Post #15 is what I use at home and LOVE it (wouldn't insult my chef in a fine restaurant-only place to go since I can do VERY well at home and dating ended 36 years ago ). However, marcinek has pointed out his use of an XXXXL stabmaster (or some such) which keeps him out of some of the more exclusive places (at least that's what he blames it on ) Really, if you need to bring your own knife to cut your steak, I suggest you are either having fun or need to find a better place.