When is Buck making modern 110 ?

Ti, yes they had them. I don't have a photo of one to show you. But plenty of collectors do. DM
 
DocT said:
A thinner 110 is a real good idea for Buck. Wasn't the 111 a little thinner and it was a bit lighter because of the aluminum frame? It has been a long time since I have seen one but I seem to remember that. Buck has made lighter and thinner 110s in the past and certainly could again. Although I hope for G10, a thinner Titanium frame, or Aluminum/Scandium alloy frame would be nice, too.
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Doc, you're thinking of the Classics. DM
 
My initial attraction to the 110 was the size and shape of the blade. The blade steels can be upgraded to S-60-V, S-90-V, S-110-V, or S-125-V. The handles could be upgraded to 6-4 Titanium, Carbon fiber, Scandium Aluminum, etc.
I have modified Buck knives with impugnity. Custom blades in Stellite 6-K, CPM S-110-V, and ladder Damascus have been ordered. Helicoils, pocket clips, and thumb studs were added.
The Titanium handled knives are a good place to start. The knives are no longer made because the factory burned down, but there are many 560's and 186's around that can be modified to reduce weight, add features, and improve pocketability.
Pocket clips and thumb studs (one hand opening) are very useful features. Titanium frames lend themselves to drilling and tapping for pocket clips. Clamp on thumb studs are available from the Buck factory store.
Titanium handle slabs can be milled or ground to reduce thickness. Screw sets in the pivot can allow for blade exchanges and/or upgrades. All of the Selector blades can be dropped into the 186. The modularity of the 110/186/560 models allows almost infinite combinations of handles and blades. Utilizing 111 Auminum handles can halve the weight of Titanium handles. Pocket clips can be added to plastic handled Bucklites and Selectors using #2X56 TPI Helicoils.
Why wait for Buck to come up with your favorite combination of parts when you mix and match your own?
I changed clamp on pocket clips to clamp on thumb studs. I shouldn't post before I am awake.
 
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Buck makes a wide variety of 110's in various renditions (Bucklite, titanium) and I've owned a bunch of them, but I keep coming back to the hand-heavy, elegant, wooden grip, brass-framed original. I currently have two, a standard 420HC autographed (engraved) by Chuck Buck, and a BassPro 110 in CPM154. Both cut like a screaming witch. They just feel good in the hand. Haven't gone for a Custom Shop, stag-handled 110 with silver bolsters and a S30V blade, yet, but that day may be soon approaching:D.
 
Ti, Yes, I see what your saying and I think it was the 186 that had the first pocket clips. Indeed you don't have to wait on Buck to bring out your desired knife. One can simply do it. No fuss, no whinning. Your correct the 111 did have Aluminum handles. These were the Classics. But when I mention the 111 I'm speaking of a Very Different model. Which had radiused bolsters. A more recent model that has been discontinued. I do this to differentiate between the two. Thus, it's known what one I'm talking about. DM
 
Ed, to me the Bass Pro and Alaskan Guide models were a upgrade from the Custom Shop knives. They had a steel and the coating which are not offered in the Custom Shop. DM
 
I wouldn't want the 110 any lighter at all,the weight of that knife lets you know it's a workhorse,if it was light you would soon see the difference on big cutting jobs and long use you would be using a lot more muscle to make a light knife do the work of a heavy one,
 
Razor, plus the thinner handles tend to give hot spots on the hand with long use. Whereas a wider handle gives more force and comfort in cutting. DM
 
The clip on the 186 Titan was actually a belt clip for right handed users. It could work as a pocket clip for a lefty. If you want to get away from a sheath or keep your pants up, it helps if the knife is lighter, skinnier, and has a pocket clip. Thumb studs also improve utility IMHO.
If you like a thick handle, Valox, Aluminum, or Titanium can still reduce the weight. Radiusing a handle can also reduce hotspots. I have never heard the theory that a heavy knife reduces muscle fatigue compared to a lighter counterpart. That could be true of a matchete, but I think we're talking folders here.
Buck does reuse numbers like 186 and 111. You wouldn't think that would be necessary unless you had more than 999 models.
 
RAZORBLADES said:
I wouldn't want the 110 any lighter at all,the weight of that knife lets you know it's a workhorse,if it was light you would soon see the difference on big cutting jobs and long use you would be using a lot more muscle to make a light knife do the work of a heavy one,
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I've had a different experience.

As a bike mechanic, I learned to hate French made things and when I got my first Opinel in a bike parts trade, it's light weight offended me. So, I went out of my way to try to break it, just to make the point.

I've had a bunch of lockbacks loosen up on me over the years, including a bunch of Bucks. To my chagrin, I've never been able to create any blade play in a large Opinel, much less break one.

I switched to back pocket carry this winter and primarily rotate between a standard 110 and an Opinel #10. They're very different knives with different characters. I would never pick the Opinel over the 110 for hunting. But the Opinel #10 is both lighter and tougher than the 110. That's been hard for me to admit but to say otherwise would cause me to lie about my experience.

As for hand fatigue, for me that is a matter of handle shape, not weight.
 
Why do members discuss other knives they want that Buck can't offer in the Buck forum.

It's like going to the Ford dealership and saying you want a Mercedes.
 
You don't think Buck can make a 110 variant more in tune with today's buyer? I do. Why not? They make enough other variants. The Loscha was headed in the right direction. Would be a nice $50 knife with 420HC. The Ecolite was in the right direction. It deserves a reboot, IMO. The current SK drop points are stunning.

IMO, it does Buck and this subforum good to have other brands used as indicators of what's possible. Otherwise it descends to the stale air of an echo chamber.

The classic 110 should never be changed. But neither should it be a shackle that prevents Buck from making 110 variants for today's evolving tastes.
 
First off I almost can't comment anymore or I end up killing a thread for some reason. Don't let that happen here.

I think here we are discussing the Bread and Butter of Buck Knives the 110. Changing something that has sold over 2 million examples will be considered carefully. Especially in a factory supporting product. I have voiced my desire to have steels and scales in several models but production methods of a selling model are reinforced with stockpiles of materials that must be paid for and research on what they can hope to sell. Lots of times what we are "wishing" for are Custom/Limited made editions. A 110 that you will likely have to have made and pay the price to get it. Lets just play with a thin scale camel bone 110 with a clip and a fancy steel, it will likely cost at least a C-note even if it was made in the factory and in large numbers. The projections may require they sell at least 50,000 pieces to pay for the change in production methods, tooling, material orders, etc. I am not sure how often a business could afford to do that. Hence, some knives come and go, but the 110s have always sold, so they keep being made. Materials are bought in large amounts to keep the cost of the finished product reasonable. So if I want a 301 with a fancy scale or fancy blade I will have to wait for a limited run or go and find a way to build or have one built and pay the piper. If you remember the BCCI got 300 fancy 301s made and then because of the price had a heck of time selling them. All this said, I think we still need to keep talking about our 'wants' because I think the market research people may actually read the forum......now and again.

Speaking as a forum poster/reader and moderator. I walk a tightrope all the time on folks bringing up other companies knives. As pinnah states comparing them with Bucks is healthy and is in fact a part of forum type dialogue and discussion. When someone posts pictures of some other knife and waxes on about its qualities with no link to a Buck model, I look with squinted eyes on what they are trying to say. If they are just beating another company drum ( and continue to do so), I will have to moderate and you folks can help out on that as well. Some photos and talk should be allowed if it can be transposed to Buck comparison discussion. There was a photo in another post I had to carefully study the short text that was with it to find a small connection to Buck. It still lives, un-moderated because that is part of the job also. In pinnahs case saying something about his experiences with a Opie is valid. I hope everyone will be like Doug and at least ask what is the point here in talking about some other knife in a Buck discussion. The first part of this post is my point of view on the discussion the second is just a comment on forum life. 300
 
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Bet that KABAR is made in China!! No thanks.I don't need or want a clip on my BUCK!Lost knives with clips.I also don't need someone seeing a clip & knowing I have a knife.I carry a BUCK 560 & it feels light!
Jim
 
shewww... That was a close call. I'm sure glad someone knows what direction Buck needs to be heading. Yes, I hope their marketing folks read this. DM
 
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