What happened to CRK???

Blues Bender said:
If you're that enamored by a knife then you need a more interesting life.
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And lo, understanding the Sebenza is like treasure hidden in a field, which someone found and hid; then in his joy he goes and sells all his lesser knives and buys that field. Again, understanding the Sebenza is like a merchant in search of fine pearls; on finding one pearl of great value, he went and sold all the other knives that he had and bought it.

He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
 
You guys crack me up but that's a good thing being I'm spending months in a VA hosp far from home & no offence intended. Sounds like CRK has a few NFG's on board but their core values seems to not have changed a lick, so on the outside chance someone gets one that's less than perfect they're making it right pronto and the world is ok once again. Thanks guys for helping me laugh, it's good for my health and much appreciated given my present condition. Your pal, tom
 
Been praying on your behalf for some time now Tom.
Hoping the news is good and you're feeling well my friend.
Joe

skyhorse said:
You guys crack me up but that's a good thing being I'm spending months in a VA hosp far from home & no offence intended. Sounds like CRK has a few NFG's on board but their core values seems to not have changed a lick, so on the outside chance someone gets one that's less than perfect they're making it right pronto and the world is ok once again. Thanks guys for helping me laugh, it's good for my health and much appreciated given my present condition. Your pal, tom
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skyhorse said:
You guys crack me up but that's a good thing being I'm spending months in a VA hosp far from home & no offence intended. Sounds like CRK has a few NFG's on board but their core values seems to not have changed a lick, so on the outside chance someone gets one that's less than perfect they're making it right pronto and the world is ok once again. Thanks guys for helping me laugh, it's good for my health and much appreciated given my present condition. Your pal, tom
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Get well soon Tom. If you want to chat shoot me a PM.
 
Great thread. I haven't been in the subforum much since they went to IDAHO MADE on the knives. Just don't care for that and there isn't an option like with the ugly blue thumbstuds.

Lots of good info here, wish they'd add it to the history & timeline faqs.

Cold Steel test is nonsense. The whole point of the frame lock is to hold it in your hand and reinforce the lock forces.

Hope Mr Reeve has good fortune in the future. You too skyhorse.
 
This thread comes at an interesting time for me. I actually was in Boise last Monday and had the opportunity to meet Tim and get a guided tour around their production facilities. I didn't know all of the background from this thread (or discuss it with Tim) but I can comment on what I saw and how Tim described the business. Tim had no idea who I was and it was very cool of him to spend 30 minutes with me. In general terms,they produce more than 1,000 knives per month and are not a low volume custom shop. They outsource some basic functions, utilize computer assisted machines for other core processes and utilize hand operated machines and hand finishing for other important steps. I was impressed that their core processes ensure trueness, flatness and accuracy down to very small, tight tolerances. During each step of production that I looked at, Tim reinforced how closely the company tracked those tolerances. So feel comfortable that nothing has changed in that regard. Another item that impressed me was that Tim was not focused on upping production or cutting corners to make more money. It did sound like Tim is interested in evolving the company to provide new and cool products and features to their customers in addition to the established products. That does not feel unnatural to me but someone may feel otherwise. I left feeling that the product was worth the money and that I probably needed one in my pocket. I am a true knife addict after all, Ha ha.
 
shunsui said:
Great thread. I haven't been in the subforum much since they went to IDAHO MADE on the knives. Just don't care for that and there isn't an option like with the ugly blue thumbstuds.

Lots of good info here, wish they'd add it to the history & timeline faqs.

Cold Steel test is nonsense. The whole point of the frame lock is to hold it in your hand and reinforce the lock forces.

Hope Mr Reeve has good fortune in the future. You too skyhorse.
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Honestly I don't believe for myself gripping the framelock lockbar prevents the knife from unlocking. I think any force strong enough to cause the framelock bar to slip off the tang isn't going to be stopped by the grip you hold the knife with during regular use.

I also find the lockbar on most framelocks seems to sit in the crook of my curled fingers where not alot of force is being exerted on it. This is doubly true for me as I am left handed using right handed knives.
 
Lapedog said:
Honestly I don't believe for myself gripping the framelock lockbar prevents the knife from unlocking. I think any force strong enough to cause the framelock bar to slip off the tang isn't going to be stopped by the grip you hold the knife with during regular use.

I also find the lockbar on most framelocks seems to sit in the crook of my curled fingers where not alot of force is being exerted on it. This is doubly true for me as I am left handed using right handed knives.
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You mean, if you are exerting pressure against the cutting edge of the knife, you would believe that the lockbar would collapse..grip not withstanding?
The pressure in this case would be against the stop pin and stop sleeve and would have little to do with the lockbar at all. The CS test was the exact opposite of this- Testing what it would take to make the lockbar fail by exerting pressure on the spine.
Regardless of my personal beliefs into the validity of this test, this is not how the vast majority of knives are used..When i use a knife, its best if the actual cutting edge is used to sever what I need to be cut..The spine does a pretty piss poor job of cutting.
Again, solving a problem that doesn't exist..unless of course, the spine is indeed more efficient at cutting...Two-Fingered-Tony found this out the hard way.
 
bhyde said:
You mean, if you are exerting pressure against the cutting edge of the knife, you would believe that the lockbar would collapse..grip not withstanding?
The pressure in this case would be against the stop pin and stop sleeve and would have little to do with the lockbar at all. The CS test was the exact opposite of this- Testing what it would take to make the lockbar fail by exerting pressure on the spine.
Regardless of my personal beliefs into the validity of this test, this is not how the vast majority of knives are used..When i use a knife, its best if the actual cutting edge is used to sever what I need to be cut..The spine does a pretty piss poor job of cutting.
Again, solving a problem that doesn't exist..unless of course, the spine is indeed more efficient at cutting...Two-Fingered-Tony found this out the hard way.
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I wasn't referring to the CS test, just responding to Shun Sui saying "the whole point of a framelock is you hold the lock and thus reinforce it"

I was just remarking for me, I don't feel like the way I grip a framelock would "reinforce" it against a spine force strong enough to cause the lock to fail. This is because the lockbar sits in the curl of my fingers.

Still some people swear the way they grip a framelock strengthens the lock. Who am I to say they are wrong? Just saying for me it doesn't seem to.
 
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It may be just me, but out of all the ways I use my framelocks, there isn't a single one that doesn't result in pressure on the lockbar in some way, shape or form.
Wonder what increase even 1lb of force on the lockbar would have on the capacity at the end of the blade.
 
The only force to the spine(in and around the jimping) that I can see during normal use., is that exerted by your thumb when making a hard cut(much of the force coming through the handle).This force is countered by the opposite resistance on the edge, by the object you are cutting. So I don't see the Cold steel test as a practical test. Maybe others do. There are a few ways to get Ti framelocks to fail by doing bizarre things-don't do them and you are fine. Growing up with slip joints, you learn quickly what to do and not do with a knife.
 
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The reason I got into frame lock, liner lock, back lock, spine lock, etc., knives is because when I was younger, on two occasions I had non locking blades fold on me causing blood to exit my body. Granted, the fault was on the user not the knife. Back then, I just did stuff without thinking about it. Every since I went to a locking blade, I've never had one to fold on me. I don't perform lock strength test on them because if I can't count on the maker to produce a safe, usable knife then I need to carry a fixed blade.
I've learned from my ignorance being young that piercing with a knife should be done in a slight downward motion and never, and I mean never use a non locking blade for a ice pick. Now that I've got a few scars from my youth as a reminder of how dumb I was, I've gotten back into non locking blades because now I think more about what I'm doing.

luh1202 luh1202 ....... How can anybody not think this is nothing more than a troll thread??????? How come you didn't post one of the other videos of this same clown speaking highly of his Sebenza???? You chose one that he had to fill in some time with talking about another knife. I find that rather strange. Usually these boobtubers do a longer segment on one particular knife.
Personally, every person that owns a knife, regardless of the brand should do a review of the knife/knives they have. This way, you'd at least have a better variety to choose from and opinions wouldn't be so bias.
Sometimes these attention seekers get into trouble with their 15 min. of fame, think about what went down with Jdavis and smokeeater......just saying.
 
When I get a new knife. I use the Brick Test. And the Brick Test uses the same set up, so there's no monkey business going on.

1. 2' X 2' X .75" Stainless Steel Plate ( U.S. Steel )
2. 10# Iron Brick ( U.S. Made )
3. Made a 5' high frame, sort of like a guillotine for the Brick to drop evenly. Brick lays on top of a plate that, when unlatched, drops the Brick down the chute to the steel plate below.
4. Set up, lock brick in position.
5. Put locking knife spine up on SS plate.
6. Unlock Brick, Brick drops on spine.

Conclusion: Every locking knife failed, lost entire collection. Suggest Test not be respeated in future. Now use knives as cutting tools. Sad I have to buy all those knives again. Lesson learned.
 
Lapedog said:
I wasn't referring to the CS test, just responding to Shun Sui saying "the whole point of a framelock is you hold the lock and thus reinforce it"

I was just remarking for me, I don't feel like the way I grip a framelock would "reinforce" it against a sline force strong enough to cause the lock to fail. This is because the lockbar sits in the curl of my fingers.

Still some people swear the way they grip a framelock strengthens the lock. Who am I to say they are wrong? Just saying for me it doesn't seem to.
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No worries, one size doesn't fit all in my experience. Luckily the knife world has more options than most consumer items. Use the knife that works for you.
 
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