When is Buck making modern 110 ?

MeanBeaver said:
I think most people are missing the point of a modernized 110/112. Nobody wants them replaced. We want a new model that has the same amazing looks and style of the 110/112, but is thinner and lighter with one hand opening and a pocket clip. The name doesn't have to be remotely related to the 110. Call it the "Buck supergroove 1000" if you want. Ill still buy one if buck makes it.
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I started a similar thread a few weeks back and felt the same way. Got the impression that it's not so much that people are missing the point, but it's a non-starter to make comparisons/suggest features that other brands are using in this sub-forum.

Buck does have some cool looking modern style folders, however I'm in agreement that they should make lightweight 110/112 styled folders using G-10, thumb studs, and a pocket clip. Not as a replacement to the classics, but in addition to them.
 
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People want knives that look like the Buck 110 but are thinner and lighter and able to be pocket carried.
 
Whoever doesnt have one of these in their collection or want a slimmer 110 should try this knife. It is a really nice product at the price point.
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The Bucklite Max folders are certainly modern looking and thin and light and easy to carry. I think that is exactly the size and weigh range people are asking for.

But they don't look like a Buck 110, not in the same way that the original Bucklites did, or like the Ecolites did.

They're also pretty soft. If you talk to the people in Buck's warranty department, they'll tell you they don't hold up like their metal framed/lined knives due to the soft nature of the plastic. I've owned 2 and they got scary loose in less than a year each. One reason people are asking for G10 scales is that many other manufacturers have shown that linerless G10 lockbacks are plenty durable.
 
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There is a difference between desire and advice. I imagine Buck appreciates one of those. Maybe people giving advice should start their own company.

Bert
 
bertl said:
There is a difference between desire and advice. I imagine Buck appreciates one of those. Maybe people giving advice should start their own company.

Bert
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I don't know too many companies that wouldn't welcome input/ideas from previous and/or potential customers.
 
The way I see it the buck 110 is what it is so take it or leave it, it comes with a nice piece of leather so use it.
 
Hickory n steel said:
The way I see it the buck 110 is what it is so take it or leave it, it comes with a nice piece of leather so use it.
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Well put. I have mine on my side right now and that's where I like it. I would like to see different offerings, but it really wouldn't be a 110. It is what it is...
 
Hickory n steel said:
The way I see it the buck 110 is what it is so take it or leave it, it comes with a nice piece of leather so use it.
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JD Bear said:
Well put. I have mine on my side right now and that's where I like it. I would like to see different offerings, but it really wouldn't be a 110. It is what it is...
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It's nowhere near that simple.

Buck currently offers and has in the past offered a bunch of customized 110s in the current and past custom shops.

Buck occasionally does special runs of 110 variants.

Buck has produced 110 variants as a standing product (the Ecolite 110).

Buck sells a bunch of different 110 variants to BCCI members.

Buck makes a whole lotta of 110 variants as SFOs for retailers willing to meet minimum run size and big enough orders.

And of course, there are a lot of well known and well established 110 customizers include Leroy Remer, David Yellowhorse and our own Jared.

IMO, Jared's designs point in a direction that Buck should be offering either in its own custom shop, as SFOs or even as a regular catalog item.

Jared, I like it. A lot. I would prefer no pocket clip and barehead, but I love the scales and the screwed construction.
 
pinnah said:
It's nowhere near that simple.

Buck currently offers and has in the past offered a bunch of customized 110s in the current and past custom shops.

Buck occasionally does special runs of 110 variants.

Buck has produced 110 variants as a standing product (the Ecolite 110).

Buck sells a bunch of different 110 variants to BCCI members.

Buck makes a whole lotta of 110 variants as SFOs for retailers willing to meet minimum run wsize and big enough orders.

And of course, there are a lot of well known and well established 110 customizers include Leroy Remer, David Yellowhorse and our own Jared.

IMO, Jared's designs point in a direction that Buck should be offering either in its own custom shop, as SFOs or even as a regular catalog item.

Jared, I like it. A lot. I would prefer no pocket clip and barehead, but I love the scales and the screwed construction.
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The ecolite had a distinguishing name, and was it's own product.
Different steels , ns vs brass , and different handle materials are one thing. But anything more and it becomes a new product.

So I still stand by my statement that the buck 110 is what it is.

Even non knife people know the buck 110, if they can't instantly recognize it that should tell you something.
 
Repost Jarred's 110 in the general forum and ask people to identify it.

Do the same with any Yellowhorse or Remer custom.

Or with a Cabelas version (different steel etc).

Or with the drop point g10 versions being discussed in another thread.

They're all legitimate 110s and will be universally recognized as such.
 
Hickory n steel said:
The ecolite had a distinguishing name, and was it's own product.
Different steels , ns vs brass , and different handle materials are one thing. But anything more and it becomes a new product.

So I still stand by my statement that the buck 110 is what it is.

Even non knife people know the buck 110, if they can't instantly recognize it that should tell you something.
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I agree with this completely. The frame doesn't change. Natural materials are still used and, like Hickory n steel said, it's the same design in brass or n/s. Anything else is just borrowing the blade.
 
A thinner 110 is a real good idea for Buck. Wasn't the 111 a little thinner and it was a bit lighter because of the aluminum frame? It has been a long time since I have seen one but I seem to remember that. Buck has made lighter and thinner 110s in the past and certainly could again. Although I hope for G10, a thinner Titanium frame, or Aluminum/Scandium alloy frame would be nice, too.
 
pinnah said:
Repost Jarred's 110 in the general forum and ask people to identify it.

Do the same with any Yellowhorse or Remer custom.

Or with a Cabelas version (different steel etc).

Or with the drop point g10 versions being discussed in another thread.

They're all legitimate 110s and will be universally recognized as such.
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A knife person would, but no non knife person would recognize a drop point 110.
I've never seen a yellowhorse 110, but if he does what Micheal Prater from painted pony does ( just gives it some fancy handle scales ) then it would simply be a dolled up 110.

I'm a fan of the standard / close to standard 110, so I'll probably never change my mind.
I may find a variation of its blade being used that I like, but if it has deviated too much it just won't be a 110 in my eyes.

Coke and Shasta are both cola and both come in a red can, but they're absolutely not the same and Shasta will never be coke.
 
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Hickory, here's one for you....




That's the SFO being sold by SKBlades currently. Discussion on it is here:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...fe-Offering-You-Chose-the-Color-Buck-110s-G10

IMO, it's a stunning knife. Please note, SKBlades contracted this from Buck and is selling it as a Buck 110 with Buck's blessing. This sort of thing is old news. The 110 name is more than just the classic.

Heck, the classic isn't the classic. Dymondwood (tm) is to wood as micarta is to linen. Yes, there's some actual wood somewhere in the Dymondwood but it's a natural/synthetic composite. It's closer to micarta than, say, plywood.

Just to be clear, I got my first 110 in the 70s (when wood was wood) and have a fairly current 110 in my right rear pocket as I type this. I love the classic. It's not going anywhere in the Buck line. But Buck crossed the bridge of using the name "110" for variants of the classic a long time ago. Sort of old news, I think.

EDITED to ADD: IMO, Buck would be wise to be even more expansive in the variants they produce under the 110 name. The shape of the 110 frame is instantly recognizable (and copied) as a "Buck knife" (a generic term). Buck has two solid blade shapes, the classic clip point (which has changed considerably over the years) and the drop point. I would love to see Buck continue to offer the 110 in a variety of blade shapes, grinds (hollow, sabre-flat, full flat), bolster configurations (classic double bolster, barehead, bolsterless), widths (classic fat, thinline) and optional pocket clips, thumb studs and lanyard holes. All of them.
 
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pinnah said:
Hickory, here's one for you....




That's the SFO being sold by SKBlades currently. Discussion on it is here:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...fe-Offering-You-Chose-the-Color-Buck-110s-G10

IMO, it's a stunning knife. Please note, SKBlades contracted this from Buck and is selling it as a Buck 110 with Buck's blessing. This sort of thing is old news. The 110 name is more than just the classic.

Heck, the classic isn't the classic. Dymondwood (tm) is to wood as micarta is to linen. Yes, there's some actual wood somewhere in the Dymondwood but it's a natural/synthetic composite. It's closer to micarta than, say, plywood.

Just to be clear, I got my first 110 in the 70s (when wood was wood) and have a fairly current 110 in my right rear pocket as I type this. I love the classic. It's not going anywhere in the Buck line. But Buck crossed the bridge of using the name "110" for variants of the classic a long time ago. Sort of old news, I think.

EDITED to ADD: IMO, Buck would be wise to be even more expansive in the variants they produce under the 110 name. The shape of the 110 frame is instantly recognizable (and copied) as a "Buck knife" (a generic term). Buck has two solid blade shapes, the classic clip point (which has changed considerably over the years) and the drop point. I would love to see Buck continue to offer the 110 in a variety of blade shapes, grinds (hollow, sabre-flat, full flat), bolster configurations (classic double bolster, barehead, bolsterless), widths (classic fat, thinline) and optional pocket clips, thumb studs and lanyard holes. All of them.
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That last drop point folding hunter is awesome, but it needs a model number.

There's only a few minor changes that can be made before creating a new knife.
The buck 110 is a clip point folding hunter, that's why every 110 copy ( including the Shcrade, and case models ) use a clip point blade.
It's not a buck 110 unless it's a buck 110.
 
there should be one in g10,no bolsters and no liners,with original blade,clip and thumbstuds and in s30v,and other variants,d2,13c26 and 420hc!
 
Buy one of the SK 110's penny and you'll quickly find it's heavier than a std. 110. Which I wouldn't mind. Then you'd find another one you don't like. G10 is a heavy material. I've used it in making folders and handles. Now if they did away with a 110's bolster ends and left just a liner or even no frame the G10 could handle it and it will still be heavy. For a 110 like these hard to please experts want you'll have to go to the Buck Classic. Those were light and thin and had 440C blades. DM
 
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