Who Would Be Interested In Doing A Collaboration Classic Hunter With Me??

I think I'd wait on shaping the liners and handles until the tang is tapered. They won't fit otherwise!

Dave
 
Dave
Roger is going to do the profiling only right now.
and it (the profile of the handle material) will be relived so the taper won't bother that part ...
I need to put the holes in the tang and map them on the DRO
before tapering,,
then in the handle parts after tapering because we don't know the taper deg's..
 
Dan, the skeleton cutout on the jade is 3" X 1/2", plenty of room for your fitting. You have pin slots instead of holes, which should give you more play room,too.The slots are easier to do,and safer,too. If any thing working with jade is easy!I grew a great respect for a certain cohort of ours that made that great jade handle knife. The NEXT time I make a suggestion on using stone, it is going to be something easier to work! The jade buck has has been passed to poor ol' Roger. My ears are burning!
 
Thanks John
if all going the way I think planed
the center cutout will be filled with glass or JB or what ever
Roger uses
this is so it can be drilled and centered at will and
making a base to tighten things down on so not to add
undue pressure to the Jade at the same time, no voids will be left in inside
the outside alignment pins won't be necessary after it's finished..
if we're all on the same page,
those are for Roger to use for placement of the jade with the ivory for his job profiling .

"pin slots instead of holes":eek:
if they are slots and allow movement on the pins that
Roger wants to use for his job he may have some problems he won't want..
if so I have a simple fix for that. :)
 
No problem, Dan. The slots run up and down direction, so all that has to be done is put the pins at the end of the slots. I did not bevel the cutout edges; I didn't feel that was necessary,because the void will be filled,like you said.
 
:D I'd like to be there while Roger works on it :D

Roger don't drop it..don't drop it Roger .. Roger don't dr,,p,,,,
it ,,,ROGER,,, :D :D :D
 
Originally posted by Dan Gray
:D I'd like to be there while Roger works on it :D

Roger don't drop it..don't drop it Roger .. Roger don't dr,,p,,,,
it ,,,ROGER,,, :D :D :D
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Dan had his onery pills today!
 
:) Hi All

You don't know me - I'm new to knife making. (Student of Bruce Bump) I have a couple of suggestions for the stone work. There are several suppliers that supply reconstitured stone for knives. I've enlayed turuoise into guards and used it as spacers. Since it is turquoise in silicone it drills easily and yet, has the same hardness of untreated natural turquoise.

There are several types of stone materials available, including lapis, which would look great (and rich) with the blue ivory scales.
I would offer any help one might need in the stone work. I have been a silversmith for about thirty years.

I have also authored scores of articles in hunting journals. If anyone needs assistance in writing articles, I would be glad to assist.

Harry
 
JADE UPDATE:

I finally found out I can indeed grind the jade here. I was not able to grind it before because all my belts did was glaze it. John had included the scap pieces of jade when he sent me the liners and I have been experimenting on those scraps. I contacted a long distance lapidary and he explained to me that the jade will not cut if not kept wet at all time. I tried and tried to figure out a way to keep my belt in water. In the mean time I was trying to find a local lapiday that could profile these liners. Today I found out there are none here. This afternoon I decided to email Sean about my situation and either send the liners to him or back to John to have profiled. I would make a template and send that along too. WELL, as a last final attempt I tilted my Coote back and soaked a rag in water. With the Coote loaded with a 220 grit ceramic belt and running at a rather slow to medium speed I simply squeezed the rag over the belt to wet it. The jade does not glaze at all. It cuts and it cuts well. The belt tends to remain wet for a long time and the jade remains cool. I tried it on my horizontal edge grinder and works too but the belt does not hold the water for long. I will use the edge grinder for the finish grinding. To initially wet the belts I'll simply let them soak in a bucket of water before loading onto the grinder. A soaked rag or sponge will be used to suppliment the belts as needed.

I will make a master template and use it as a reference when grinding the liners.

I hope to have the liners and ivory ready to send to Dan next week for tang drilling. He can then send Nick's and Michael's blank to Dave for grinding.

RL
 
When I worked the jade for that dearly missed (;)) jade fighter, I used silicon carbide belts on my main grinder. It was slow going but easier than i thought. I did not have the jade wet at all times, but i did dunk it in water very often. Good to sse you have another method for shaping the jade. The only time I kept the jade flooded or submerged was when I was using a diamond coring bit to drill the hole for the stick tang.

If you need any help, let me know. Email me or give me a call (269 838 1448) but it soundls like you have it under control. Fun stuff aint it? ;) :D ;)
 
The first thing I noticed about the jade was when diamond cutting,it stops cutting when the piece starts to get dry. Even at high speeds, you gotta add water, and keep it wet while working. Speaking of jade,I think I will have some white jade coming in about two weeks. OK,go ahead,stone me to death. I deserve it! I also want to add, Way to go,Roger! If anyone can look an adverse material in the eye,Roger can!
 
John, keep that stone stuff coming. You may end up as the crowning point of this great hunter. It is you and the idea YOU alone came up with that makes this knife unique from others. Jade has been used but as liners - that is different.

I feel very comfortable now about profiling and dove tailing the jade. It is a relief in fact to be able to shift my concern to the proper grinding of the ivory.

RL
 
Thanks,Roger! Say, I like the way you work the jade, also. Inovation is the solution, as Roger has shown us many times before. Like that cave bear fang handled knife. I would be scared to touch something as exotic as that. Ol' Roger just took it in stride. What a guy!
 
I found Cave Bear to be chaulky within the interior. The tooth has VERY hard enamel though. Beneith that it is chaulky and has little resistance to shock and its natural surface cracks enhance its fragility after grinding away the surface enamel. The hard surface is thick enough to allow some grinding to shape but not thick enough to grind to a thin handle. Cave bear tooth should have the knife designed around it instead of the handle fasioned for the knife.

RL
 
I would like to ask one of use to properly respond to Harry's kind offer. He is a silver smith and student of Bruce. If he can lend himself to writing that should be directed to our writer (who is that after all these months?, is it Michael? or Pendentive?). Anyhow, someone please check with Bruce about this silver smith so kind as to lend himself to us.

RL.
 
Originally posted by rlinger
I would like to ask one of use to properly respond to Harry's kind offer. He is a silver smith and student of Bruce. If he can lend himself to writing that should be directed to our writer (who is that after all these months?, is it Michael? or Pendentive?). Anyhow, someone please check with Bruce about this silver smith so kind as to lend himself to us.

RL.
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If Harry has influences with hunting journals and can promote
this blade or forum
it would be very beneficial to bend the rules on this one and add him
some how , (I say bend the rules (limited guys on this project.)

I for one Thank him for the offer of help
and if he can't help on this
project, I hope the offer is open on other projects, I'm sure
he'd be more than welcome in, I know I would,

What do you other guys think?,
Harry Thank you. is there anything in the articles in hunting
journals and others you can help with, we still need to sell this knife and
a heads up to all that may be interesting in it would help in the intended outcome I think..:) I hope I'm not out of place here...
 
Harry, welcome to the Dalton gang! Harry,thanks for the offers,and I look forward to hearing from you. You must be a very talented person,and ol'Bruce must hold you in high esteem. Dan has a good point. Silversmith,too,huh? And working with Bruce. I can see that coming together really well.
 
I was originally intended for the writing, but if Harry can get plenty of coverage out of it, I say go with him.
 
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