What's your latest Schrade? END DATE 8/12

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Here's something a little off the beaten track; the original patent for the venerable 15OT by Henry Baer himself. Of notable interest is the fact that it was recorded at the patent office on Aug 7, 1964, and granted on Nov.9, 1965. I'd imagine that the time in between would be the period that was "patent pending", but I think 'ol Codger's gonna need to verify that;)

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Here's one of the "Patent Pending" models with period sheath:

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There were @5300 15OT made in 1964 and another 7300 in 65. Given that there were about 12,000 made during the pat pend period.
Thats a lot of pre advertising.. What would he have done it the pat was rejected. Thankfully it wasnt.
 
lrv said:
Thats a lot of pre advertising.. What would he have done it the pat was rejected. Thankfully it wasnt.
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Well, he could always have fallen back on his combination pocketknife/telephone dialer:eek:


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Eric
 
That one lets you dial a rotary telephone, right?

These patents seem to suggest that those who I have heard state that Henry Baer was a dolt... that he was an albatross carried for many years by his younger/smater brother were wrong, as I've continually contested. Henry wasn't as much of a driven businessman as his brother, but he did have a talent for creativity, marketing and working with people.

Michael

PS- Thanks for showing us these patents! Now... find us a design patent for the Sharp Finger! :)
 
Codger_64 said:
That one lets you dial a rotary telephone, right?

These patents seem to suggest that those who I have heard state that Henry Baer was a dolt... that he was an albatross carried for many years by his younger/smater brother were wrong, as I've continually contested. Henry wasn't as much of a driven businessman as his brother, but he did have a talent for creativity, marketing and working with people.

Michael

PS- Thanks for showing us these patents! Now... find us a design patent for the Sharp Finger! :)
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YES to the rotary phone dialer!!:thumbup:
They were usually on the end of a pen or mechanical pencil.


Now go find us one of the knife dialers:eek:


BTW I still have an old rotary phone!!! (and it will still works) although the portables are much nicer:p Kids think it is stone age:D
 
I broke my cherry and bought my first Schrade. 340T new in blue box with delrin handles. A humble start.
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coop1957 said:
I broke my cherry and bought my first Schrade. 340T new in blue box with delrin handles. A humble start.
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Yas! Another one hooked! Now, keep your eyes open for that 34OT in the other generations of packaging! And... then the "siblings" of the 34OT using the same frame with a different combination of blades. And... then the Special Factory Orders (Ducks Unlimited, Skoal, etc.) and commems like the 100th anniversary editions. There was more than one variety of them.

Michael

PS- Don't forget to pick out an EDC of the 34OT either. They are small, but very handy!
 
Codger_64 said:
Yas! Another one hooked! Now, keep your eyes open for that 34OT in the other generations of packaging! And... then the "siblings" of the 34OT using the same frame with a different combination of blades. And... then the Special Factory Orders (Ducks Unlimited, Skoal, etc.) and commems like the 100th anniversary editions. There was more than one variety of them.

Michael

PS- Don't forget to pick out an EDC of the 34OT either. They are small, but very handy!
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Yes, now I need to get another 340T that is not in mint condition so that I can edc it. I can tell that is going to be expensive.
 
Codger_64 said:
PS- Thanks for showing us these patents! Now... find us a design patent for the Sharp Finger! :)
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Michael, no luck on that one. Was there an actual design patent for that knife? Or were they able to use the 15OT patent since the 152 was basically just a small version (although not quite identical)?

I have seen the 156 being referred to as a copy of the "Fisher Boot Knife" in memos. Apparently Fisher made the knife for their use, but that's the only mention I've seen of that knife's roots. No patent here on that one either.

I do have Albert's patent on the Wonda Edge though.

Eric
 
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coop1957 said:
Yes, now I need to get another 340T that is not in mint condition so that I can edc it. I can tell that is going to be expensive.
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I don't know how you define expensive, but you should be able to find one around $20. Mind you, it won't be easy, but it can be done. Good luck!

Chuck
 
I have several of these knives but had never seen the hatchet no less the combo set. got it at an antique shop about an hour and a half west of me. the pics are horrible but I was in a hurry- Joel

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I love it!...I have the other Combos however have never even seen this one...and yes I have the various Imperial knives.....is it my imagination... or is the current tight situation for us all, starting to unearth some real gems?? Well done Joel. Hoo Roo
 
aggiebuilder2003 said:
I don't know how you define expensive, but you should be able to find one around $20. Mind you, it won't be easy, but it can be done. Good luck!
Chuck
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I didn't mean that another 340t would be expensive. I meant that this new direction in old Schrades is going to be expensive.
I have about 80 folders and about $40.00 in the bank.:D
 
Wow!
A phone dialer/knife combo!
What a useful tool in it's day!

Now some of our younger members won't remember the rotary phone, but I do.
The mere mention of the "Dial Telephone" causes my right index finger to hurt!
I think I can still see a groove worn into my index finger (just below the first knuckle), these 40 years later.

For those of you who have never used a dial telephone for any extended period of time this may require some explanation.
In 1969 I left the great state of Oregon and headed South to the state of Confusion, er, …I mean California.
I grew up in the mountains of Southern Oregon. About one year before, August 1968, we finally got electricity and a telephone in the old home place.
About August 1969, after graduating High School and before enlisting in the Marine Corps (February 1970), I went to California to seek a college education. I discovered many things:
1- Education costs money (not a problem I liked to work and make money, been doing it since I was 12 years old).
2- Girls- These lovely creatures cost both money & time.
3- I actually needed to study. Now this is where things got dicey. Study time cut into work time. Money was more important…………you can see where this is going. I worked three jobs and I could afford school and girls, (well at least girls).

Long story short, I ended up in the Marine Corps.
But one of the jobs I had in 1969 was working in a phone room. This involved cold calling potential customers from a list of phone numbers. To talk to the customer I first had to dial their number on the “WONDERFUL” (dripping with sarcasm) rotary telephone.
Now rotary telephones were these big heavy things that would stop a .357 round and were even rumored to be impenetrable to X-rays. They weighed 5 or 6 lbs. The spring on the dial was very strong. So strong in fact that when they wore out, they were recycled and used for overload springs on pickup trucks.
My job was to call 250 people per shift (minimum) and sell tickets to the annual charity Policemen’s Circus. Pay was by commission only; no sale, no paycheck. I was motivated to make LOTS of calls! The dial of the phone was easy to use for the first few calls, then your finger started to get sore. Some people switched to their middle finger, my middle finger was too big to go in the hole, and so my index finger was what I used.

Unless you have made 250 to 350 calls per day on a rotary phone, day after day, you cannot possible appreciate the brilliance and sheer genius of Henry Baer’s Phone Dialer Knife!

Please excuse me; I have to go soak my index finger in Epsom Salts. The memories are that painful.


Dale
 
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