What Makes a Good, Traditional Barlow?

The Rosewood is even better than I had hoped.
I like the grey streaks on the Blackwood; a little more character than pure Black Gabon, which I also like BTW!
The yellow speaks for itself; practically un-losable!
Hope they finish a Sawcut Bone soon. It looks a little more Brown than the earlier Red-brown.
I hope they post a full-on pic of the two-fer closed soon!
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I want to see how it looks "at rest".

I don't need another Barlow..... But man do I want one of these! That yellow just speaks to me. I guess I like smooth bone.
 
I'm afraid of what she might do with said Spey blade if I were to gift her one.:eek:

Hahaha...too funny!

For this very reason, I refuse to let my wife know which one is the spey blade; she's strong willed though, she'd use a butter knife if it got to that.
 
Now not owning a Charlow, what is the difference from a Boys Knife besides the bolster? Thought about new threading this one but figured I could sneak it into this one. Own a sheepsfoot boy's knife so I'm really just looking at the Charlow side of things.
 
Now not owning a Charlow, what is the difference from a Boys Knife besides the bolster?

The bolster IS the difference. The Barlow bolsters weigh almost as much as the weight of 2 nickels added to a Boys knife. The heavier bolster feels really solid in hand. The Boys knife by comparison feels "lighter", sort of the way an Opinel feel light in the handle, if that means anything to you. Other differences are blade options, and handle options.

Here are some collected photos to add to your visualization. In my opinion, the Black Poisonwood Freedom Charlow is the pick of this litter's handle materials, as it is only offered on one blade, the single clip.

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some info on weights
Barehead Ebony Boys Knife single Spear, 49 grams
Gabon Ebony Charlow single Spear, 57 grams
African Blackwood Charlow with Pen and Sheepfoot, 72 grams

and a couple of the posts that those photos come from, including other photos worth seeing

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...od-Traditional-Barlow?p=12625021#post12625021

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...oys-Knife-Suggestions?p=12706437#post12706437

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...an-Blackwood-vs-Ebony?p=12822676#post12822676
 
Was there ever a Charlow with the yellow bone and a single spear blade? That'd be cool.

Maybe one day there will be one. That's up to Charlie and GEC.

I love this latest run of Che Chen Rosewood and yellow bone Clip point Charlows. I'm not really a fan of the spey and sheepsfoot main blade Charlows, and while I am fond of clip point blades, my number one choice in blade shape for pocket knives is the spearpoint. I'm really tempted by the Che Chen Rosewood clip point Charlow, but I'm trying to hold out for another run of spearpoints.

If there is going to be another single spearpoint run, I'm crossing my fingers for African Blackwood, and Smooth Blue Bone. :thumbup:
 
Maybe one day there will be one. That's up to Charlie and GEC.

I love this latest run of Che Chen Rosewood and yellow bone Clip point Charlows. I'm not really a fan of the spey and sheepsfoot main blade Charlows, and while I am fond of clip point blades, my number one choice in blade shape for pocket knives is the spearpoint. I'm really tempted by the Che Chen Rosewood clip point Charlow, but I'm trying to hold out for another run of spearpoints.

If there is going to be another single spearpoint run, I'm crossing my fingers for African Blackwood, and Smooth Blue Bone. :thumbup:

The Smooth Blue Bone would be so gorgeous! Pertinux would probably buy all of them though then post pictures every other day and tease us with them! ;)
 
Showed my girlfriend the new pics... "How is that any different than this one?!"(pulls out my ebony eo boy's knife with sheepsfoot blade) I kinda understand where she's coming from but she is totally unwilling to see my/our side of it. I doubt anyone else on this forum has to have those conversations..........;)

She's a girl, no way she's going to grasp this, lol
 
Maybe one day there will be one. That's up to Charlie and GEC.

I love this latest run of Che Chen Rosewood and yellow bone Clip point Charlows. I'm not really a fan of the spey and sheepsfoot main blade Charlows, and while I am fond of clip point blades, my number one choice in blade shape for pocket knives is the spearpoint. I'm really tempted by the Che Chen Rosewood clip point Charlow, but I'm trying to hold out for another run of spearpoints.

If there is going to be another single spearpoint run, I'm crossing my fingers for African Blackwood, and Smooth Blue Bone. :thumbup:

Oooh, judging by this yellow bone, smooth blue bone would be awesome. As long as its not too light or dark!
 
Question on the yellow bone: do the scales stain with time? I'm wondering if these stay bright yellow or if they earn darker hues with use.
 
Question on the yellow bone: do the scales stain with time? I'm wondering if these stay bright yellow or if they earn darker hues with use.

Armando, I can't say for certain, but I had a smooth bone Moore Maker Trapper and they went from a bright yellow to a very nice mellow yellow over time. Not sure of the different dying process used if any from GEC though?

Paul
 
The yellow mellows like bone or ivory, IMO. They will darken slightly, and become slightly more translucent, if you oil them. Oil the blades a lot, but the handles not often - once or twice a year. If you handle it a lot, oil the bone less, as your hands will give it some.

Just dashed off the Back Label and GEC embellished it.
I hope you will forgive my amatuerish rantings - it's the place where I actually get to be hands on besides (he groans) wrapping packages!
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This batch of Saddle Brown Sawcut, appears to be less red than the last one.
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> The yellow mellows like bone or ivory, IMO.

The bone is stabilized, and according to my armchair reading, stabilization also stabilizes color. I defer to experience others may have had with GEC Yellow bone. Did it change over time?

> They will darken slightly, and become slightly more translucent, if you oil them.

Stabilized Bone does not accept oil, with the exemption of any part of the bone with pores large enough not to be filled by the Acrylic. But neither water nor Oil will penetrate acrylic.

> Oil the blades a lot, but the handles not often - once or twice a year. If you handle it a lot, oil the bone less, as your hands will give it some.

Spoken by a man who owns many many beautiful unstabilized bone handled knives.

Im not sure the rules that apply to unstabilized bone, apply to stabilized.

otoh, Kamagong and others have demonstrated that Acrylic can be dyed, by tea, or Rit or other means.

I invite others to educate me with photos of before and after changes on your stabilized covers.

here are 3 knives that I have oiled very very heavily with mineral oil. AFAIK only the Charlow is Stabilized.

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the stabilized bone Charlow on the left shows color variations that were there from the beginning, before oiling, the darker mottled parts.

The Russell shows the type of wet spreading stain from the oil soaking in, including transporting rust from the pins. This bone is the softest of the 3 samples, and is the most damaged by excess oiling.

The Remington bone shows an oil stain from the bolster towards the middle pin. This bone seems denser and harder than the bone on the Russell. The Remington did not change color anywhere near what the Russell did.

fwiw, Bernard Levine also warns against oiling bone, claims it can be harmful. Im pretty sure his comment is based on his experience with unstabilized bone.

But I may also be taking his comment out of context, as he may mean not to oil a collectible, you decide, read it for yourself:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...al-end-stockman-with-jigged-bone-scales/page2

"DO NOT SOAK bone or other organics in oil"


this is the earliest photo I have of the Charlow, not sure if I had oiled it yet or not, nor is it in the same lighting as the current photo above. You can see all the character mottling, that I believe was there from the beginning. imo, Acrylic does to bone, what oil does, it darkens some areas and not others, due to variations in density.

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here is the Charlow after wrapping in vinegar soaked paper towel. I would propose that any darkening is due to color from the metal dissolved into the vinegar, akin to ebonizing. I later polished off all the forced patina, as seen in the first photo above, taken today.

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Here is the earliest photo I have of the Russell. I believe I had already oiled it, but I also believe I later oiled it even more. You may be able to tell the oil staining around the pins is less developed. I believe at this stage I had only wiped oil onto the scales. Later I actually submerged the whole knife in an oil bath, leading to major increases in oil staining as shown in the first photo above.

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This is the earliest photo of the Remington I have. Im pretty sure I had already oiled it at least once. I later oiled it more, as you may or may not be able to tell in the first photo above.

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I recently sought confirmation from GEC regarding their use of stabilized materials. Apparently I had misunderstood an earlier conversation. GEC informs me that:
"The only thing we use that is stabilized is Primitive Bone. All the rest of our bone is not stabilized nor are most of the woods"

I will be preparing several delicious servings of figurative Crow, no birds will be harmed during my re-education. I apologize if anyone was misled by my earlier posts that claimed all GEC bone is stabilized. At this point I dont even know if the CheChen is stabilized or not. Feel free to just ignore anything I say until I graduate from knife materials 101, sometime next year maybe.
 
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The bolster IS the difference.

Perfect answer, just the kind of info and pics I was hoping to get! I was considering picking up a two blade just to get an extra bit of heft as the Boys Knife feels a little light to me.

Really appreciate what ya put into helping me out Jon,
Nick
 
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