what's up with strider knives lately?

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Hey gents,

Strider does have a cult following- so does every other Manufacturer.

Strider has two cult like followings

1. Knife/ forum enthusiasts who spend big money on limited production type items. Same type of vibe as guys who have their preferred brand of watch, car, pens etc. We in the forums represent a very small number of knife users/ customers that have very specific tastes.

2. Military/ LE (warrior types)- In my experience mainly Marines and SOCOM and similar units made up of men in the NCO-SNCO range that are willing to spend money on the right gear. Strider also has a discount for Active Duty Military enlisted. Many of my LCPLs were given the "hook up" before they deployed and many other NCO's can say the same thing.

As far as innovative designs-

Their knives are constantly being improved and redesigned. The profile might not change in some models, but why change blade and handle geometry that already works very well? Why haven't we done much changes to the 110? Because it works and has sold incredibaly well since the early 60's.

Additionally

I have never heard Mick or Duane badmouth any respected knife maker and I know they are personal friends with many of the most well known. I do know that they hold honor and integrity in very high regard and take issues with makers that don't.

Everyone likes to pick on whoever is on top, thats just human nature.

Finally I'll end with a frequent quote from Mick

"Whats the best knife? The one in your hand"

Just my 2 cents

Josh
Buck Tactical Division
SGT USMC IRR
 
Mr Rummerfield, with all due respect, many of us have heard Mick badmouth a respected knifemaker. (read up about Darrel) BTW: any chance of a tacticalized Buck 110? (I'm thinking black chrome and dark micarta scales)
 
GarageBoy said:
Mr Rummerfield, with all due respect, many of us have heard Mick badmouth a respected knifemaker. (read up about Darrel)
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First of all I suggest people read the thread in question for themselves and come to their own conclusions about the behavior of the parties involved.

Second, both makers have said it is settled, lets move on. I think that is a good idea.
 
GarageBoy said:
Mr Rummerfield, with all due respect, many of us have heard Mick badmouth a respected knifemaker. (read up about Darrel) BTW: any chance of a tacticalized Buck 110? (I'm thinking black chrome and dark micarta scales)
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And many that read the whole thread saw that respected :rolleyes: maker discredit an extremly well respected maker who is no longer alive to point out his lies and that is what that was all about , so read the whole story and get the facts before jumping to conclusions.
 
Yes, unfortunately someone was pulled into the DR/Mick mess, but again, it's the way it was handled, and now lets drop the subject
 
MelancholyMutt said:
Alright 45 guy, you're bringing in the thread which everyone agreed not to talk about...
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ok sorry my bad , thought we were talking about what I quoted. But since ya'll want to bag on Mick without telling the whole truth , I will refrain from posting . And apparently most of you who say Strider has nothing new didnt see the really cool stuff in Vegas and as to the WP is made from scrap....

feast on this

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if that is scrap to you , then you got issues :D
 
Darn it!!!! My knife is made from scrap!!!!!! :rolleyes:

that sucks!!! :rolleyes: My knife is made from Mini-Gun Damascus!


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I have seen some of the custom knives that Mick has made and boy is he talented.

I have nothing but respect for the folks at Strider and feel that they deserve all the good fortune that comes to them. They have earned it in my opinion.
 
Just some thoughts.
When you talk about Ek knives, there are really 3 different classes of knife.
The original Ek knives, respected around the world.
Ek knives after Blackjack bought the name.
Ek knives of today made by Ken Warner.
I like the originals.

Dont blame Strider for how their customers act, they have no control over that.
As JRummerfield noted above, it's a little know fact that Strider knives are cheaper to active duty servicemen, in fact they have sent many for nothing into war zones.
The original idea with the SMF's was that civilian versions cost more to keep the military versions cheaper.

As for the argument between the two makers, maybe there was a history there and maybe one of the parties is having troubles with many other makers? Hmmm?
 
Hey lifter! Don't think Ken Warner brought the Ek name. (IIRC)
And I should have remembered your quote. "If your name is not Strider, Ralph or (Insert name here) you have no right to say"
 
Garage Boy, I think you're right, he bought the BlackJack name.

My quote that you mentioned was in reference to name calling that served no purpose.
Nothing pisses me off more than someone saying something about someone or calling them something that they wouldnt say face to face. You see it alot with the internet police.
 
doorkicker said:
but, i started to suspect something was a bit wrong when i heard of generation 6 being released of their SMF and SNG folders. i totally realize that designs are going to improve and the perfect model sought after isnt so unusual that a manufacturer might release a new improved version. BUT if something has to be modified six times, dont you think it may have been released a bit prematurely?
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Dude... it's just like car or a computer.... they are constantly improving and changing.

Strider Knives has always said they are always trying to make their knives better. Gen 2 SMFs (there is no Gen 6 SMF) and the Gen 6 SnGs were made mostly because they added the Hinderer aka Lock stabilizer.
 
I seems like giving any maker bad marks for improving the maker's product would only serve to discourage improvements.

If the improved version costs more, the consumer can decide if the increased price is worth paying to have the latest thing.

There will always be "latest" versions -- if not by one maker, than by others.

(I'm waiting for a knife with a mono-mollecular edge. :D )
 
sticknblade said:
EK knives can't be compared to Randalls either.

I don't need a history lesson, if I carry a blade it'll be a real knife.

Yeah, people can carry old antique knives if they want. It's 2005 I like to use what is the best Now.
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So if you could get a blade made by a master smith, say from Japan that is 400 years old, do you think a solid bar of ground steel with a paracord wrap would be superior?
 
Temper said:
So if you could get a blade made by a master smith, say from Japan that is 400 years old, do you think a solid bar of ground steel with a paracord wrap would be superior?
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Yes, I feel the the cord wrap knife would be superior, as well as more practical.
 
BH said:
Yes, I feel the the cord wrap knife would be superior, as well as more practical.
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Temper forgot to tell you that the bar of steel is 420J and is 1/2" thick. :D

(I think this is an example of what used to be called target fixation. ;) )
 
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