one in the video from OP is now higher
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Can you share your data with us? Something like number of new knives leaving CRK vs. number of knives being sent in for QC issues, before and after Chris Reeve leaving CRK.
 
steff27 said:
Can you share your data with us? Something like number of new knives leaving CRK vs. number of knives being sent in for QC issues, before and after Chris Reeve leaving CRK.
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i don't have data, i don't have an answer, i don't know if i'm right. this is a discussion on the topic. if you look back to my original comment, i'm just chiming in with the fact that Chris used to catch "goof ups"

josh yu said:
i can't remember where or when i saw it, but there's an interview with Chris Reeves where he mentions that he catches "goof ups" in the factory all the time. unless someone as able as the man himself is catching these goof ups in the factory now, then those knives are ending up in the consumers' hands. anyone remember that interview? i'd be interested to see/hear/watch it again after knowing this is going on
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josh yu said:
i can't remember where or when i saw it, but there's an interview with Chris Reeves where he mentions that he catches "goof ups" in the factory all the time. unless someone as able as the man himself is catching these goof ups in the factory now, then those knives are ending up in the consumers' hands. anyone remember that interview? i'd be interested to see/hear/watch it again after knowing this is going on
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That's actually on the "meet your maker" series from bladehq. I almost sure it's on part 2.
 
I watched a few of this guy's vids yesterday.
He seems like the kind of guy who feels the rest of the world could never hopemto be half as smart as he is.
He has bashed Benchmade. Says he knows people that worked there and they told him horror stories about what goes on there.
He blasts every kind of locking mech in existence.
He is a smarmy, antagonistic know it all who loves to hear himself talk about how wonderful he is.
These assertions are my opinions after watching a few of his vids.
Oh!! He sharpens knives and you better know that no one on earth knows how to sharpen like him.
He will gladly let you know he's better than the Sanctimonious Apostle and will get your knives back to you MUCH faster.
Guy makes me nauseous. I won't pay attention to anything he says, because ALL of it is just self serving BS.
Joe
 
palonej said:
I watched a few of this guy's vids yesterday.
He seems like the kind of guy who feels the rest of the world could never hopemto be half as smart as he is.
He has bashed Benchmade. Says he knows people that worked there and they told him horror stories about what goes on there.
He blasts every kind of locking mech in existence.
He is a smarmy, antagonistic know it all who loves to hear himself talk about how wonderful he is.
These assertions are my opinions after watching a few of his vids.
Oh!! He sharpens knives and you better know that no one on earth knows how to sharpen like him.
He will gladly let you know he's better than the Sanctimonious Apostle and will get your knives back to you MUCH faster.
Guy makes me nauseous. I won't pay attention to anything he says, because ALL of it is just self serving BS.
Joe
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I swear I heard him say in one of his videos that most people can't sharpen 20CV blades. I turned it off after that. Those of us that sharpen our knives with 20CV must be a very select few....
 
DRLyman said:
I swear I heard him say in one of his videos that most people can't sharpen 20CV blades. I turned it off after that. Those of us that sharpen our knives with 20CV must be a very select few....
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I'm sharpening challenged, and can still sharpen 20V/M390 (adequetly, not perfectly...) on a sharpmaker. it's my current favorite steel over the other "super steels" (S90, S110, etc.), because i can actually sharpen it
 
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josh yu said:
I'm sharpening challenged, and can still sharpen s20V/M390 (adequetly, not perfectly...) on a sharpmaker. it's my current favorite steel over the other "super steels" (S90, S110, etc.), because i can actually sharpen it
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Yep, and it's a great steel in my opinion. The Sharpmaker should work great for you. I use it for quick touch ups with the white fine rods. If I need to reprofile, I use something else.
 
palonej said:
I watched a few of this guy's vids yesterday.
He seems like the kind of guy who feels the rest of the world could never hopemto be half as smart as he is.
He has bashed Benchmade. Says he knows people that worked there and they told him horror stories about what goes on there.
He blasts every kind of locking mech in existence.
He is a smarmy, antagonistic know it all who loves to hear himself talk about how wonderful he is.
These assertions are my opinions after watching a few of his vids.
Oh!! He sharpens knives and you better know that no one on earth knows how to sharpen like him.
He will gladly let you know he's better than the Sanctimonious Apostle and will get your knives back to you MUCH faster.
Guy makes me nauseous. I won't pay attention to anything he says, because ALL of it is just self serving BS.
Joe
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Thank you Joe. ;)
 
Pretty funny reading these type of threads...some threads say that Chris Reeves is a mean pompous a-hole (true) and we should never buy his knives....and now we have a whole thread based on the premise that the company and its products may be worse because his wife and son (who are not a-holes) now run the business. Ha ha
 
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