What Makes a Good, Traditional Barlow?

because you waxed the blade?

Correct! Sunshine cloth contains not only aluminum oxide, it also contains wax. So a blade with zero patina is more protected, if oiled or treated with wax, than a blade with unoiled patina. The exercise is about debunking the myth that patina protects, when in fact it is oil, or wax, that protects. More info on the importance of oil for blade protection in this thread http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1148885-Patina-it-s-not-just-for-looks/page2 pay particular attention to Codger_64 comments on that page.

here is another photo of the Sunshine blade, better lighting as far as showing the lack of patina. I often remove all patina from my carry Charlow. It is very easy to build it back up, since I use it for food. The Sunshine cloth also works wonders on the handle covers. I learned about Sunshine thanks to Stich2442

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I think I'll look into the Sunshine cloth. Does it have some fine abrasives in it also? Or just a chemical method of cleaning the blade?

Your ebony spear Charlow is the most beautiful I've seen - always looks great!
 
I think I'll look into the Sunshine cloth. Does it have some fine abrasives in it also? Or just a chemical method of cleaning the blade?

Your ebony spear Charlow is the most beautiful I've seen - always looks great!

He stated aluminum oxide. It's corundum (sapphire and rubies are gem quality corundum) so very hard and very abrasive. Used for blasting and grinding. Be careful with it.

If you're after a wax, look into Renaissance Wax. It's what the British Museum uses. You can usually find it at wood crafter stores. A 200ml can will last you years. After 8 years, my can is still 2/3 full and I use it for several things.
 
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Good facts Todd, also be careful when using Aluminium oxide on a food knife-nasty stuff guys/gals.
I use Mineral oil on most, but turning to Renaissance Wax as when storing my knives, they still Carbon spot -even with Mineral oil liberally applied!
 
From my limited experience with Sunshine cloth, it has an extremely fine abrasive, finer than the 1500 emery paper I also use. I share the concern over eating Aluminum Oxide, but the Sunshine product was recommended to me by a Chef, so I dont suppose much of it stays on the blade. Sunshine cloth does indeed remove patina very quickly, but leaves no scratches, which 1500 emery does. I also use Mineral Oil from time to time, and consider it an excellent inorganic, non digestible, petroleum based water repellent. I also agree Renaissance Wax is a fantastic product. All tools in an arsenal, to be used as your preference dictates..

a quick google of Renaissance Wax finds the following wikipedia info:
"Renaissance Wax is a brand of microcrystalline wax polish that is widely encountered in antique restoration and museum curation. Although not appropriate for all materials, it is known to and used by almost every collection. It is also used as a primary finish for cabinetry and furniture. Renaissance wax is also used by reenactors of historic swordsmanship to protect armour and weapons. It is widely recognised that this substance is more protective and longer lasting than oil, especially for swords and helmets that are frequently touched by human hands.[1]

To quote a typical commercial supplier of conservation materials, it is used, to revive and protect valuable furniture, leather, paintings, metals, marble, onyx, ivory etc. Freshens colours and imparts a soft sheen.[2]

Wax coatings for conservation are most widely, and least controversially, applied to metals. This has several objectives: to produce a barrier that excludes moisture and oxygen from the metal surface, to ensure against further introduction of contaminating elements by handling, and to provide a protective layer over anti-corrosion undercoatings.
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Earlier wax polishes based on beeswax and carnauba wax either contained acids or became acidic over time. Renaissance Wax was based on more stable microcrystalline waxes refined from crude oil.[4]
Renaissance Wax also contains polyethylene waxes."

I do not recommend eating furniture, rubies, emery paper, aluminum oxide, microcrystalline waxes, nor polyethylene either :-). I imagine a wipe with soapy and or plain water, or alcohol, before use on food may be a prudent and practical option.

otoh, if anyone has information that the use of Sunshine cloth poses a health danger when used on a food knife, I definitely would like to review a reference link. Im new at all this, and do not want to do, or recommend anything that poses a danger to self or others.

ps, here is the MSDS for Sunshine Cloth (no hazardous chemicals listed)
http://www.sunshinepolishingcloth.com/Material Safety Data Sheet SPC.pdf

and for Renaissance Wax (Hazardous component White spirit)
http://www.productosdeconservacion.com/pdf/cera_Renaissance.pdf
 
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Good stuff Jon - interesting, I got a great informative pamphlet with my tin of Renaissance Wax, and hey-like you say a bit of a wipe with a rag ( or as a lot of us do - the inside of the t/shirt - the blades as good as really.
I just don't use it on edc blades = hassle, best I use is Baby oil ( mineral oil ) and even though it is extremely refined it still derives from a petroleum product!
I find using the Renaissance Wax a nuisance on everyday knives - just the stored stuff - I find id you wipe it on - and then leave it - whoa...goodness help you trying to wipe it off - I wipe it on, and (almost ) wipe it off straight away - just let it start to "set".

I know exactly where you are coming from when talking about the different things we can get to use on knives.
 
I keep aluminum oxide away from everything I do not intend to remove material from --- sand or grind. Just too abrasive. Precisely why I'll never use aluminum rifle cleaning rods. When aluminum weathers and leaves that white powdered residue, it's aluminum oxide and that is very fine of an abrasive.
 
Great Barlow Gallery, Paul!
That NYK is the first I have seen with a clip blade! The two I have are both spears. You must have acquired that recently??
 
Wait a minute! I'm busy for a couple days and not on the Forum quite as much and what's this Radio Jack?? It must have slipped by me?? (off to the Search now to see!)

Nice Barlows you have Paul! Beautiful samples you have there!
 
Wait a minute! I'm busy for a couple days and not on the Forum quite as much and what's this Radio Jack?? It must have slipped by me?? (off to the Search now to see!)

Nice Barlows you have Paul! Beautiful samples you have there!

I'm pretty sure it's a boys knife with spear main and cap lifter / flat head. :)
 
I agree Sarah, its a wee beaut, Paul - I love your photography, I search my new property for great places to take photos of knives, as I am scared people are getting a bit sick & tired on my knives on wood, but somehow you can place a knife on a desk - and make a great photo from it - and Sarah - when are you going out on another hike - or even your classic inside looking out window shots?
Paul....that Schrade ,83 Barlow is a beauty - lovely Bolsters & Bone &....... , I bought a older one last night - hopefully it gets here nice and safe - instead of me Queening that one, she will be right into my edc lot!
 
Duncan,

I never tire of seeing your knife shots, and the driftwood is such a perfect background (neutral color with subtle and interesting texture, the ability to hold knives at various angles instead of just flat)....

Sarah - when are you going out on another hike - or even your classic inside looking out window shots?

Ach, I've been engaged in civilian affairs, and it's been so Cold, and the sun sets so early-- a scarcity of time in good lighting. I have played at developing an indoor setup for default picture-taking, but the results so far are much more sterile than I prefer (and also just plain not good, yet).

Bring on Spring. :)

~ P.
 
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