What's your latest Schrade? END DATE 8/12

[rprocter]

Here's one you don't see too often, and rarely with all the gear, and almost never for $36.

and here it is compared with the 'off shore' BT01 which i bought when they first showed up, for the price of $0.01 !

Schrade produced 3 different survival type knives and i'm not sure if the BT01 is a copy of the M-7S, or one of the other 2.
roland

 

[rprocter]

Here's another rare one: Schrade/U.S.A. 172S

the blade is similar to the 148 series from the 1960s. the 172UH was first produced '71-'73. where exactly the 172S came in i'm not sure, but the plastic handle is not Staglon. it's got a very "plastic" look to it (i.e. el cheapo) and it's light weight, adding a cheap feel. i think Schrade was trying out different plastics for a stag like look before settling on Delrin which became the material for both "Saw-Cut" and "Staglon".
it actually looks better in the pic than in person.

the above 'facts' may not be much more than my imagination as i cobbled this together from bits of old posts. but: Codger knows ! maybe he'll get some accuracy here.
roland

 

[thawk]

Nice knives Roland. Great nab on the M7-S

 

[Codger_64]

...the above 'facts' may not be much more than my imagination as i cobbled this together from bits of old posts. but: Codger knows ! maybe he'll get some accuracy here.
roland

I believe you pretty well covered what is known about the pattern at this time Roland.

1. The blade is similar to the 148 series from the 1960's
2. The 172UH was first produced '71-'73.
3. Where exactly the 172S came in we're not sure
4. The plastic handle is not Staglon.
5. It has a very "plastic" look to it (i.e. el cheapo) and it's light weight, adding a cheap feel.
6. We think Schrade was trying out different plastics for a stag like look before settling on Delrin which became the material for both "Saw-Cut" and "Staglon".
7. It looks better in the pic than in person.

Eric, Dale or someone else may hold a critical piece of the puzzle of this knife's history in the form of a record of production, a meeting note, a flyer or inter-office memo. But until something more definate surfaces, we can look more closely at what we know for a fact at this point. The construction closely relates to the Imperial Kit Carson. The tang says post-1973 which was after the '49er series made it's debut. Therefore, we know the handle material wasn't a predecessor to Staglon. Maybe it was a try at a cheaper styrene replacement?

 

[delmas2nd]

just got thise one and had to share. it is a brass handled one and is very clean and nice. any ideas on its heritage? It is a Schrade Walden knives, a 880 pattern.

 

[delmas2nd]

got this one in too about a week earlier. it is a schrade walden also. a 825 pattern.

 

[thawk]

just got thise one and had to share. it is a brass handled one and is very clean and nice. any ideas on its heritage? It is a Schrade Walden knives, a 880 pattern.

I've never seen that. Maybe a rehandle?

 

[ea42]

Eric, Dale or someone else may hold a critical piece of the puzzle of this knife's history in the form of a record of production, a meeting note, a flyer or inter-office memo. But until something more definate surfaces, we can look more closely at what we know for a fact at this point. The construction closely relates to the Imperial Kit Carson. The tang says post-1973 which was after the '49er series made it's debut. Therefore, we know the handle material wasn't a predecessor to Staglon. Maybe it was a try at a cheaper styrene replacement?

Michael and Roland, I'm working on it, so far I've found the info re. the initial offerings of the 172UH, but nothing yet on the "S". Interesting to note that the initial 172UH's used 165 boxes. It is the 148 blade, as was the Kit Carson blade. That "S" model might just remain a mystery (is it for sure an S, or is it a 5?).

Eric

 

[rprocter]

Re: 172S (yes, S, not 5)
Eric, there is a bit of info here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315670&highlight=172s
but it was a bit of a mystery then too.
and Michael, it seems you have one, or did have on Dec. 25 2004: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326494&highlight=172s
seems odd to me that this would have come out after the S-W 172UH of '71-'73, which was d/c after only 2 years, and after Staglon had already been chosen as a major handle material.
could this have been made at the Imperial, R.I. plant, pre 1971, and the "Walden" left off the stamping because it did not originate in Walden, N.Y. ?
roland

 

[17remfan]

Im new to the forum and just last night purchased a new Schrade. It will be on the way to me early next week.

The knife is a Schrade Old Timer 60T :USA made.I thought it was pretty nice to find one new in the box with a holster.

I will try to keep this one in very mint condition unlike some other knives ive torn up in the past.Keep the file away from me and ill be ok

Here is a photo of the knife.
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_store/images/product_images/822_22979_1261936998_1.jpg

 

[rprocter]

Hey 17, nice ! just in case you don't know: the 6OT, 7OT, & LB7 are all the same size and shape, but each has a distinct handle. absolutely excellent, tough, all-round user knife. there have been a few unused 6OT (USA) on ebay in last few months. i picked up one, with sheath, no box for about $15.
if you really want to keep this one as a collectible, i suggest you find another of any of the 3, and treat youself to the pleasure of cutting stuff with it.
roland

 

[338375]

Recent new additions are Schrade Walden 881Y, S/W 881, 293 Trapper and a 225 with correct sheath. Can't wait for that one to get here...

 

[delmas2nd]

just won this and thought would share. can't wait to get it and will make much better photos.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260550338678&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

 

[lwt210]

My latest package arrived in today's mail.....

 

[Dave Thinkstoomuch]

Here's one you don't see too often, and rarely with all the gear, and almost never for $36.

and here it is compared with the 'off shore' BT01 which i bought when they first showed up, for the price of $0.01 !

Schrade produced 3 different survival type knives and i'm not sure if the BT01 is a copy of the M-7S, or one of the other 2.
roland

Nice survival gear Roland. Actually looks useable not just flash. Gotta love the Schrade

 

[Codger_64]

My latest package arrived in today's mail.....

The earliest offering of these special editions was the 1988 catalog offering of the 152OT in a gift set, SGS-1. As your shows, it included a sheath and a 34OT "Middleman" stockman knife. This set must have been a good seller, as it was listed in every year's catalog through 2000. The knives themselves are identical to regular production pieces. The set came in a brown leatherette slip top box with a blue flocked insert tray. Occasionally a set will be see with burgundy tray, an SFO made for J.C. Penny. There are some minor differences in the earlier and later sets, but the easiest to see are the tang markings on the Sharpfinger, the logo printed on the flocked tray and the tray design itself. A second vacuume molding form was designed slightly different than yours. Of course the paperwork (located under the tray if it is still there and original to the set) is the easiest indicator via it's copyright date and the logos on it.

These same sets were also available in disposable clampacks from a few mass marketers like Wal-Mart and Kmart. The boxed gift set selection eventually expanded to some other patterns as well including the 167UH fillet knife and 8OT.

 

[lwt210]

The earliest offering of these special editions was the 1988 catalog offering of the 152OT in a gift set, SGS-1. As your shows, it included a sheath and a 34OT "Middleman" stockman knife. This set must have been a good seller, as it was listed in every year's catalog through 2000. The knives themselves are identical to regular production pieces. The set came in a brown leatherette slip top box with a blue flocked insert tray. Occasionally a set will be see with burgundy tray, an SFO made for J.C. Penny. There are some minor differences in the earlier and later sets, but the easiest to see are the tang markings on the Sharpfinger, the logo printed on the flocked tray and the tray design itself. A second vacuume molding form was designed slightly different than yours. Of course the paperwork (located under the tray if it is still there and original to the set) is the easiest indicator via it's copyright date and the logos on it.

These same sets were also available in disposable clampacks from a few mass marketers like Wal-Mart and Kmart. The boxed gift set selection eventually expanded to some other patterns as well including the 167UH fillet knife and 8OT.

Thanks for the information. No paperwork with this set. I got it for 37.00 plus shipping with no bidding competition like I though there would be.

I had several 34ots but have always wanted a sharpfinger and who can't use an extra middleman stockman, right?

I don't think either have ever been removed from the packaging as they were both "stuck" in place. I like to have never got the stockman broke free.

 

[17remfan]

I now have 3 Schrades on the way . 60T ... Sharp Finger....and a Golden Spike .Should be a fun week when they arrive .

 

[tongueriver]

I have one of the sets Michael mentions with the 167 UH, but it is matched with an 897 UH stockman, not the larger 4 inch stockman.

 

[Codger_64]

I have one of the sets Michael mentions with the 167 UH, but it is matched with an 897 UH stockman, not the larger 4 inch stockman.

Right you are. My memory fails me more often than it did... I can't remember just when.

I could have pulled out my set to check before posting but it is currently about 38 degrees (U.S.) in my mancave and I have to dress up like a polar bear to go in there and dig around.