Whats with all this Chinese (or Taiwanese) crap?

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The OP could get US made Ti frame locks under $200 here on the exchange any day of the week. This post smacks of trolling. I snagged a near-perfect condition BM 760 LFTi for $125.
 
crom said:
The OP could get US made Ti frame locks under $200 here on the exchange any day of the week. This post smacks of trolling. I snagged a near-perfect condition BM 760 LFTi for $125.
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Not trolling, I just have multiple other Ti frame locks that are under 200 and its an addiction. I really don't like buying used also, I have had a few bad experiences and I just don't mess with it anymore.
 
baliflipper02 said:
Not trolling, I just have multiple other Ti frame locks that are under 200 and its an addiction. I really don't like buying used also, I have had a few bad experiences and I just don't mess with it anymore.
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Yeah I know how that goes. Some people would throw a zt through a toro chipper and post a picture of the remnants and say "LNIB". I don't play that game anymore.
 
baliflipper02 said:
Not trolling, I just have multiple other Ti frame locks that are under 200 and its an addiction. I really don't like buying used also, I have had a few bad experiences and I just don't mess with it anymore.
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Okay, but if you are looking for more options you could have gone about asking better. The title of this thread is the biggest problem most of us have because it simply isn't accurate in anyway whatsoever. There are crap knives made in lots of countries. There are great knives made in lots of countries including China. Spyderco makes their highest end knives in Taiwan. The new and upcoming Chinese Knife companies mentioned throughout this thread are producing some top line stuff. So the problem is we know there is great stuff coming from those areas. It is cool if you want to buy US but you can't tell us something that is factually not true. If you want some recommendations then ask. Don't just use a blanket statement to disparage entire parts of the world as "crap".

Another problem is there is no free lunch. Those cool designs you see made from 8cr and the like are budget knives. That is generally what you get at that price point. I completely understand the frustration of not being able to accept the materials in a knife design you really like. It sucks sometimes but it is what it is. CRKT is a great example. Low end materials. Fit/finish and QC issues. Over priced for what you get. Some great looking designs but I can't justify the value ratio. So I look elsewhere. I don't mind paying more and but getting more for my money. It is these sort of values that you will want to look for.

As for buying used here, it is almost exclusively how I purchase. So long as you are careful (use paypal goods and research the seller) there is almost no risk. I've gotten crazy deals that make owning higher end things much more affordable. Plus, if you get a gold membership you can try knives out to see if they will work for you. If they don't work you can sell them at very little loss and try something else. It is a great thing for a knife nut!
 
Very well said Cray!! Most of my blades come from the Exchange also.......I've been very happy with the members I've dealt with too!
Joe
 
thanks gotcha have you checked out real steel they have both some nice time frame locks under 200 and a few stainless steel frame locks that are well made with14c28n steel
 
evilgreg said:
I think I own knives from all the brands you listed but Carson and Flytanium, and I don't know that I'd bin Kizer as being the low-end of the group. Their knives vary in quality pretty significantly from their low end stuff to their nicer stuff, and their nicer stuff is really pretty great these days.
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Well thats just my opinion. I dont think any of the knives in that group are low end. I just think of all the legit chinese knife brands that kizer is at the bottom of the heap of what is good.
 
I agree and do not want kids making my knife for a bowl of rice, just to save a little. ZT has great options
 
extrastout said:
I agree and do not want kids making my knife for a bowl of rice, just to save a little. ZT has great options
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I often find this thought process odd. Because now without that knife being sold, that kid has no rice at all.
 
PURPLEDC said:
I often find this thought process odd. Because now without that knife being sold, that kid has no rice at all.
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^yep. agree.

wrong place to discuss but when factories that build iphones, umbrellas, knives and such with child labor are forced to stop.......the children end up in industries far worse than making iphones and such. horrible and sick sometimes the world we live in.

back on topic...plenty of choices of types of knives and countries made in nowadays. really nothing to complain about. first world problems.
 
jbmonkey said:
^yep. agree.

wrong place to discuss but when factories that build iphones, umbrellas, knives and such with child labor are forced to stop.......the children end up in industries far worse than making iphones and such. horrible and sick sometimes the world we live in.

back on topic...plenty of choices of types of knives and countries made in nowadays. really nothing to complain about. first world problems.
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Not to mention the assumption that if it's made in China, it must be made in a sweatshop.
 
China builds rockets, satellites, computers and made things 2000+ years ago that no-one had, so building a quality knife is no biggi.

Chinese mfg's will build anything someone pays them to build. It's just
that many companies want them to build cheap products that are
imported here so these companies here can make massive profits.

It will only last so long because Chinese standard of living is growing,
very fast it's middle class is a much larger population than the population
in the USA now.
 
It your money buy what you want and can afford. If you want made in the USA only you got to shop harder.
 
Ok...im a machinist and always bouncing around job to job. This is do to my employers outsourcing work to China. They really have no choice if they want to remain in buisness and be profitable. I would rather pay more for and support USA workers and ZT. So I don"t eventually have to work hundreds of miles away from my family to find work, for a bowl of rice and only see my family once a year in my own country. Chinese made knives are not crap in some cases, but every purchase represent another American manufacturing worker losing his job or getting closer to getting paid in rice IMHO.
 
extrastout said:
Ok...im a machinist and always bouncing around job to job. This is do to my employers outsourcing work to China. They really have no choice if they want to remain in buisness and be profitable. I would rather pay more for and support USA workers and ZT. So I don"t eventually have to work hundreds of miles away from my family to find work, for a bowl of rice and only see my family once a year in my own country. Chinese made knives are not crap in some cases, but every purchase represent another American manufacturing worker losing his job or getting closer to getting paid in rice IMHO.
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Excellent Statement! "Chinese made knives are not crap in some cases, but every purchase represent another American manufacturing worker losing his job or getting closer to getting paid in rice IMHO" and mine
 
But are you willing to hold that line across the board and pay 2 or 3 times as much for everything you use or wear? Just buying American knives isn't going to change anything in the long run. The American consumer wants cheap and imports give it to them.
 
extrastout said:
Ok...im a machinist and always bouncing around job to job. This is do to my employers outsourcing work to China. They really have no choice if they want to remain in buisness and be profitable. I would rather pay more for and support USA workers and ZT. So I don"t eventually have to work hundreds of miles away from my family to find work, for a bowl of rice and only see my family once a year in my own country. Chinese made knives are not crap in some cases, but every purchase represent another American manufacturing worker losing his job or getting closer to getting paid in rice IMHO.
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Well, I'm a single father living on a limited income. We all have problems. And mine is I refuse to keep paying top dollar for American knives and compromising on the designs I actually want simply because I cant afford American knives that actually produce the knives I want to buy. We are talking about a luxury item that accounts for a tiny fraction of my overall spending. Its the one area of my life (my hobbies) where I am doing it for me and me alone so I am going to be selfish and buy what I want from the people I can afford to buy it from. If buying a knife from china means my daughter gets better food, better clothes and a better education then I am going to choose that over worrying about how my miniscule knife hobby is going to effect non related manufacturing jobs in America.
 
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