What's your latest Schrade? END DATE 8/12

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Nice gift!! I too like the 4" stockman. A lot of knife in four inches.
 
Mike are the handles on the S-W Stockman Delrin ?
i have similar handles on a few of my S-W knives and some are Delrin and a few bone. need my 10x loupe to tell the difference. i.e. the Delrin jigging and color is a near perfect match to the bone.
roland
 
Codger_64 said:
Sometimes we rely to much on catalog art, I think. Just because production changed some insignificant detail doesn't mean the artists would go to the trouble to make entirely new illustrations. The same way most flyers used photosamples and not production knives. They were, after all, selling knives to make money, not trying to record knife history.
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Absolutely Michael! Excellent point!
Schrade (as I know you know) was notoriously sloppy with their catalogs.
When I was doing the knife lists the first time, I encountered two and perhaps a third length printed in the catalog for one of the fish fillet knives. It drove me nuts for a while. I tried to find examples of the different lengths in the same pattern number, sent lots of emails to people and generally chased my tail for a few days. Then I realized Schrade was in the business to make knives, not to make catalogs or even to accurately document the knives they made.
To Schrade catalogs were a necessary evil & a tool to sell knives & they certainly didn't spend a lot of money to document their history!

Dale

PS- I will be scarce here on BF as I am getting for the OKCA show & trying to get my customer's repairs out before the show, as much as possible. I haven't forgotten you guys here, just been super busy in the shop. See you in 3 or 4 weeks. I may need R&R after the show. :D
 
Dale, glad you dropped in! Us "mature guys" should at least drop in to say "boo" every once in a while, just to let our friends know we are O.K. I know I have gone missing a few times myself in the last few years and it does cause some concern here among our forum friends.
 
Re; Waynorth's post: Jigging of bone & Delrin,
Here are 2 S-W 834 and a Schrade/N.Y. 834

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the S-W are bone and the Schrade/N.Y. is jigged Delrin but i can only tell them apart with a 10x loupe. i.e. excellent Delrin (way nicer than Staglon with always looks artificial.
here's the back side of the 2 S-W

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Charlie is this the jigging type you referred to ?
roland
 
Great examples Roland! Super sweet red bone. Appreciate you posting these. Especially with the middle example showing the Schrade Walden engraved shield, it makes me think they came out with this jigging at the end of the jigged bone era, as the Delrin seems to follow this jigging style (they did a small amount of peachseed Delrin, but not too much. This bone and the trapper of Charlie's looks much like Case XX USA red bone.

And something tells me a few people might start squinting at the computer screen a little harder now. I may go do some gooning at a few of my knives right now. :D

One more thing Roland. How about a picture with the blades open? (no surgery please!) It appears the blade configuration is different on the Schrade Waldens. No sheepsfoot sticking up.

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Nevermind, answered my own question. The 833 had a sheepsfoot in 1958. The spey is found on the 834. No blade opening required. :)
 
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Nice examples, Roland.
Speaking generally, which you must do with Schrade it seems, this red Case-like jigging seems to have a time period. A window between peachseed and Delrin more or less.
I agree the Delrin seems modeled after it.
Like Dale, I am trying to get ready for the Oregon show, but I'll have to do some more jigging comparisons, because this red jig also looks a little like the brown/tan jigging that preceded Peachseed!!
Curiouser and curiouser!!:D
 
Hal, all 3 have Spey blades. the 2 S-W have a Pen at the master end. the later Schrade/N.Y. has a Sheepsfoot in place of the Pen.
i prefer the Pen blade in this pattern.
roland
 
rprocter said:
Hal, all 3 have Spey blades. the 2 S-W have a Pen at the master end. the later Schrade/N.Y. has a Sheepsfoot in place of the Pen.
i prefer the Pen blade in this pattern.
roland
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Uncovered something here for me. I like the 3 5/16" size knife with the clip-sheep-pen combo. The older 833. I have an 834 NY just like yours, and a couple 233 Waldens, but that jack has the clip-pen 2 blade combo with the pen in the front of the clip.
 
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Mike are the handles on the S-W Stockman Delrin ?
i have similar handles on a few of my S-W knives and some are Delrin and a few bone. need my 10x loupe to tell the difference. i.e. the Delrin jigging and color is a near perfect match to the bone.
roland
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Good question Roland. I hadn't given it any thought, just assumed they were both Delrin. So I got them out to look and to be quite honest I can't tell. The stockman does almost look like it could be bone. But I've been wrong before :D
I've heard of guys using a knife blade to tell. I'm just not real keen on dragging the edge of a knife along the scales though.
 
a good 10x loupe will show the 'pores' (transverse cuts across the Haversian canals) of bone.
i bought a Zeiss for ~ $150 and a no name from a seller in Hong Kong for $1.99 (+ $3 for shipping). both optics give an equal quality of view.
roland
 
rprocter said:
a good 10x loupe will show the 'pores' (transverse cuts across the Haversian canals) of bone.
i bought a Zeiss for ~ $150 and a no name from a seller in Hong Kong for $1.99 (+ $3 for shipping). both optics give an equal quality of view.
roland
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I like the 1.99 program better :D
 
" I like the 1.99 program better "
Right, that's why i posted the info. i also have a Bausch & Lomb which cost ~ $50. the resolution is not as good as the $1.99 Hong Kong one.
if you need one, search "loupe" on ebay. my buys were 2+ years ago, but maybe the same seller still lists these. a ridiculously good deal. a loupe you'll use forever for the price of a fancy coffee.
roland
 
This knife just came, and I couldn't be happier with it. I think it was made by Camillus for Schrade, because of the Rodgers-like bone handles that I've seen on other Camillus-made knives. I wonder if it is Rodgers, or if it was made in-house?! Anybody??:confused:
It is nicely fitted, and slim like the old time knives. I had one similar before, but it was more brick-like. Seems they used thinner gauges of liner, but still certainly strong enough.
Some of the goodness of the oldies, but new in the box!
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Looks like a dandy. Really great looking handles. Too bad there was not more of that used. First bone handled knife I've seen in a View Pak. It fits that era, having the flat ground clip blade, It looks nice with that etch too.
 
:thumbup: GREAT piece!!! Now the :( Dangit I can't even get my paws on a user 804 in delrin and you go showin out w/ a bone clad speciman:grumpy::barf:!!!!! But I guess if'n some body got to win it just as well be you:p.

Great show off Charlie;)
 
Charlie, you sure that's not delrin? Better send it here for a thorough examination:thumbup::D

I wouldn't discount those covers as being from Imperial either. They had a VERY similar, even identical bone handle, especially with that light creamy color under the fairly shalow dye layer. Nice piece, and a very unique handle (and shield) for an 804.

Eric
 
Superb Charlie!! Unreal!! I'm with Eric on the possibility of the handles coming from Imperial, when I first looked at the post the bone reminded me of a cattle knife I have made by Imperial. Although as we've learned before! Schrade/Camillus/Imperial. Anything is possible.

Russell
 
THe 804 posted above is not a "late" Schrade-Walden as the pattern # is on the pile side tang. i did not know there was 'trading' between Imperial and S-W going that far back. other than appearance of this bone, is there other evidence for this connection during the 1947- app.1960s ? the bone could have come from a common supplier.
maybe i got the history lesson wrong ?
roland
 
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