What is with A.G. Russel?

[teacher]

Through the years I have bought from AG on several ocassions. In fact I think I have some of the first Deer Hunters he sold .... along with at least one of every different steel they were made from through the years. [Needlees to say I just love that knife. :thumbup: ...]

I have always found any transaction with A G Russell to be flawless. And while I do not buy every knife from him, I am never sorry when I do.

Keep up the good work AG............ :thumbup:

 

[wolfmann601]

Yes, many unique to A.G. Russell pieces for sure.

I was looking for a Kershaw Tyrade. A.G. has them for $275. Cheaper Than Dirt (which I have had great luck with) has them for $179.00. Other shops that I have gotten knives from have them from $199 to $224. Is the one on A.G.'s site a special edition?

Yeah it is special; it was in stock ready to deliver. The others were probably backordered, out of stock, or waiting for the Distributor to load his truck!!

 

[rick43t3]

Yeah it is special; it was in stock ready to deliver. the others were probably backordered, out of stock, or waiting for the Distributor!!

That's right, but many people don't understand how things work. They just see dollars and cents, without taking into consideration availability, quality, or timeliness of delivery, which I have seen numerous complaints, of how money was taken and the knife was not delivered. The fact that a knife is in hand and can be delivered in a few days is something right there.

 

[flipe8]

Some of his added expense is because he is not simply an internet dealer. He continues to run a mail order catalog business in the caliber of L.L. Bean.

I was going to mention L.L.Bean and how it seems A.G.Russel is in the same category as them when you see how they treat customers(and that's something I wasn't actually aware of before this thread:thumbup

 

[rick43t3]

Just seeing the Hen & Rooster knives made before 1980 on the AGR website makes me want to take out a home equity loan to buy them up. These knives are so fine, that it is incredible. The Pocket Skinner in black rucarter is one of the nicest I have ever seen. It is for slicing and skinning. That's what I'm talkin about!

 

[akadave2]

That's right, but many people don't understand how things work. They just see dollars and cents, without taking into consideration availability, quality, or timeliness of delivery, which I have seen numerous complaints, of how money was taken and the knife was not delivered. The fact that a knife is in hand and can be delivered in a few days is something right there.

Im sorry but this isnt my first rodeo. I shop all over the net. Again because of the lack of local vendors in this arm pit of city I live in. I understand availability all too well. Do I want to pay a $100 premium for a knife that I can have in a week vs 2 maybe 3 weeks? I would hope that I have more patience than that. If CTD doesnt have it...and it is listed on their site, then Bladeshop or any number of a dozen reputable dealer will have it. Will it be more, yes....$100 more? No.

Again....yes A.G. Russell is a houshold word among knife afficianados and yes he has done lots for the industry etc.

This is not trolling.

 

[Slaytanic]

lol, didnt say I was throwing money around. but me and the crew did make it rain friday night. come chill in Vegas one night and see fo yourself. hell if anyone is gonna be in Vegas and wants to see what a real good time is all about hit ya boy up.

but this is getting stupid. I dont have to prove myself to anyone, especially you. the people that matter know

Can I Please please please please, I mean please!! No, I mean REALLY PLEEEEEZE come and "chill" with You and Your crew?? I promise I won't get all stupid and up in Ya'll's grill and shiznoze, while we "hit ya boy up" and "make it rain" Seriously, fo sure son!! See, I'd fit right in

 

[RescueRiley]

AG Rocks!!! 1st class Hombre all the way.. I suppose if someone didn't like it they always open thier own knife store and charge what they want..But I'll buy from A.G. he's done right by me several times.

 

[Keith Montgomery]

I shop all over the net. Again because of the lack of local vendors in this arm pit of city I live in. I understand availability all too well. Do I want to pay a $100 premium for a knife that I can have in a week vs 2 maybe 3 weeks? I would hope that I have more patience than that. If CTD doesnt have it...and it is listed on their site, then Bladeshop or any number of a dozen reputable dealer will have it. Will it be more, yes....$100 more? No.

It appears that you already realize that you are free to purchase knives from whomever you want. So what is the problem? A.G.'s business model has been working for him. If it doesn't work for you, as you've noted, there are many other places for you to make your knife related purchases.

 

[Bastid]

Do these people not check other prices on the net? They are a good 20% higher or more on most of their knives than any other place. How do they stay in business?

The man has been in business for 40 years and you think that post is not trolling?

Please few of us are that dumb.

 

[teacher]

Do these people not check other prices on the net? They are a good 20% higher or more on most of their knives than any other place. How do they stay in business?

Maybe they do.... maybe they don't. I don't know, that is up to them.

I looked up 10 different knives that I myself would be interested in, and your 20% comment would be about right, I'd have to give you that.

How you ask ? I'd have to say by sales... and they must be doing something right to be in business as long as they have........ :thumbup:

My intent was not derrogatory. ~~~~~~~~~~ Sometimes I find it interesting that some online vendors stand out in their pricing (to me if nobody else) and I posted my question looking for the justification. ~~~~~~~~~ Others showed the thin skinned nature of many people today who are easy to outrage and I find humorous to bait.

OK, why would you single out AG Russell though ?

No on line vendor owes you or anybody else any "justification" for their pricing structure. You are free to buy/not buy from them as you choose.

I can also understand, in a way; the "game" of pissing off "thin skinned" people by "baiting" them. However, IMO ........ this is not the place for it when you are dealing with the reputatuion of an honest dealer such as AGR. You singled him out when you started and titled this thread.
Any honest dealer falls into this slot, not just AGR......... leave them alone.

It was not my intention to attract flies, I was looking for discussion.

So Dave............ discuss this if you will.
Why did you single out AGR when you started this thread???
Why not just leave it "generic" ?
Cause for sure there are other dealers with higher and lower prices where ever one chooses to look.

 

[akadave2]

So Dave............ discuss this if you will.
Why did you single out AGR when you started this thread???
Why not just leave it "generic" ?
Cause for sure there are other dealers with higher and lower prices where ever one chooses to look.

I agree in Retrospect I should have left it generic. I mistakenly underestimated the ability of others to go immediatly to emmotional argument instead of discussion of specifics from the point of online purchase of knives. It was not intended as a baiting post either. It turned into this due to a couple of unstable individuals. I guess I "picked" on A.G. Russell because from the few things I researched when buying knives online they came up consistantly as the highest price. I agree if the value add is sufficient then the additional cost is justified. Its just that replies like "Hes been in business for 40 years" and "The service is top notch" (paraphrasing) doesnt address my question. I agree also that if I dont like the prices then I dont have to shop there. That reply was satisfactory.

So, in the future I will keep my posts to things such as "Look at the cool knife I just got" and "Hey what is your favorite steel" and "Mantis knives! Not them again!". So nobody has to worry about controversy from me.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

I agree in Retrospect I should have left it generic. I mistakenly underestimated the ability of others to go immediatly to emmotional argument instead of discussion of specifics from the point of online purchase of knives. It was not intended as a baiting post either. It turned into this due to a couple of unstable individuals. I guess I "picked" on A.G. Russell because from the few things I researched when buying knives online they came up consistantly as the highest price. I agree if the value add is sufficient then the additional cost is justified. Its just that replies like "Hes been in business for 40 years" and "The service is top notch" (paraphrasing) doesnt address my question. I agree also that if I dont like the prices then I dont have to shop there. That reply was satisfactory.

So, in the future I will keep my posts to things such as "Look at the cool knife I just got" and "Hey what is your favorite steel" and "Mantis knives! Not them again!". So nobody has to worry about controversy from me.

Dave, this is ridiculous. You demean yourself by being so defensive. You also insult us by selectively referring to the weakest arguments you read, and leaving out the basic information that clearly refuted your initial question:

1. A.G.Russell is not a mass-market, job-lot, hot-item knifeseller. He is primarily a purveyor of higher-end, high-quality, naturally higher-priced items, not all knives.

2. This being the case, his stock rarely coincides with that of the internet knife dealers you purport to compare him to. Where it does, he carries those items as a courtesy to his customers, which they can pick up while browsing for what only he provides.

3. If you can find some of these knives for less elsewhere, you can buy them there. How much will you have to pay elsewhere for the knives only A.G. offers? How can you compare prices across the board under these circumstances?

3. However emotional we may have gotten over what many took as a deliberate insult to a friend -- but may only have been careless phrasing -- we did supply you with specifics like these I just listed. Again and again.

 

[sunnyd]

. . . So Dave............ discuss this if you will.
Why did you single out AGR when you started this thread???
Why not just leave it "generic" ?
Cause for sure there are other dealers with higher and lower prices where ever one chooses to look.

He has already made it perfectly clear, Quote from akadave2, ".. many people today are easy to outrage and I find it humours to bait."

So what do you say folks, lets all stop feeding the troll.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Rules for Relaxed Internet Rhetoric:

1 The First Law of Holes: When you find you're in one, stop digging.
2. When you win, say little. When you lose, say less.
3. We're all supposed to be friends here. :thumbup:

 

[Kevin Jones]

Walmart serves a purpose. We used to have Five and dimes everywhere. The problem with Walmart is that it is not a neibghborhood five and dime owned by a neighborhood family. It is a voracious pressure point on the market in every department, forcing price and quality down. It is valuable for a part of the consumer class to have entry-level goods. But if those goods don't last, or your children are poisoned by non-existent foreign health & safety codes, it's a false saving.

It is seductive to think of how much cheaper you can get it, but what is "it"? And as others here have said, what do you do when the smaller, quality outlets have been driven out?

Well said.

 

[teacher]

~~~~~~~~~~~~
So, in the future I will keep my posts to things such as "Look at the cool knife I just got" and "Hey what is your favorite steel" and "Mantis knives! Not them again!". So nobody has to worry about controversy from me.

:jerkit:
Whatever..............


Seems you are either "on" or "off " ... try for some middle ground.

 

[Silverdagger]

It was not intended as a baiting post either.

AKADAVE2 says this, yet on post 98 he says, and I quote: "Others showed the thin skinned nature of many people today who are easy to outrage and I find humorous to bait."

He says this type of thing, after trashing one of the most respect member's company and good and honorable name? Most people would consider him a troll. :jerkit:

 

[rick43t3]

When you say this:It turned into this due to a couple of unstable individuals. Does that mean when someone disagrees with you that they are unstable? That is a very narrow minded thought process.

 

[Bastid]

How do they stay in business?

Its just that replies like "Hes been in business for 40 years" and "The service is top notch" (paraphrasing) doesnt address my question.

Keep digging Dave.

Your question was how do they stay in business.
40 Years of solid integrity, a solid reputation and giving back means something to many knife people. Not only that the fact that A.G. has been in business that long is quite pertinent to the thread you started and the words you chose to use.

That's how and the above is a solid answer to your obviously trolling question. (see first quote)

No one here handed you the shovel you are using.