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Originally posted by Red Devil
To: SilverFoxKnows
Care to eloborate on the MOD comment?? Something specific to Cali or something about the design/company????????????????????
RD, I believe he was referring to the name "masters of defense" in the sense that if someone were "caught" with that knife or they used it in a "tactical" situation, it would be difficult to convince the courts that it is not designed to be used as a weapon...of course, you and I know better...I have a CQD but I didn't get it because of the name or the fact that it has "Duane Dieter Close Quarters Combat Special Operations Trainer" written on the blade...I got it because I am a big guy (with big hands) so I find "chunky" knives to be more comfortable...
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God forbid I have to use one to save my life I don't want a knife that screams "weapon". And with regards to being left handed, some knives either don't have ambi thumb studs or have a right hand only clip that gets in the way of the lefty stud.
Frank
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I don't need to buy anymore knives. I own four penknives, eight folders, four fixed utility, two machetes and an axe. Trouble is I only use half of them regularly.
The total cost of the ones I use most: $1200. The cost of one good rifle and scope. Best quality does show through which does cost. Now that most of my user knives have worked for between five and fifteen years and still going strong shows that I've chosen well. However, there is a limit to how much I would spend. For example a CR fixed blade is not too much but is my upper limit of what I would spend even if I had an excessive amount of expendable income; which I don't. I have only recently aquired a small Sebenza and that was more to do with a situation than choise. It is a very nice folder and I'll use it; but its a bit ugly, and definately too much money in my book for a folder.
Most manufacturers produce one knife that realy rocks. The rest of the range often sucks. Personal taste, finances and what fits ensures that we need a whole lot of different styles and makes. The problem is that there are too many knives that are very average, often quite expensive for what you are getting.
I wouldn't spend more than:
$50 on a pen knife.
$250 on a folder.
$300 on a fixed.
$200 on a machetee. ($50 Martindale will do).
And then there is no garantee that the knife just might be a dud.
It would be easy enough to get away with paying a lot less, however you would need to search hard, really know your stuff and then be realistic enough to know you might need to upgrade sometime in the future.
I don't buy any more linerlocks or folding knives that are priced at $80-$140 mark which rules out most main manufacturers. I'd prefer to buy a SAK or Opinel to tie me over until I can get my hands on one of my better knives. There are good five inch fixed fixed blades at this price though especially plane jane customs.
I can't think of a good reason to own more than one Spyderco, one Benchmade, one Cold Steel, Shrade, Gerber, United Cutlery etc, as one example will expose you to how good or bad the rest of the range is. THEN YOU WILL KNOW FOR YOURSELF.
The total cost of the ones I use most: $1200. The cost of one good rifle and scope. Best quality does show through which does cost. Now that most of my user knives have worked for between five and fifteen years and still going strong shows that I've chosen well. However, there is a limit to how much I would spend. For example a CR fixed blade is not too much but is my upper limit of what I would spend even if I had an excessive amount of expendable income; which I don't. I have only recently aquired a small Sebenza and that was more to do with a situation than choise. It is a very nice folder and I'll use it; but its a bit ugly, and definately too much money in my book for a folder.
Most manufacturers produce one knife that realy rocks. The rest of the range often sucks. Personal taste, finances and what fits ensures that we need a whole lot of different styles and makes. The problem is that there are too many knives that are very average, often quite expensive for what you are getting.
I wouldn't spend more than:
$50 on a pen knife.
$250 on a folder.
$300 on a fixed.
$200 on a machetee. ($50 Martindale will do).
And then there is no garantee that the knife just might be a dud.
It would be easy enough to get away with paying a lot less, however you would need to search hard, really know your stuff and then be realistic enough to know you might need to upgrade sometime in the future.
I don't buy any more linerlocks or folding knives that are priced at $80-$140 mark which rules out most main manufacturers. I'd prefer to buy a SAK or Opinel to tie me over until I can get my hands on one of my better knives. There are good five inch fixed fixed blades at this price though especially plane jane customs.
I can't think of a good reason to own more than one Spyderco, one Benchmade, one Cold Steel, Shrade, Gerber, United Cutlery etc, as one example will expose you to how good or bad the rest of the range is. THEN YOU WILL KNOW FOR YOURSELF.
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I will not buy anything from pretty much any foreign country. Their knife designs seem pretty bizarre, and they frequently use inferior materials. That being said, exceptions to that would be Germany, Sweden, Finland and a few select others.
Also, although there are some outstanding knives produced presently in the USA, I have bought very few pieces dating after 1990. Instead, I focus on pre-1980 american makers.
For instance, I have never owned a Schrade made before 1975 that I would consider crappy. Also, older Camillus, Colonial, and real older Imperials were solid performers in their day.
I like tacticals, but would rarely carry one. How could you not like the smoothness and fit of a 3-blade medium stockman in your pocket?(I'm sure someone will respond to that in the negative)
I just like the fact that these older knives were not always made with mass production in mind, have good heft and weight to them, feel solid and perform well, and were probably assembled by an actual human who cared about the product he was making.
Zytel and polycarbonates may outperform Delrin and jigged bone, but to me they feel light and cold.
(Allright, me getting off my soapbox)
Also, although there are some outstanding knives produced presently in the USA, I have bought very few pieces dating after 1990. Instead, I focus on pre-1980 american makers.
For instance, I have never owned a Schrade made before 1975 that I would consider crappy. Also, older Camillus, Colonial, and real older Imperials were solid performers in their day.
I like tacticals, but would rarely carry one. How could you not like the smoothness and fit of a 3-blade medium stockman in your pocket?(I'm sure someone will respond to that in the negative)
I just like the fact that these older knives were not always made with mass production in mind, have good heft and weight to them, feel solid and perform well, and were probably assembled by an actual human who cared about the product he was making.
Zytel and polycarbonates may outperform Delrin and jigged bone, but to me they feel light and cold.
(Allright, me getting off my soapbox)
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Anything made by CHICOMs, like in the form of Jaguar, Master & anything the "Last bastion of Communism" will attempt to "rip off"
from the civilized world's knifemakers. I think MacArthur was right to suggest using the A-bomb on their @$$es ( sadly,this NEVER happened
) Simply because they really don't take much of an edge & break down under heavy use.( too bad this WASN'T the case with the CHICOM
Ak-47) History marches on...
AET
from the civilized world's knifemakers. I think MacArthur was right to suggest using the A-bomb on their @$$es ( sadly,this NEVER happened
) Simply because they really don't take much of an edge & break down under heavy use.( too bad this WASN'T the case with the CHICOMAk-47
) History marches on...AET
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CRKT & Cold Steel folders, though I like their fixed blades.
For you lefties out there, you should try the inertia opening. I can draw and open just about any knife I have in about a second. Hole disk or stud becomes a nonissue.
I can understand the M.O.D. issue as well. I have a Tempest that I just adore, however, I carry my Benchmade griptilian modified sheepsfoot because I feel it would be alot easier to justify in court if I ever had to use it. I think the M.O.D. logo and knives w/ similar markings are just bad juju for EDC. Though we all know better, I think some fool DA would probably love to nail ya on it.
Oh yea, I won't ever consider any folder that is oriented for tip down carry, just doesn't work for me.
What is the opinion on TOPS knives out there?
Jeff
For you lefties out there, you should try the inertia opening. I can draw and open just about any knife I have in about a second. Hole disk or stud becomes a nonissue.
I can understand the M.O.D. issue as well. I have a Tempest that I just adore, however, I carry my Benchmade griptilian modified sheepsfoot because I feel it would be alot easier to justify in court if I ever had to use it. I think the M.O.D. logo and knives w/ similar markings are just bad juju for EDC. Though we all know better, I think some fool DA would probably love to nail ya on it.
Oh yea, I won't ever consider any folder that is oriented for tip down carry, just doesn't work for me.
What is the opinion on TOPS knives out there?
Jeff