What is missing in ESEE's product line?

i'd like to see all the currant knives available with the canvas micarta. extend the blade length to 7 on the esee6.


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Id like to see the thinner full flat grind version of the 5 also, along with uncoated blades and orange handle options.
a scandi ground bushcraft knife would be cool.
the 4Mil Maybe with slightly larger, contoured handle

The laser strike I think it was made by tops, something about RAT making it, looked like a great design. Id pick one up in a heartbeat.
 
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No one outside of the custom market makes a Kephart style knife (Edit, I have been corrected Bark River makes a Kephart style knife, albeit an expensive one). It would fall in well with ESEE's survival / woodscraft style of knife. I would love an ESEE Kephart! I would also like to see Orange Handles as an option on all ESEE knives as an survival knife you can't find is one you may not have.
 
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What's really missing in ESEE's lineup is better steel. I dearly love the design of my 4, but it does a crap job of holding an edge. :( I still carry and use it every day, and, the plus is that it's really easy to resharpen, but I can chop iron wood logs and still shave with my Busse Basic 7. The ESEE is dull after cutting 3 feet of screen. :(
 
What's really missing in ESEE's lineup is better steel. I dearly love the design of my 4, but it does a crap job of holding an edge. :( I still carry and use it every day, and, the plus is that it's really easy to resharpen, but I can chop iron wood logs and still shave with my Busse Basic 7. The ESEE is dull after cutting 3 feet of screen. :(

higher grede steel would probably mean higher cost. And I'd imagine the edge on your basic 7, would be different to the edge on your ESEE 4. But I do agree with you, I would pay extra for a ESEE 4 in A2, or CPM-154 or something, but then I don't think it should replace the 1095 version, and there would have to be enough interest to warrant ESEE making them.
 
....But I do agree with you, I would pay extra for a ESEE 4 in A2, or CPM-154 or something, but then I don't think it should replace the 1095 version....


:eek: OK, here's the great idea of the week. Limited runs of, say, 250 to 500, whatever someone way more savvy in marketing figures is optimum, in whatever steel the blade guru's think is optimum.

Number them, get rid of the choil (I really hate choils, they hang up too much on rip cuts), and put them out as BF special editions. They'd sell like hot cakes. :cool:
 
What's really missing in ESEE's lineup is better steel. I dearly love the design of my 4, but it does a crap job of holding an edge. :( I still carry and use it every day, and, the plus is that it's really easy to resharpen, but I can chop iron wood logs and still shave with my Busse Basic 7. The ESEE is dull after cutting 3 feet of screen. :(

I'll take ROWEN heat treated 1095 over any other carbon steel.
 
Nuke Spook-BRKT makes 2 kephart style knives FYI

Your right Bark River does make a Kephart (I forgot), but price wise, I don't really look at Barkies as production. You can get a custom knife for what a Bark River will run you. I can't see paying 1.5 to 2 times the price of an ESEE for a Bark River when ESEE makes great affordable knives.
 
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I wouldn't mind seeing a couple runs of flat ground blades with 1/4" spines. Like a 4, 6, or even an 8.
 
I wouldn't go as far as to say that, but it certainly holds it's own... I find 1095CV and Koyote's 15N20 to have considerably better edge holding, though I'm certainly not complaining...

Carbon V hasn't ever impressed me. Never noticed any better attributes from it over standard 1095.

Never used anything by Koyote so can't really say.
 
I'll take ROWEN heat treated 1095 over any other carbon steel.

Though nice, no 1095 blade I have ever used, including my RC knives, holds a candle on edge retention to the two CPM 3V knives I have.

Of course, the 3V cost me a lot more up front for the performance difference.:D
 
Though nice, no 1095 blade I have ever used, including my RC knives, holds a candle on edge retention to the two CPM 3V knives I have.

Of course, the 3V cost me a lot more up front for the performance difference.:D

Your only looking at one part of the equation though.

How much edge retention is the perfect ammount? When do we factor in ease of resharpening?

I personally find the ROWEN heat treated 1095 to have a perfect balance (for me! YMMV) of edge retention, flexability and ease of sharpening.

If you've ever had to sharpen your blade with a river rock in the middle of the woods, you'd be loving the ease of sharpening.

I stand by my comment, I would take ROWEN treated 1095 over anything else I've worked with.
 
Its been said before but I'm going to +1 a high quality stainless version of the 3-5

I would love to carry an ESEE in my car, but living in a northern wet climate, (that use a hell of a lot of road salt) such a luxury is impossible without taking far more then reasonable effort to keep it from rusting

Ideally it would go under the drivers seat in case of emergency.
 
Your only looking at one part of the equation though.

How much edge retention is the perfect ammount? When do we factor in ease of resharpening?

I personally find the ROWEN heat treated 1095 to have a perfect balance (for me! YMMV) of edge retention, flexability and ease of sharpening.

If you've ever had to sharpen your blade with a river rock in the middle of the woods, you'd be loving the ease of sharpening.

I stand by my comment, I would take ROWEN treated 1095 over anything else I've worked with.

YMMV is the right saying I suppose. Don't get me wrong, I love Rowan's 1095, but I love the edge retention and corrosion resistance of the 3V more in small knife applications.

Long after my 1095 has given up on a working sharpness the 3V is just getting warmed up. Just last week my Skookum Bush Tool in 3V processed the outer layer off of over 20 large pieces of driftwood good for a several hours long beach fire and didn't even require a touch up, just a stropping with 1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper backed by my thigh. It just kept taking off the salty, sand encrusted layers entirely off of piece after piece in long strips.

The year before, with an RC-4, the task was laborious after just six or seven branches until the edge had to be sharpened up. I just opted for a stinkier fire instead.

The 3V performance of the Rod Garcia knife got my into a satin Fehrman Peace Maker. Neither is the value choice that an RC-4or RC-6 represents though.

A fine DMT diafold beats the hell out of a river rock BTW.:D
 
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