What knife would you like to see next from CPK?

Unlikely and unnecessary but as an avid fisherman I'd like to see Nathan's take on a fillet knife.

ExtraBaconPlease said:
The upcoming Survival Knife?
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Lol exactly! I can't wait for it and there's really nothing else I'd want in a fixed blade besides the ones I have plus the LC and SK. I'd ditch the choil but that's just personal preference as I have no use for them.
 
JustinFournier said:
Fixed it!!!
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I honestly don't know why people WOULDN'T want the option to have it as a usable asset. Is there a negative to a 90 degree spine? Have you tried the hacksaw blade with thick gloves on? It blows. I do a lot of winter camping and stuff gets lost. I certainly would lose that little piece of hacksaw blade long before my $300 knife. It's also good for more than just a firesteel. I'm not scraping tinder with a 3" piece of hacksaw blade either. It makes for a more usable tool, which is what these things are, no?


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ManOfSteel89 said:
I honestly don't know why people WOULDN'T want the option to have it as a usable asset. Is there a negative to a 90 degree spine? Have you tried the hacksaw blade with thick gloves on? It blows. I do a lot of winter camping and stuff gets lost. I certainly would lose that little piece of hacksaw blade long before my $300 knife. It's also good for more than just a firesteel. I'm not scraping tinder with a 3" piece of hacksaw blade either. It makes for a more usable tool, which is what these things are, no?


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Here is from the other thread, I will paste and edit it to save retyping it.

Best training session I ever had was in 1'+ deep snow in a heavy wind and blowing drift. Gloves off. You take off layers till basically you need to run to stay above freezing to death. Hands are shaking, loss of fine motor control and not much feeling in your fingers or toes. What comes through is mostly pain.

First thing I did after that class with regards to my fire kit was buy a thick rod, with a hacksaw blade attached by a lanyard cause your damn near guaranteed to drop it. I also put bic lighters in everything. A zippo in my main bag as well, with a small capsule style of tin of fuel for it. This is because I could light a zippo much easier on my leg then a bic with my thumb with numb hands.

I don't know anything compared to some hardcore bushcrafter guys. What I know better is what I can't do. And when the situation is bad, (as I found out) it's a whole lot. I bet I couldn't put the FK back in a sheath first try. Last thing I need is a super sharp edge near my hand I am trying to move against aggressively and push hard with my other hand. 0 interest.

So in short, I don't like having the sharp edge facing up when my capacity is reduced, I don't like the back edge is sharp for general handling and sheathing, I don't like it for batoning as it damages the baton, like the pry on the FK. Also, pushing down on the spine while doing various things becomes much more of a risk of cutting one self, and in a real survival situation I want to limit risk as much as possible.

On your questions, no I have never done it with gloves on as I took my gloves off in the snow to try. Generally I take my gloves off when doing tasks that require fine motor control. I agree on having things that can serve as many functions as possible. I use the hacksaw for additional things for example as a replacement for a tongue depressor in my FAK in my bag.

I'm up in Canada, so climate might have something to do with preferences as well. The SK, to me at least will be in my bag at all times, stored there for use in any emergency situation, at this point where I live it is mostly likely to be an Earthquake.
 
To each his own. I've never cut my fingers off using the spine of a knife for scraping and never hurt my hands pushing down on a 90 degree spine. I could care less about damaging a baton as there are plenty of good pieces of wood in the woods. I understand having plenty of lighters (I do the same thing), but if it's gonna be called a SURVIVAL knife you gotta think worst case scenario. This isn't gonna be made for dudes to stare at in mom's basement. It's gonna be a usable tool and I'm just of the opinion that it's a feature any survival knife should have, because God forbid all else fails you'd be wishing you had it. Also, maybe it's just me but I keep my ferro rod on my sheath and I'm not gonna have a hacksaw blade dangling from my sheath at all times. If I don't vote, I can't bitch.


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ManOfSteel89 said:
To each his own. I've never cut my fingers off using the spine of a knife for scraping and never hurt my hands pushing down on a 90 degree spine. I could care less about damaging a baton as there are plenty of good pieces of wood in the woods. I understand having plenty of lighters (I do the same thing), but if it's gonna be called a SURVIVAL knife you gotta think worst case scenario. This isn't gonna be made for dudes to stare at in mom's basement. It's gonna be a usable tool and I'm just of the opinion that it's a feature any survival knife should have, because God forbid all else fails you'd be wishing you had it. Also, maybe it's just me but I keep my ferro rod on my sheath and I'm not gonna have a hacksaw blade dangling from my sheath at all times. If I don't vote, I can't bitch.


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I have tried the ferro rod on the sheath thing but found it makes the whole assembly thing heavier than it needs to be, and I have never found I start fires enough to need it to be readily accessible at all times. Normally when I want to start a fire, I have multiple steps involved, I take my pack off, set up the area to make the fire, pull out my fire kit etc. So I prefer the rod be kept in the kit rather than on my hip.

I suppose this comes down to different methodology. I've gone to a much more minimal sheath setup lately, and in general trying to reduce weight and items whenever possible. My older sheaths all have firesteel loops, none of my newer ones do.

I say we both have reasons for our preference, and those suit us best. At the end of the day, I guess it will come down to Nathan and Lorien.
 
JustinFournier said:
I have tried the ferro rod on the sheath thing but found it makes the whole assembly thing heavier than it needs to be, and I have never found I start fires enough to need it to be readily accessible at all times. Normally when I want to start a fire, I have multiple steps involved, I take my pack off, set up the area to make the fire, pull out my fire kit etc. So I prefer the rod be kept in the kit rather than on my hip.

I suppose this comes down to different methodology. I've gone to a much more minimal sheath setup lately, and in general trying to reduce weight and items whenever possible. My older sheaths all have firesteel loops, none of my newer ones do.

I say we both have reasons for our preference, and those suit us best. At the end of the day, I guess it will come down to Nathan and Lorien.
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I agree with you 100% on that. Different strokes and all that.

Anyway.. on to the CPK PFK. Every fisherman needs a Performance Fillet Knife haha


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I can see a good fillet knife being handy. Nathan does enjoy salmon, no reason to use a modified veggie knife forever!

I had a wild sockeye tonight as a matter of fact. I didn't fillet it though. My grandpa was a commercial gill net fisherman. I have cleaned so many salmon I would probably be just fine if I never see another whole salmon again.
 
JustinFournier said:
I can see a good fillet knife being handy. Nathan does enjoy salmon, no reason to use a modified veggie knife forever!

I had a wild sockeye tonight as a matter of fact. I didn't fillet it though. My grandpa was a commercial gill net fisherman. I have cleaned so many salmon I would probably be just fine if I never see another whole salmon again.
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I'm jealous. We went for Kings last weekend and were too early in the season as it was too warm so no run yet.

6-8" S35VN with G10 scales?


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JustinFournier said:
IMO handle looks massively inferior to the LC handle, which in my opinion is at least half the magic of the LC. Also, RLC > LC for me. Axe for heavier work IMO. Just want to state my bias. Handle is a major concern for me in a HC. Hot spots ruin a knife for me.
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What's an RLC?


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coiledwire said:
Racing Light Chopper. It's ground thinner. Easier to damage than the regular LC, but cut like a laser.
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Gotcha, thanks. So more of a pure 'competition chopper' sort of thing with toughness as a secondary consideration?


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I mentioned this previously (elsewhere?) but i would really like to see a CPK Kukri.

Preferably with no choil/notches and a 12+ blade!
 
JustinFournier said:
Here is from the other thread, I will paste and edit it to save retyping it.

Best training session I ever had was in 1'+ deep snow in a heavy wind and blowing drift. Gloves off. You take off layers till basically you need to run to stay above freezing to death. Hands are shaking, loss of fine motor control and not much feeling in your fingers or toes. What comes through is mostly pain.

First thing I did after that class with regards to my fire kit was buy a thick rod, with a hacksaw blade attached by a lanyard cause your damn near guaranteed to drop it. I also put bic lighters in everything. A zippo in my main bag as well, with a small capsule style of tin of fuel for it. This is because I could light a zippo much easier on my leg then a bic with my thumb with numb hands.

I don't know anything compared to some hardcore bushcrafter guys. What I know better is what I can't do. And when the situation is bad, (as I found out) it's a whole lot. I bet I couldn't put the FK back in a sheath first try. Last thing I need is a super sharp edge near my hand I am trying to move against aggressively and push hard with my other hand. 0 interest.

So in short, I don't like having the sharp edge facing up when my capacity is reduced, I don't like the back edge is sharp for general handling and sheathing, I don't like it for batoning as it damages the baton, like the pry on the FK. Also, pushing down on the spine while doing various things becomes much more of a risk of cutting one self, and in a real survival situation I want to limit risk as much as possible.

On your questions, no I have never done it with gloves on as I took my gloves off in the snow to try. Generally I take my gloves off when doing tasks that require fine motor control. I agree on having things that can serve as many functions as possible. I use the hacksaw for additional things for example as a replacement for a tongue depressor in my FAK in my bag.

I'm up in Canada, so climate might have something to do with preferences as well. The SK, to me at least will be in my bag at all times, stored there for use in any emergency situation, at this point where I live it is mostly likely to be an Earthquake.
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No offense but people who cut their fingers on the 90o spine of their knives have girly fingers
LT wright and many others have put sharp spines on their knives and they work very well for anything from collecting tinder from trees scraping fatwood using a firesteel etc...
 
Revolverrodger said:
No offense but people who cut their fingers on the 90o spine of their knives have girly fingers
LT wright and many others have put sharp spines on their knives and they work very well for anything from collecting tinder from trees scraping fatwood using a firesteel etc...
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Pretty much what I was trying to say haha. I work with my hands therefor I don't worry about hot spots or sharp spines for the most part.
 
I'm not gonna lie. My wife bought me hand repair cream that was like $20 for a small bottle for my hands because I operate machinery and she thinks they are too rough for her and the baby so I am always trying to get them softer.

Happy wife happy life.

Regardless I have cut myself on paper, and I will never agree that in a real emergency, in the dark or cold or possibly injured or any situation for that matter that a knife held edge up is a good idea. You don't need a 90 degree spine for making tinder. The edge works just fine and is safer.

I don't even like leaving a knife in the wicked edge while I'm not working on it and am super careful when I am.

I had a 1" cut on the back of my thumb that was crudely stitched up in austere conditions, no freezing and irrigated it under pressure myself. I never want to have to do that again so I always side with risk reduction. So for these purposes a 90 is not worth it.

Again not necessary the 90 itself, but having the edge facing up.
 
There's always that. Not trying to argue any further and don't want Justin mad at me for pushing the issue lol. The only thing I wanna clarify is that when I used a knife's spine for a firesteel or tinder shavings it's never ever edge facing up. It's more like a 45* angle to the rod, which is generally at a 45 or more to the ground so the knife ends up being parallel to the ground, edge facing the tinder bundle.
 
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