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Hey Brady. Nice Blue bone. It that a full length trapper? First I've seen a blue bone like that with the oval shield and etch. Very nice.
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larry,arent those in the flyer more of the "rope" style , rather than the picked/jigged style? i know ive seen the rope looking ones on here before and i really like those because their different.
mine a variant of the 04 models?
-----hal,that anvil is approx 20" long. lol -just kidding, yes it is a full size trapper
thanks guys---------brady
mine a variant of the 04 models?
-----hal,that anvil is approx 20" long. lol -just kidding, yes it is a full size trapper
thanks guys---------brady
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Brady, that knife is part of a five knife set that was done for Chromate. They actually did a quite a bit of business with Schrade over the years, including some scrimshaw sets. I believe the blue bones were done ( like those rope jigged 100th Anniv. knives that Larry posted above) near the time of the closing, so I'm not sure how many were actually finished. I have seen some of the completed sets, and a good number of the single knives for sale.
I think there were a lot of those five or six knife bone or wood handled sets being produced post 2000, I've seen some with brown bone, green bone, and wood, all in the same wood framed display case with foam backing for the knives. It's a shame they couldn't keep 'em going, they were some of the nicest sets since the bone Heritage Series.
Here's a shot of a complete blue bone set:
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And a scan of a couple of incomplete individuals:
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Eric
I think there were a lot of those five or six knife bone or wood handled sets being produced post 2000, I've seen some with brown bone, green bone, and wood, all in the same wood framed display case with foam backing for the knives. It's a shame they couldn't keep 'em going, they were some of the nicest sets since the bone Heritage Series.
Here's a shot of a complete blue bone set:
And a scan of a couple of incomplete individuals:
Eric
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Got a couple of recent additions. first is a Cut.Co. sheepfoot jack with nail file:
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The other is a #10 Ulster barlow that came with the original box! It was still in it's little plastic bulk wrapper when I got it. I think it's roughly from the late fifties early sixties time period judging by the bolster stamp. Not sure how long those green boxes were used though> Also, the handles do appear to be delrin, as they have the classic cream colored sides :
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The other is a #10 Ulster barlow that came with the original box! It was still in it's little plastic bulk wrapper when I got it. I think it's roughly from the late fifties early sixties time period judging by the bolster stamp. Not sure how long those green boxes were used though> Also, the handles do appear to be delrin, as they have the classic cream colored sides :
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Nice scores, Eric! The box + Barlow is cool!!
I really like sheepfoot Jacks. Older "hand" jigging on the front, it looks like the back handle was replaced with that later jigging you see occasionally. I call it basketweave Jig.
Nice knife.
Interesting to have those two jigging eras represented.
I really like sheepfoot Jacks. Older "hand" jigging on the front, it looks like the back handle was replaced with that later jigging you see occasionally. I call it basketweave Jig.
Nice knife.
Interesting to have those two jigging eras represented.
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Michael, here's a shot of the barlow's backspring, note classic Schrade delrin dye "signature".
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The thing that has always puzzled me about this particular model is that the bolster stamp doesn't match the one's in the catalogs. It's much more similar to the Old Timer stamp, font-wise. I'm wondering if the two co-existed for a time. I know that there was a concern when the R.J. Reynolds Old Timers came out that they'd eat into the sales of the Ulster barlows, and Henry suggested that the Ulsters have some upgrades over the Reynolds knives, such as full polished blades. I've got an internal memo around here somewhere that states his concerns. (Just gotta find it
) . I'm hoping to snag one of those 10OT's tomorrow, with box if all goes well, I'll do some comparing then. (It's a VERY interesting box at that! I hope it's still there!)
Russell and Charlie, I'm not sure what to make of the different handles. At first I thought the front was just more pocket worn, but a closer inspection reveals that it's not worn at all, just rather heavily hafted from the shield back. It doesn't appear to have been used much at all, inside's clean save for a bit of rust on the springs in a couple of areas, otherwise they're shiny too. Both blades line up nicely with the springs, and have nice tight half stops and excellent walk and talk. The odd thing is that it doesn't appear in the catalog in this form, the only jack with the file is the Navy knife on page 31, and that's an EO, with a shackle, and no shield. That's another odd thing, the bar shield is something you don't often see on the old Schrade jacks. Of course they may well have been on the pre-1926 models. I am somewhat baffled, hopefully not to the point of being miffed.
Eric
The thing that has always puzzled me about this particular model is that the bolster stamp doesn't match the one's in the catalogs. It's much more similar to the Old Timer stamp, font-wise. I'm wondering if the two co-existed for a time. I know that there was a concern when the R.J. Reynolds Old Timers came out that they'd eat into the sales of the Ulster barlows, and Henry suggested that the Ulsters have some upgrades over the Reynolds knives, such as full polished blades. I've got an internal memo around here somewhere that states his concerns. (Just gotta find it
) . I'm hoping to snag one of those 10OT's tomorrow, with box if all goes well, I'll do some comparing then. (It's a VERY interesting box at that! I hope it's still there!)Russell and Charlie, I'm not sure what to make of the different handles. At first I thought the front was just more pocket worn, but a closer inspection reveals that it's not worn at all, just rather heavily hafted from the shield back. It doesn't appear to have been used much at all, inside's clean save for a bit of rust on the springs in a couple of areas, otherwise they're shiny too. Both blades line up nicely with the springs, and have nice tight half stops and excellent walk and talk. The odd thing is that it doesn't appear in the catalog in this form, the only jack with the file is the Navy knife on page 31, and that's an EO, with a shackle, and no shield. That's another odd thing, the bar shield is something you don't often see on the old Schrade jacks. Of course they may well have been on the pre-1926 models. I am somewhat baffled, hopefully not to the point of being miffed.
Eric
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Sometimes we rely to much on catalog art, I think. Just because production changed some insignificant detail doesn't mean the artists would go to the trouble to make entirely new illustrations. The same way most flyers used photosamples and not production knives. They were, after all, selling knives to make money, not trying to record knife history.
As to the odd covers on the SCC, the shielded cover looks to me to be a replacement. As has been pointed out, the dye and jigging are quite different from the opposite side. If not the shielded side replaced, then the other is. You should be able to tell with a super close look in very bright light at different angles. If it is a replacement, it was a job well done in spite of the mismatched color and jigging. Pins look spun, not peened and bone seems to meet bolsters nicely. Dunno.
As to the odd covers on the SCC, the shielded cover looks to me to be a replacement. As has been pointed out, the dye and jigging are quite different from the opposite side. If not the shielded side replaced, then the other is. You should be able to tell with a super close look in very bright light at different angles. If it is a replacement, it was a job well done in spite of the mismatched color and jigging. Pins look spun, not peened and bone seems to meet bolsters nicely. Dunno.
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Disregarding the "end of days knives," I think there was probably a constant flow of non-catalog knives. The so-called "lunch box knives" is one example, but in any human endeavor, there is always something extra going on which is a little outside the box. We are talking about a factory full of dozens of people, running along for a hundred years, turning out millions of product. I would and do expect most anything. I have seen in 3 years lots of oddballs that I can't find in the old catalogs.
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Not to mention those "off the books" projects.
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This knife, fresh from the Post Office, must be of the type used to model the Delrin Schrade Waldens. I have never seen one quite like it before. Usually they are not so Red; the Bone on this one is pretty special, much more so than the Ebay pics suggested. Nicely preserved and snappy, and with a nice deep patina . . . . . .it's off to the buffing wheel!!!
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