Who Makes The Highest Performance CPM-3V On The Market Today?

sidewayyys said:
I said his test is retarded. There's a difference. I'm sure you could figure that out...unless..maybe...you...are ...retarded???? (Sorry if thats too far, its a joke really)

Catch on brother. Its really not that hard.

Im not a liar either, thanks. You can reference all my comments to see.

(But you said im making a fool of myself, lol)
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Sideways,
Now you're gaslighting me.
You need to go sit in timeout for a while.
You are a liar. You are trying to twist the truth of what you said. It's quite obvious what you're getting at.
 
azwelke said:
Sideways,
Now you're gaslighting me.
You need to go sit in timeout for a while.
You are a liar. You are trying to twist the truth of what you said. It's quite obvious what you're getting at.
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Are you serious? My comments are clear for all to see. I never said he is retarded. I said his test is, which is true.

The only thing that is obvious is that you cannot read and have falsely accused me twice now.
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I personally have never tested a steel with better gross durability than Infi.

We can talk about things like joules of energy absorbed in an impact test and lateral bending strength etc. But, just like abrasive wear resistance is not always good measure of edge retention, toughness is not always a perfect measure of durability. Otherwise we'd just be using S7. If you're going to bounce a knife off of a rock or cut an anvil in half, in my opinion, there is no steel that will shrug off extremely rough use better than Infi.

Also, in my opinion, the advantages of the PM process don't always outweigh the negatives. You're trying to weld a powdered steel back into 100% density and, hopefully, form all the same amount and type of metallic bonds that you would have formed in a melt steel. It isn't foolproof. The application for PM is usually simply making steels that cannot be effectively made utilizing a conventional melt process due to the carbide type and volume. If you have a lot of vanadium, it's going to form solid vanadium carbide well before the surrounding steel matrix begins to solidify. The only way to get a small evenly distributed vanadium carbide in high volumes is the PM process.

People need to keep in mind when talking about grain size, they're not referring to the size of the carbides, they're talking about the steel grain. And the manufacturing process used to create the steel doesn't dictate grain size. That is more a function of the alloy and the heat condition. The PM process gives you finer alloy and carbide size and distribution, not necessarily grain size.

3V does not inherently have fantastic edge stability and there has been a lot of work by a lot of people to modify the heat treat to give it the fine edge stability it needs to tolerate rough use, otherwise the abrasion resistance is meaningless because the edge loss is not abrasive in nature. My intent, sending that knife to Cobalt, was to show him the difference an edge stability and subsequent edge retention between the industry standard 3V heat treat and an optimized heat treat.

My knife abuse videos exist not to demonstrate how tough the knives are (3V is tough, that's pretty much baked in) it was to prove that the changes to the heat treat that improved the edge stability and reduced edge loss in rough use don't weaken the knife or otherwise ruin the steel and heat treat. Otherwise it would be throwing the baby out with the bath water.

It is my opinion that nobody does 3V better than me. It has a lot of capabilities and is not merely well balanced but outperforms most steels in most ways. But I would never claim that it is tougher than Infi, it just isn't. :thumbsup:
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sidewayyys said:
I know that a friend of Nathans that served in the military helped create that design - or had a part in it. But im not sure that CPK has/had military contracts for that knife, or any.
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Nathan released it twice to the military if I understand his comments (you can search yourself - he’s pretty quiet about it): in 2017 and 2021.

Bottom line for me is

1) I have and use knives from both makers; good to have a choice. Makes no sense for us users to pitch them against each other.

2) While Busse is the older and bigger company (many more models, general user experience, etc), SR 3V is pretty young. Not enough knives or experience with it out there, while CPK has refined 3V for almost a decade, lots of positive user experience has been accumulated. Time will tell if D3V can be beat.
 
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sidewayyys said:
You are saying NONE of them could whittle a hair without being modified? I bet there are a few on their website right now that could i.e those would a stock thickness of .090"......
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The only Busse that came hair whittling sharp from the factory for me was a Crab Shack Elmax Slicer. I've had to sharpen all of the smaller blades that I use. I haven't sharpened the Busse swords I own, but they're not the sharpest factory edges I've had.
 
Yowza!!!

Voodoo and his Swamp Rat Custom Shop team are about to release a magnificent SR-3V cowboy knife.

That's why the subject of high-performance CPM-3V came up.

Voodoo is looking for CPM-3V high-performance claims that come close to those already achieved by Swamp Rat.

This is about the proven performance being achieved with this particular steel . . . It's always about performance!

Let's Drink!

Jerry

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Jerry Busse said:
Yowza!!!

Voodoo and his Swamp Rat Custom Shop team are about to release a magnificent SR-3V cowboy knife.

That's why the subject of high-performance CPM-3V came up.

Voodoo is looking for CPM-3V high-performance claims that come close to those already achieved by Swamp Rat.

This is about the proven performance being achieved with this particular steel . . . It's always about performance!

Let's Drink!

Jerry

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These look Great!! I want the no choil ❤️🙏👑✝️
 
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