What's your latest Schrade? END DATE 8/12

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ea42 said:
Hal,

I think the larger equal end is #7424SqMB, page 74 of Cat. E. If you don't have the catalog I can copy an image for you. It appears that your knife has flat bolsters, which would match up with that particular number.

Still working on the other, is it definitely 2 5/8"? I see a number at 2 1/2 and others at 2 7/8. None at 5/8 yet.

VERY nice knives!

Eric
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Thanks Eric, it is 2.5" minus the shackle. The #7424sqMB is it, and it is 3 1/8". Probably good I was not doing any carpentry work yesterday. I have those catalogs, but did not look in that particular supplement. Thanks.

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This is similar smaller pen (in MOP rather than MOTS), minus the shackle (mine does not have sunken joints), and with two pins instead of three. I also see it in the 1947 catalog, with a 7934M number (no shackle and two pins). The ones I've seen listed with a shackle have a manicure file, in place of the little tiny pen blade, and the nickel-silver tips. That little blade ia amazing, only 1 1/16" long, ground wafer thin, razor sharp and even has a swedge. Glad I was not in charge of assembling those little things.
 
Hedger, them's pretty big pics. smaller to fit monitor size would be easier.
do you have a question about it ?
the "B.C." was covered in a recent thread.
B.C. = British Columbia, a small secret manufacturing site in the Kootenay Mountains of S/E B.C.
roland
 
I've heard different things. I thought it might be an end of days put together with surplus parts. I also heard the B.C. might indicate Bear Claw but I found no such name. Perhaps it was a scrimshaw blade. I never thought it could be British Columbia. I would like to learn more about this facility. I live in Washington.
 
Hedger said:
I've heard different things. I thought it might be an end of days put together with surplus parts. I also heard the B.C. might indicate Bear Claw but I found no such name. Perhaps it was a scrimshaw blade. I never thought it could be British Columbia. I would like to learn more about this facility. I live in Washington.
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Hedger - I think you are on the right track. It is from this thread. BC = Bear Cult.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4685441&postcount=8

Here is the whole thread.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=480676&highlight=kachina

Roland - Behave yourself up there! :)
 
Here are three Schrades.

Below a 15OT which the brochure in the box calls a "Old Timer Hunter" and I've heard called the Deerslayer elsewhere. "Unbreakable Saw Cut Stagion" stocks of course.

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A 154OT, drop point hunter.

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And a 7OT I believe it's called a Cave Bear. Not an original case though.

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tipoc
 
Tipoc - Those are some nice ones. That 150T looks like it has a serial number on it. Proves an earlier comment of mine wrong regarding Uncle Henry being the only serialized patterns. Thanks for showing those.
 
That 15OT is an early one. if you search this forum there are some excellent posts by Codger about the more exact dating of the first 15OTs, using both knife and sheath for clues.
in 1964 the 15OT was introduced and i think it was the very first time that the "Old Timer" name was used for a Schrade knife, although it had been used earlier by Ulster. that's why the paper says "Old Timer Hunter".
"Deer Slayer" wasn't used until shortly after S-W became Schrade.
very nice 154OT. i've been trying to 'catch' one of those for a couple of years, but no luck yet.
if info above needs amending, please pass on that info.
roland
 
Kind of hard to follow up after looking at those pictures. I did however pick up an LB5,black Delrin handles, brass bolsters over the weekend.
 
rprocter said:
That 15OT is an early one. if you search this forum there are some excellent posts by Codger about the more exact dating of the first 15OTs, using both knife and sheath for clues.
in 1964 the 15OT was introduced and i think it was the very first time that the "Old Timer" name was used for a Schrade knife, although it had been used earlier by Ulster. that's why the paper says "Old Timer Hunter".
"Deer Slayer" wasn't used until shortly after S-W became Schrade.
very nice 154OT. i've been trying to 'catch' one of those for a couple of years, but no luck yet.
if info above needs amending, please pass on that info.
roland
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Roland, the first OT's were probably made in 1959 (re Codger). I have a 15OT with Pat.Pend. on it. The 165's had serial numbers for awhile, and, of course ALL the UH's. Michael has threads on all of these knives. Awesome knowledge from that guy. I have a 165 OT with a Shikari shield, serial #365. And a 171 UH, second type, serial #298. Cheerio.
 
Quote "Roland, the first OT's were probably made in 1959"
yes but were they Schrade-Walden knives ? Ulster used the "Old Timer" moniker first, i think.
wierd thing is, i thought i had all this down pat a couple of years ago, and now i'm not sure.
Clemente says that bit about 1964 15OT being first Schrade to be branded "Old Timer", but i agree, it's Codger who knows for sure.
Michael, where's your book ? i need it !!
roland
 
tipoc said:
Here are three Schrades.

Below a 15OT which the brochure in the box calls a "Old Timer Hunter" and I've heard called the Deerslayer elsewhere. "Unbreakable Saw Cut Stagion" stocks of course.

s150T2-1.jpg


s150T5-1.jpg


A 154OT, drop point hunter.

s1540T2-1.jpg


s1540T3-1.jpg


And a 7OT I believe it's called a Cave Bear. Not an original case though.

s70T1.jpg


schrades2.jpg



tipoc
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Those are really beautiful knives...great score!! :thumbup:
 
Roland, the first "Schrade" OT's were the 2OT and the 8OT, both out in the 1960-61 period ( I think the 2OT was the first). The Ulster 58OT may have preceeded them by a few months. The Ulster 114OT and 10OT were out in 1961 as well. The Schrade 108OT came out in 1962, followed by the 34OT, 25OT, and 15OT in 1964-65. I think the unique thing about the 15OT is that it was the first one that wasn't patterned after an older knife from the Schrdae or Ulster lineup, it was actually a "new' knife design. I do believe we need Codger to corroborate those dates though.

Eric
 
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Thank you Eric. it had been bothering me that i had gotten those dates somewhat wrong. Clemente's book is helpful as a quick reference for a few basics about each pattern, but some of his historical notes are no longer considered correct. since he compiled his info, more exact dating has come about, in part thanks to "M.L. Codger".
perhaps if i owned a minty 2OT it would help me remember "Old Timer start = 1960", or 1959, or '58, or, or, ??
so any spare 2OTs, please let me know !
roland
 
2OT was 1st available in 59, 8OT and 58OT in 60. 50OT in 61
The 58OT had a predessor in 1958 called the 58 E
Eric and I need to talk re the 114 ;)
TTYL
 
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