What's your latest Schrade? START DATE 8/12

[Saddlebum]

Great display!!

 

[koldgold]

Great display!!

Have a look at this old listing on ebay, the seller may still have some of the Cigar Box Knives.
If not you can still have a look, and see some did come out of Schrade before 2004.
The real Schrade knives had the Schrade+ L.T.D blade stamp, and the box is marked "HAND MADE IN THE U.S.A." bottom left of box.

There was a number of them made by Taylor, after Schrade closed down, be careful when buying them.
eBay item number: 351365089387
This is an original 2004 Schrade Cigar box.

This box with a knife in it, sold for $5! That is about what the items made in China, are worth.

 

[delmas2nd]

speaking of Scrimshaw, picked this one up a couple of weeks ago. i think it is a 49'er with the Independence Mining Co. has a serial number of 1755. was this in a series or one made for said company?

 

[akula83]

I think we all agree the 3 pin LB7 above was manufactured in the 1980's.

Thanks for the info guys.

 

[Saddlebum]

speaking of Scrimshaw, picked this one up a couple of weeks ago. i think it is a 49'er with the Independence Mining Co. has a serial number of 1755. was this in a series or one made for said company?

NICE KNIFE!! I haven't seen very many of those miners. Where does it say Indepenence Mining Co.? I thought those were part of a 'series', if you will, along with the Cowboy and Pony Express knives. Not sure if that qualifies as a series or not. I have the two I mentioned. There are others that are color scrimshaw like that but I hardly ever see them and don't remember what the subjects were on them. Someone might get in on this and refresh my broken memory. Good find!

 

[Saddlebum]

Have a look at this old listing on ebay, the seller may still have some of the Cigar Box Knives.
If not you can still have a look, and see some did come out of Schrade before 2004.
The real Schrade knives had the Schrade+ L.T.D blade stamp, and the box is marked "HAND MADE IN THE U.S.A." bottom left of box.

I think I determined through some research that the green bone handled CBC came out in 2003 and the brown bone in 2004. You like probing into what was in the pipeline around '03 and '04, well what do you think about these two that I have that have a different kind of bone color? These show up on ebay from time to time and have been determined by me and others as unfinished CBC knives. There is a guy over at AAPK that has both the finished and complete CBC and some of these unfinished ones. The muskrat I got about a year and a half ago and the matching unfinished trapper just a couple of months ago. Not as nice as the finished CBC in a box, but darn nice bone handled genuine Schrade EOD knives just the same. I wondered if because of the different bone color, if there wasn't some new edition to the CBC that never made it to completion. I think your discussion on unfinished projects got me thinking about these two knives as a possible unfinished project. What do you think?

I think when the sun comes back out in a couple of days I will put these two together for a group photo. Something better than these auction pics. They actually look more closely matched than these auction pics.

Here is another from an auction that shows the darker color that mine actually is. I think mine got darker over the last year.

EDIT; I forgot to comment on the tang stamps. It appears from the file photos on the Schrade website archives that they used both the Schrade+ stamp and the revived Schrade Walden stamp. I was curious about that since the pic I posted above has the Schrade+ and all others that I have seen are Schrade Walden.

From the same web page as the above CSW98

 

[Codger_64]

speaking of Scrimshaw, picked this one up a couple of weeks ago. i think it is a 49'er with the Independence Mining Co. has a serial number of 1755. was this in a series or one made for said company?

Cool find! It was a part of a series but this one looks like it was remaindered as an SFO with added blade etch for the mining company.

 

[koldgold]

I forgot to comment on the tang stamps. It appears from the file photos on the Schrade website archives that they used both the Schrade+ stamp and the revived Schrade Walden stamp. I was curious about that since the pic I posted above has the Schrade+ and all others that I have seen are Schrade Walden.

From the same web page as the above CSW98

The knives shown in the 2003-04 product guide, show all four knives in the "New Cigar Box knives".

All had the old Walden tang stamp as the knife shown above (it is a CSW296 - the CSW98 was a 3 blade knife)
The Cigar Box knives were; CSW296, CSW72, CSW98 and CSW77.

I think the other Trapper is an un-finished CSW296.

The Muskrat looks like it is made up of odd parts - It looks like mostly 77OT - Maybe Tradesman bone handles ect.
Schrade stopped making the 77OT Muskrat back in 2002.

 

[Saddlebum]

Cool find! It was a part of a series but this one looks like it was remaindered as an SFO with added blade etch for the mining company.

Ahh, the blade etch. I didn't put that together. If you're still here, Codger, what were those other painted scrimshaws? Seems like there was a Pioneer or something with a covered wagon?

 

[Saddlebum]

The knives shown in the 2003-04 product guide, show all four knives in the "New Cigar Box knives".
All have the old Walden tang stamp as the knife above (it is a CSW296 - the CSW98 was a 3 blade knife)
The Cigar Box knives were; CSW296, CSW72, CSW98 and CSW77.

I think the other Trapper is an un-finished CSW296.
The Musk-rat looks like it is made up of odd parts - It looks like mostly 77OT - Maybe Tradesman bone handles.
Schrade stopped making the 77OT Muskrat back in 2002.

It's confusing. The website says the CSW98 is a single blade trapper and doesn't show a stockman. I have seen the premium stockman version CBC. I don't know what the model number is though. Here is the webpage link. http://web.archive.org/web/20040401134745/http://schradeknives.com/cigarBox.htm

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but the muskrat is an unfinished CBC CSW77.

 

[koldgold]

It's confusing. The website says the CSW98 is a single blade trapper and doesn't show a stockman. I have seen the premium stockman version CBC. I don't know what the model number is though. Here is the webpage link. http://web.archive.org/web/20040401134745/http://schradeknives.com/cigarBox.htm

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but the muskrat is an unfinished CBC CSW77.

If you go back to the archive above, and look at the flyer on the left. (the same as shown in Schrade's Product Guide) you will see the stockman listed as CSW98. As for the Muskrat, I do not have it in my hand - if it has the Walden blade stamp it's an un-finished CSW77, without the old Walden shield.

 

[Saddlebum]

If you go back to the archive above, and look at the flyer on the left. (the same as shown in Schrade's Product Guide) you will see the stockman listed as CSW98. As for the Muskrat, I do not have it in my hand - if it has the Walden blade stamp it's an un-finished CSW77, without the old Walden shield.

I guess I don't know what you're looking at. I'm looking at the following description, (copy and paste), in the same block as the single blade trapper. Confusing?
CSW98
Single blade pocket knife
Polished Stainless Steel blade
Polished/threaded nickel silver bolsters
Schrade Walden tang stamp
Genuine “Green Mountain” bone handles
Schrade Walden era handle shield
Cigar Box with presentation vac tray

 

[koldgold]

I guess I don't know what you're looking at. I'm looking at the following description, (copy and paste), in the same block as the single blade trapper. Confusing?
CSW98
Single blade pocket knife
Polished Stainless Steel blade
Polished/threaded nickel silver bolsters
Schrade Walden tang stamp
Genuine “Green Mountain” bone handles
Schrade Walden era handle shield
Cigar Box with presentation vac tray

The knife you are looking at (listed as a CSW98) is in the bottom "Right Hand Corner" - IF you look in the other "TOP LEFT HAND CORNER" you will see the flyer, showing the FULL SET of CSW knives. Like all the Schrade sets, Schrade would release the knives one at a time or even two at a time. I believe Schrade did not produce 1000 X 4 = 4000 Cigar Box Knives. The page you are looking at is a wish-list and no relation to what really happened in 2004. I believe, your un-Finished CSW77 was the start of the next release, that did not happen. Just like the ACB set of Blue Rope-cut Bone knives, that did not make it to production.
This is the best I can do. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE "Genuine Green Mountain bone handles" listed in the page you'r looking at.

This 3 blade Stockman, Schrade listed it as a CSW98 and the bone looks like "Golden Brown" to me.

 

[Saddlebum]

The knife you are looking at (listed as a CSW98) is in the bottom "Right Hand Corner" - IF you look in the other "TOP LEFT HAND CORNER" you will see the flyer, showing the FULL SET of CSW knives. Like all the Schrade sets, Schrade would release the knives one at a time or even two at a time. I believe Schrade did not produce 1000 X 4 = 4000 Cigar Box Knives. The page you are looking at is a wish-list and no relation to what really happened in 2004. I believe, your un-Finished CSW77 was the start of the next release, that did not happen. Just like the ACB set of Blue Rope-cut Bone knives, that did not make it to production.
This is the best I can do. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE "Genuine Green Mountain bone handles" listed in the page you'r looking at.

It's confusing to me that the CSW98 is listed as the stockman in the flyer you pictured and as the single blade trapper on the website. I didn't doubt what you posted about the stockman and I guess I missed that link along the way, it's just that I saw the CSW98 as a trapper on their website. Who knows, I just know that I can't find anyone who has ever seen the actual CBC single blade trapper, finished or unfinished. That one interests me alot. I wondered if you thought the two I have were maybe the next issue to come out or something like that. It's fun and frustrating at the same time trying to figure out what's what. I guess we could attribute the website listing as an error. If I had to guess which knife goes with that model number, I would guess it goes with the stockman. Wish I could find a stockman to match my other two. Thanks for being patient with me and my confusion. I don't know about the Green Mountain knives. Do you suppose that one of these in the picture is one of them? They are dweb1897's knives over at AAPK. Two complete and one not. Maybe the one on the bottom?

 

[koldgold]

The knife on that web-site (Showen blow) has it listed as a:
CSW98
Single blade pocket knife
Polished Stainless Steel blade
Polished/threaded nickel silver bolsters
Schrade Walden tang stamp
Genuine “Green Mountain” bone handles
Schrade Walden era handle shield
Cigar Box with presentation vac tray

It lists* Schrade Walden tang stamp. And it clearly has a Schrade+ tang stamp.
They have also forgot to mention, it is a line-locked.
After looking at the knife above, there can be no doubt; the knife listed as a CSW98 is in fact a CSW296 with an OTC96 blade and a line-locker replacing the extra blade. Schrade also made a Duck knife about 2002-2003 the SDU197, that is a one blade line-locker.
The knife was probably put together with odd parts, in Schrade's last weeks - when knives were made up of any thing they could find.
This is also some thing about the Cigar Box Classics...
http://www.newslikethis.com/schrade...ion-large-trapper-three-blade-muskrat-pattern

 

[delmas2nd]

it is an etch on the blade.

NICE KNIFE!! I haven't seen very many of those miners. Where does it say Indepenence Mining Co.? I thought those were part of a 'series', if you will, along with the Cowboy and Pony Express knives. Not sure if that qualifies as a series or not. I have the two I mentioned. There are others that are color scrimshaw like that but I hardly ever see them and don't remember what the subjects were on them. Someone might get in on this and refresh my broken memory. Good find!

 

[Saddlebum]

I need a new camera. Here are the two unfinished 'Schrade Walden' CBC knives I have. CSW77 and CSW296 without shield and serial number. Hope to find the matching stockman too.

 

[delmas2nd]

just got this neat little knife in. don't recall ever seeing it in the catalogs. being a Schrade Walden i know that puts it pre 1973 anyone have the information on manufacture date. now i can be sophisticated and smoke my pipe. (guess i will have to go buy one)

 

[Codger_64]

just got this neat little knife in. don't recall ever seeing it in the catalogs. being a Schrade Walden i know that puts it pre 1973 anyone have the information on manufacture date. now i can be sophisticated and smoke my pipe. (guess i will have to go buy one)

These might appear in the Sears catalogs from the 1950's. I will look later. My files are for the most part packed up still.

 

[Saddlebum]

just got this neat little knife in. don't recall ever seeing it in the catalogs. being a Schrade Walden i know that puts it pre 1973 anyone have the information on manufacture date. now i can be sophisticated and smoke my pipe. (guess i will have to go buy one)

That is a cool little item you have there. It looks to be in great shape too. I never find good stuff like that.

I did spend some money on knives in the last week though.

296SC Wolverine 1996 (Duffy) The better pics were activa protected.

Cigar Box Classics CSW77 2003

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