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What's a moose, dangit? (Or the (un)Official Forum "Why A Duck?" Thread)

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And Non-twobladestockmans (stockmen?). Which isn't it??;)
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I've never actually heard *anyone* ever refer to a knife as a bullhead pattern - *ever* - except for Levine or in reference to what Levine said. I think he's missed the point here about the moose pattern in general. The moose pattern has nothing to do with the handle pattern per se -- other than being an equal end pattern (more or less) -- it's all about having two large, roughly equal sized blades on opposite ends of the handle - which when both opened out rather remind one of a moose's antlers. Most of the time these blades will be different -- usually a clip or spear + a long spey -- and be on two springs with a liner separating them to allow maximum blade length (though I don't really consider this precise construction as defining a moose). Yes, I consider the old Remington Bullet equal end patterns as being moose patterns (there seems to be a tradition of calling them muskrats - however so far I cannot find an old Remington ad or catalog that actually calls them that).

-- Dwight
 
zerogee said:
I've never actually heard *anyone* ever refer to a knife as a bullhead pattern - *ever* - except for Levine or in reference to what Levine said. I think he's missed the point here about the moose pattern in general. The moose pattern has nothing to do with the handle pattern per se -- other than being an equal end pattern (more or less) -- it's all about having two large, roughly equal sized blades on opposite ends of the handle - which when both opened out rather remind one of a moose's antlers. Most of the time these blades will be different -- usually a clip or spear + a long spey -- and be on two springs with a liner separating them to allow maximum blade length (though I don't really consider this precise construction as defining a moose). Yes, I consider the old Remington Bullet equal end patterns as being moose patterns (there seems to be a tradition of calling them muskrats - however so far I cannot find an old Remington ad or catalog that actually calls them that).

-- Dwight
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Here's the test...if you can call the knife a Texas Jack, then you can call it a Moose. They are synonyMOOSE. :) BWAAAAHAAAAA:D
 
KnifeHead said:
Here's the test...if you can call the knife a Texas Jack, then you can call it a Moose. They are synonyMOOSE. :) BWAAAAHAAAAA:D
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Ha! Yeah, that works for me. I've always disliked the idea of calling any pattern with blades at both ends any sort of "Jack" -- it's always seemed especially boneheaded to me.
 
zerogee said:
I've never actually heard *anyone* ever refer to a knife as a bullhead pattern - *ever* - except for Levine or in reference to what Levine said... -- Dwight
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Well, if you go back and read knifeaholic's post you'll find this quote:

In older catalogs I have seen equal end knives like the posted Winchester referred to as a Bullhead.

Live and learn.
 
plg45 said:
I new it!!!!!! The "Old Dog" is really a closet metro sexual.
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Whaddaya mean "closet"? :p

(And with some of the fellas dreaming about him of late, I'm startin' to worry some...:eek::p;))
 
I love this thread. :thumbup: I've always wondered about the Moose/Muskrat thing but have never had the "antlers" to ask!


I new it!!!!!! The "Old Dog" is really a closet metro sexual.
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I've been to Wilfred IN. and because of its size; Tony would have to be referred to as a "Geo Metro Sexual"
 
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blades&grace said:
I love this thread. :thumbup: I've always wondered about the Moose/Muskrat thing but have never had the "antlers" to ask!




I've been to Wilfred IN. and because of its size; Tony would have to be referred to as a "Geo Metro Sexual"
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It's ALIVE...ALIVE!! My insidious plan to start a thread that would take on a life of it's own has come to fruition. Because the Wilfred Works shop is situated in a one-car garage, Brent's comparison of it to a very small domestic motor car is brilliant and has nothing to do with a moose. Ironic, wouldn't you say?

Which reminds me, I understand the growing moose population in Canada(mentioned earlier) is causing increased traffic problems AND THAT MAKES ME WONDER how many Geo Metros have hit them. I'm Googlin! :D
 
BINGO! http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-6813082.html

Northway near Lake George early Wednesday when a 625- pound female moose ran into the side of her Geo Metro. I just feel terrible...back. ...

I'm pretty sure somewhere along the line we are going to find out that Kevin Bacon comes into play :D
 
Blues said:
Well, if you go back and read knifeaholic's post you'll find this quote:

In older catalogs I have seen equal end knives like the posted Winchester referred to as a Bullhead.

Live and learn.
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But I've never heard of anyone actually *using* that term, even in print, in anything like modern times, except for Levine unearthing it and the various arguments that have come from that - it's a dead terminology as far as I've ever experienced.

If you look at old catalogs from the various companies you'll see many different names given to various patterns depending on the company. One company or the other using a name to give their advertising something to hang on hardly makes it a definitive historical name for that particular pattern. Remington had their own name for almost every one of their major patterns that they used for targeting their advertising to a niche market. All of which is a long winded way to say that Winchester was no more right or definitive than any other company in this pattern naming business.

There is also the fact that a number of pattern names have come about purely as a result of modern collectors needing/wanting terminology for a particular variation in style or construction -- in the old days there was often no single common name for many patterns (or there was only a generic term - like "three bladed knives" for what we now call whittlers). I'm not saying this is wrong - just that this is a part of the evolution of language - and sometimes what is "right" often has to boil down to something resembling common usage.
 
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